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But if you take the advice above, you can't put the coffin at the end, it'd have to be at the beginning. They take the flag off of the coffin before they fold it, and give it to the bereaved. (I'm sure you know that, but just in case...)
the flag is actually taken off the coffin, folded and presented to the deceased family. therefore the coffin would be at the beginning of the sequence.
They present the flag to the family, I'm sure of it. It becomes the property of the family.
thank you for the positive responses thus far.
do you know fokr?: technically, it is for a client. The client's The Used.
And if you'd change it, I'd suggest getting rid of the soldiers - just because there are mixed feelings about the army, especially now - and maybe adding the fallen soldier's family?
Regardless, I like your take on it.
excelent design. very different then the stuff that is submitted and sold on this web site. It has much more of a deeper meaning then most of the designs on here. i would love to see this printed. even if it doesnt win. make some changes and submit it into the ongoing comp.
5 and buy
the idea might be stronger with a coffin at the beginning, but honestly, just looking at it... the design itself is strongest as-is.
also agree with thickblueink, calling the ceremony "boring" is pretty disrespectful, and i'm someone who thinks nationalism isn't a good thing.
I think some viewers missed the designer's point...it was not "lamo patriotism," but social commentary as in "the used." Duh. I give it a five for not showing a goat butthole, but something that matters.
Dude this is a class job. I really like it, and wouldn't change it at. As usual, a fiver and buy from me.
^^^ hahahha that's my mother-in-law logged in on my account on her home computer, I didn't know she used words like goat butthole. Thanks Beth.
hey, i like the concept behind this one, it definitly stands out from all the violent murders and backstabbing girlfriend designs submitted for the "the Used" contest.
What a powerful design
The suggestions about substituting a coffin for
the soldiers doesn't work for me. Having people
in the design is what brings out the love aspect
of the theme, " In Love and Death ".
I like the idea of adding the family of the dead
soldier, but not by removing the soldiers in the
present design. If there was enough space to show
the soldiers handing the flag to the dead soldier's
family, then your design would get a 6 from me.
Right now it's a 5 and $ Buy $
I say don't use a coffin. The soldiers are great, just face them in. 5
to Kyle Jay:
Based on the designer's comments, he/she chose the American
flag just because it's the most recognizable in the West.
He/she said you could replace it with any flag. Since you're
Canadian you could imagine the design having a Canadian
Though, I don't know if any other countries follow the same
flag folding ceremony America follows for burying its soldiers.
Maybe some do.
this is niether pro-war or anti-war, it's a statement about war, an obvious statement - people die.
as far as I'm concerned, they should give the same ceremony to every dead Iraqi as well but that doesn't solve anything.
1,806 US soldiers as of today. The British military has reported 92 deaths, Italy 25, Ukraine 18, Poland 17, Bulgaria 13, Spain 11, Slovakia 2, Estonia Thailand & the Netherlands 2 each, and Denmark, El Salvador, Hungary, Kazakhstan & Latvia 1 death each. Since May 1, 2003, when President Bush declared that major combat operations in Iraq had ended, 1,667 U.S. military members have died. Iraqi's? Studies say 98,000 while allied government funded groups say 24,000.
thanks for the comments thus far
Thank you, Robsoul, for the excellent design.
As stated, the soldiers lend the 'love' aspect. As a vet, the only issue I have is your attempt to illustrate 'ceremony' with flag-folding instructions. The results is trivializing the ceremony. Having attended more than my share of military funerals-to include Arlington- I think the monchromatic soldiers soluting with the color flag in their arms is a powerful statement on it's own. Remove the instructions. Good try!
And Robsol...how many Iraqis were killed under the rule of Sadaam? Since the war began, how many Iraqis have dies at the hands of terrorists supporting a dogmatic, inflexible, brutal, and fanatical substrata of the global society? Food for thought everyone: if you have the heart of a murderer, you will find any excuse to commit it. The reason becomes incidental.
Please read my first comment, because it seems you overlooked it.
"You can't say that civilization(s) don't advance, for in every war they kill you in a new way." — Will Rogers
having the soldiers there, gives the design a strong and powerful look/feeling. Having a family crying, just makes the design sad and depressing.
I like it.
I concur MrDomino!
"the "folding of the flag" ceremony is just boring for anyone under 50"
i'm sure its not so boring for the mourning family, nice one jackass. anyway its a nice idea and something different.
I actually liked this, even without the folding process, as my brother(lieutenant colonel (sp?)) made the presentation to my mom at my dad's funeral.
oh shit, it sounded like I was being rude to iheartkara, I wasn't directing that to you!!!!!