STUBS ROCK HERE

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STUBS ROCK HERE by brookeboard on Threadless
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ginetteginette
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and yet you still went ahead and kept working on this even though you knew there was already a design for sale here with the exact same concept (face it, you just changed the subject).
i just find it odd that when someone knows it's been done (and printed), instead of moving onto a better idea, you kept going. seems like a waste of time to me :.

EZFL
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maybe it should be discussed again?

ginetteginette
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^burnz.
if you need extra attention write a blog.

aled
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It's patently a rip-off of an existing printed design. If you were told about 'Ticket To Ride' and still carried on with this one, you've wasted your time in my opinion.

leighta

YESSSS!

ginetteginette
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burnz as in hector telling you twice to stop spamming your links on people's designs and you keep doing it. that's excepted in the critique section only and even there it's annoying as hell.

aled
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Yeah... that quote by Picasso, you mean? That's called irony. But I'm not completely surprised that it's lost on you

jmeaspls
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lol @ drama in a submission blog

this design fails:(

FRICKINAWESOME
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I actually like the idea of a guitar made up of tickets more than a plane, but yeah, it's obviously not gonna get printed here so at best you should have just packed this up and submitted it to one of the zillion other shirt sites on the web that copy off of threadless styles every day of the week. and you didn't even give us a close-up of all the "hard work" you might have put into the fake tickets? Lame on all accounts, although i'm not gonna give you a zero but a 1 since this isn't a direct copy off olly's piece, just something you should know better especially after you were warned about it. Good luck to you.

Ivantobealone
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Choose to defuse!!

aled
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You mean like how Vanilla Ice 'got inspiration' from Queen?

Ice, Ice, Baby!

bcrider

Point being, sampling someone else's music is generally done by request, not by theft.

sonmi
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^ lol @ default insult

aled
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Haha, yeah - you're right in so much as this is just a t-shirt, but people make a living by selling their artwork, and this is about the broader principle of intellectual property. I realise that probably means nothing to you.

I understand you need to stick up for your friend and everything, but you're wrong. Anyway - this blew over yesterday? No need to get emo.

bcrider

fatheed, you're correct; the principle of intellectual property escapes some because it involves the concept of INTELLECT. :)

NomadSlim
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  1. I really don't think this should have been submitted here under the circumstances that Olly's print calls Threadless home.

  2. That said, I also think it is unfair to call this person a thief. She made a design using ticket stubs. Sure it is similar, but it isn't an airplane. Ticketstubs are a medium. Anyone can draw anything they want with them. Also, I'm not sure if this has been resolved, but people have similar concepts all the time, so maybe she didn't see "ticket to ride" first. But, once she did find out about it, it probably would have been a good idea to move on.
aled
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I agree!

gumbolimbo
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lol @ row + 1

sonmi
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ps. brookeboard, i dont think you should be apologizing to olly. If i had submissions on this site, and someone was inspired by a piece of mine, and submitted something as well put together as you've done with your piece, i'd be flattered.

so just because you would react a certain way to something, means it's okay?

and you're implying that brooke saw olly's sub first then made her design, which she has denied.

i think you're just hurting brooke's cause. she has apologized, and it has been accepted. so... that's that.

i think if you do more than a little "browsing", you'd see that threadless really does have a good community, and respects its artists. that's why this became as big an ordeal as it did.

sonmi
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jennifer, the problem with getting "inspiration" from an idea, as you call it, is that you're taking for granted that the original artist came up with the idea first. it didn't exist beforehand. some way or another olly found real inspiration for this design, and construed, on his own, the best way to execute it. that takes time to do.

brooke has said numerous times that she came up with the idea on her own, and i can't really do anything else but take her word for it. so the fact that you keep saying she DID steal olly's idea (and yes - it can be called stealing, because it's the same idea. it's just applied to another subject.), seems insulting to her.

this is nothing against brooke now. it's against the idea that artists should be flattered if their intellectual property's been stolen.

sonmi
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the problem with the above comment is that ginette never said anything bad about the art itself. she didn't make it a personal attack... you guys did.

for the record, i think this design is done well, the colors are well balanced, and i commend brooke for taking this all a lot more maturely than some others here.

ginetteginette
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it's cool sonmi, scotties123 only seems to exist to talk shit, the only time i ever see that dude is when he's bitching about my mad drawin' skillz.

and brooke, you probs didn't see yet but i left you a mega long incoherent message in your blog. hope that makes all this a bit softer and that you keep subbing stuff.

MALES

FUCK! THIS SHIT SUCKS!

ivejustquitsmoking
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no way, you got this far, others get dropped after 24 hours.. it's a sort of achievement.. cheers..

Torakamikaze
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jennifer appears to be continuously missing the point

jpiatt
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You are all ridiculous, you know that right?...

It's a fucking tshirt design. Yeah, Moss did something exactly like this and it got printed here. So what? No need to act like assholes.

mezo
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Those are all parodies of really white folk music...

igo2cairo
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Wow. This is all pretty crazy! I feel like I've entered a war-zone. ducks to avoid flying shrapnel

Taken out of context this is a cool design and really well executed. But everything has a context and this is just way too similar to "Ticket To Ride" which I bought. It's a shame you put all this work into it only to get this kind of reaction. But seriously, you should have known better, especially after being warned!

Anyway, you've apologized and seem like a reasonable person, so I think that's that. Hopefully you will just take this as a learning experience and keep subbing. If I were in your position I wouldn't even check back on this anymore and wouldn't respond to the comments. Just look towards your next design.

aled
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We're all friends here :D

Group hug.

eskimokiss
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you're all being too harsh.
sure it's been done better by olly, and sure she went ahead and finished it after being told about olly's piece. But as many have mentioned, the concept is stronger on this design.

aled
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I wasn't being harsh at all. Pascal - Not sure what you mean by saying this concept is stronger, seeing as the concept is the same. Maybe you're mistaking concept for content?

If I made a football out out football game stubs, would that be a different concept?

I know what you mean - a guitar shape probably has broader appeal, but for me, in terms of both content and execution, Olly's wins. Flawless victory. It's one of my favourite tees!

igo2cairo
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But when something is already printed and everyone loves it, then it would be completely redundant to print another concept and design so similar on the same site, no matter how well executed.

Also, to use elements of someone's concept and do it in your own style is one thing, and to ape someone's style and apply it to your own concept is another. Both are frowned upon but sometimes accepted if enough originality is present. But she used the exact same concept as well as the same style! I don't think simply changing the shape of the design is enough. That's why it crossed the line.

ginetteginette
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nothing takes it out of the running. just start work on your next design and movvveee on!

just because people like to discuss this design doesn't mean anyone hates you, nor is anyone trying to make you leave. let it roll off your back, learn from it if you feel like there's anything worth learning and tackle your next idea.

igo2cairo
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Brookboard, I apologize, because my intention certainly isn't to make you leave. As gg said I just got caught up in the discussion. I don't mean to come off as harsh and judging, that's not what I'm about.

igo2cairo
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Haha, nice choice Tonteau. OK, I should have read through the previous comments more carefully. I was just re-hashing what's already been said which must be really tiresome at this point. What's funny is that I actually dig this design and under different circumstances would have given it a 5$.

Anyway, we all have slips in judgement. I was put through the wringer over a past sub actually, if it makes you feel any better -

Union Bunny

I was quite defensive about it at the time but realized my critics might have had a point. It was a very unpleasant experience and you had it about 100 times worse so I feel badly for you.

But look on the bright side. If you sub another design it will already have some built-in interest and people will be watching it closely. Normally it's quite difficult to get noticed on this site, so use that interest to your advantage and turn things around by creating a design that blows everyone away.

mezo
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Ginette is a talented artist with fresh ideas and interesting executions that are a little offbeat from the norm. She is also not unpleasant- she is honest. Better to get a clear cut honest crit than a vague and rude "your work is terrible" comment, no?

ginetteginette
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lulz @ everyone picking on me even though fatheed had some harsher words. i don't have a shield so i guess i don't know what i'm talking about! hit me!

jmeaspls
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I like how this has escalated into a level 5 hurricane

watch out, texas!

sonmi
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i like how almost everyone is assuming everyone was being super harsh and angry in this blog. rationalizing things doesn't not translate well on the internet, i guess.

peace y'all

jmeaspls
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ginetteginette on Oct 19 '08
nothing takes it out of the running. just start work on your next design and movvveee on!

just because people like to discuss this design doesn't mean anyone hates you, nor is anyone trying to make you leave. let it roll off your back, learn from it if you feel like there's anything worth learning and tackle your next idea.


even if she may have come off rude or something before, this comment is one you should take heed of, brooke! It's pretty much the truth.


and uh, lol @ this whole situation again.

Ivantobealone
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Not a bad score after all!!

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