It´s evolution, baby!!!!

LOL, I would have made the religion De-Evolve, but this is good.

maybe one on the back and one on the front? i feel like it's a bit too disconnected to be both on the front. but that's just me.

Yeah... religion should de-evolve... (not the way I feel, but just the way the world is today)

great idea!

I don't like religion

AHAHAHA SO GOOD.

lmfao.

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Really would be better if it said "Evolution of Man" not "Human" as the first phrase is more commonly used.

But don't get me wrong. I really like the shirt idea

yes!

zing! so true.

Wow, very well illustrated point. =)

this is awesome

nice id put the religion one on the back i'd definately buy it

I think you could just do the religion one: the human evolution picture is so well-known that referencing it in picture makes it a little too obvious.

why should religion devolve? I can't remember the last time the Roman Catholic Church supported killing somebody because they thought the earth revolved around the sun. I'm an atheist, but I'm also a realist. religion is a lot better than it was even fifty years ago

Religion on back and it's a winner!

Thanks God it is better now, MooseDinner, but definetely its evolution is MUCH SLOWER than the evolution of the society... much much much much slower...

Always great, bro!

evolution is so done

The evolution is slower than society because generally they base their beliefs on unchanging and constant principles. In a volatile world and culture something that is constant is a relief. I don't know if you actually believe in evolution but if so then I would encourage you to take another look at the evidence for it. If evolution is true then should we not also be discovering thousands of intermediary fossils since it is supposedly a gradual process of adaptation that happended over millions of years? Yet this is not the case. Overall the design is solid but I would try to make the message more subliminal.

this is awesome cause it makes so much sense, i agree with chaymation though change it to "evolution of man" it just sounds better.
making the religion one de-evolve would be a mistake.

Bravo. Bravo.

pretty cool, but I think you should take out "evolution of human"... it would be more subtle and a lot cooler.

PURE BRILLIANCE!!
id love to wear that to school and see what my teachers said, especially religiuos education!
ha!
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It is an interesting concept but it is completly backwards. Religion is evolving much faster than man. especially Christianity, which is interestingly the religion you referenced - The Catholic church has only been around about 2000 years, unless you include its Jewish history, which is still much more recent than the last neanderthal. I completely believe in evolution, but it is obviously over a much longer time than the evolution of religion. Just think about all the different protestant faiths created in the last 500 years. Next time you try to bash religion, come up with something that is actually true.

what if evolution of religion went from the uptight catholics all the way to the swinging-from-chandeliers barefoot pentecostals (is that the correct stereotype?), just an idea...

yes I agree! OH that excites me.

It´s about Catholic Church because it´s the one I know best (mmmh... I guess other religions are even more old-fashioned! Well, anyway let´s talk about Catholic only!), and sadly I don´t agree with you, A Dub.
I agree that Human Evolution is much longer than Religion evolution in terms of years, but SADLY Catholic religion doesn´t accept things accepted by the rest of the society (everyone knows what things).

Maybe "Evolution of Church" instead of "Evolution of Religion"?...

Anyway: NICE DEBATE!!:-)

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Maybe your caption should say, "Evolution of Catholicism." Religion itself is very evolutionary. Buddhism, Christianity, and Judaism have been hanging around for centuries, so there isn't much change there. But Rastafarians, Wiccans, Scientologists, and Mormons are all fairly recent religious sects by comparison. Even within the same lumped up groups, like Protestants, they've all branched off to practice what they feel most comfortable with.

I think a combination of both would be funniest. That's what I expected from the thumbnail; it would be great if the monkey evolved into a human...and into a priest, who shunned evolution. Irony?

who doesnt believe in evolution? crazy people thats who

A-M-A-Z-I-N-G

um eyestozian....you know pretty much every link that was missing in the chain of monkeys to humans has been found now right? Please don't tell me that you dont believe in evolution..please dont say those words. Because not believing in evolution means you believe in the egotism of man being born just the way he is, "perfect" in every way and fully formed. Man is perfect b/c it took millions of years to perfect. btw, the shirt is cute, but you need to find a way to visualize jo6769's idea of wonderful irony. "evolve" this idea and youve got a winner.

Here in Europe sounds so weird the idea of not believing in evolution...

Short and sweet... and so true! $5 (great example of a brainy T - you don't have to be a graphic artist to make one like this, you just have to be clever)

Then I´m clever... THANKS!;-b

VERY GOOD!!!!!!

this is impressive&& simple. if it got printed, i'd buy it in a heartbeat. $5

i think ive seen that before

People evolve faster than religion. not in terms of Darwinian natural selection. it would be senseless to compare the evolution of an idea to a species like humans. in terms of ideas or memes (which, if you are familiar with Richard Dawkins is just as legitimate as gene-based evolution) mainstream religion evolves MUCH slower.

the reason that we don't have a record of every species that has ever existed is that not all species are fossilized. and even if they were, we aren't spending billions of dollars a year digging them up and identifying them. the alleged "missing link" is a weak argument against evolution, and it really only addresses human evolution, because we can SEE first hand evolution of species such as peppered moths or fruit flies and the HIV virus (not a living thing, but if replicates just the same and it does evolve)

I'd tweak the concept of it a bit to make religion conform to society. Have the religious figure go from the robes to trendy, carrying a bible that gets smaller and smaller (as less and less of the teachings become observed)
Protestant churches everywhere sicken me. I'm athiest, but I was raised christian in a church where the junior high room featured 4 big screen tvs, playstations, DDR, basketball hoops and foosball.
Pfff, like anybody even cared about the "message".

P.S. But I love the idea.

i love you for this :]

i like the idea, but i wouldnt wear the shirt. [sorry i cant pick out what id change, or else id help]

That's just dumb! -- Religion has evolved just as humans have evolved - even if your point is that some religions haven't changed in a thousand years, humans haven't changed much in a thousand years either! -duh!

I´m sorry, LauraJerry, but my way of thinking is just oppositte as yours...

It's funny. Definately front and back of shirt material. Can't say I would get it cuz I don't like shirts with writing.

I find the joke funny and think its better if we see that religion has stayed the same rather than the devolving that some people have suggested. Not really the shirt for me but I'll give you the rating.

Brilliant. You are speaking my language by heart. ;)

I like this shirt alot but I agree with the previous posts that you should consider moving to a front/back setup and change the "Evolution of Human" to "Evolution of Man". Still you got my 5$

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http://www.steinhaus-net.de/witze/evolution.jpg

A lot has been said here that I don't want to bother reading, but the idea that a belief system should evolve can only come from someone who doesn't believe in it. All religions claim to be the truth. If "the truth" changed over time then that would prove that it has always been a lie. I'm not Catholic (despite my pseudonym), but it's clear that you just think religion is bad. You should probably just say that instead of proposing a fix for it.

Plus, the next-to-last stage in human evolution looks just like Chuck Norris. Who knew?

really great, I totally agree with the idea!

Clever, but I don't think I would buy it. The simple black and white style is too plain for me.

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I don´t think religion is bad, SuperPope: I just think religion (catholic, in this case) is not adapted to the present times, and it definetely should do it. Not changing God and turning him into a woman, but accepting Homosexuals would be a good start...

Accepting homosexual behavior would go against what has been written in the Bible for thousands of years. You may not agree with that belief, but if Christians change it they would not become "modern". They would quit being Christians and become something else.

cool idea but like people have mentioned the evolution of man isn't neccessary!

Interesting debate, SuperPope! Then you agree with me: there hasn´t been any evolution in Religion.

Um, superpope, i know oodles of devout Christians and nearly all of them are completely cool with homosexuals? you can interpret anti-homosexual comments however you wish, but some Christians have taken the next step and...OMG...questioned their faith and what seems right and/or wrong about it, and adjusted their lives accordingly to new interpretations. Your arguement just lets people fall back on an easy crutch of fearing what is not like them.

too literal...

Well, I think we could make a nuance here, somre relitions, like new age and the like, are very modern and do respond to the necessities of nowadays people, others, like christianism, judaism, islamism, etc.. are static, completely, and that is the very reason why they exist, because they give some people a sense of continuity and tradition. whatever, this ilustration is very clever and if it doesn't end up as a shirt design it should end up somewere else.

just read all the comments people have written you, funny how just a t-shirt can have an effect on people. You may be wrong or right, but its a t-shirt and its cute.

Good statement, but the composition feels a little awkward. something about the two rows feels a little weird at this point.

Fragoso, you're right. I guess I do agree with what your shirt says. It's just that you think it's wrong for religion to remain unchanged, and I say a religion that adjusts the truth to fit with the times is a false religion.

Frickinawesome, I'm "completely cool" with homosexuals, too. They're human beings just like me. They deserve just as much personal respect as anyone else. But I am not "completely cool" with homosexual behavior any more than I am with any other behavior that breaks the rules that are clearly outlined in the Bible (murder, lying, stealing, etc.). Just because someone's sin isn't the same as mine doesn't give me license to hate them.

But if a "devout Christian" "questioned their faith and what seems right and/or wrong about it, and adjusted their lives accordingly to new interpretations" then they are just a garden-variety hypocrite, not a Christian. You can't take what you like from Christianity and leave what you don't. It doesn't work that way. Jesus claimed to be God. The Bible claims to be the perfect word of God. Either the Bible is ALL the word of God or NONE of it is. I don't see why that's so hard to understand. Accept it as the truth or don't. Just don't suggest that there is value in watering it down.

Now that I've read and pondered all the other comments, I personally would like to replace the last priest in the row with a figure of a man jumping up and down on a couch ;) But that is again very personal to me.

Vivalakelsi, I think the foosball and Playstations were there not because nobody cares about the message - they were there because the Church is having serious problems recruting, and they are trying to seduce youths with awesomeness and coolness. Then, when they are seduced, they WILL do anything to make them care about the message - how else is it going to be spread? I agree with other comments saying that the Church - especially the Catholic - is really obstinate in trying to stick with age-old ideas that simply don't work in modern society. Why else would they have so much trouble recruiting?

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no religion is static. Jesus did not intend to create Christianity. any person who believes that religion hasn't or shouldn't change is a fool. "either the bible is all the word of god or none of it is" Do you not realize that the bible has been written, changed and translated by imperfect humans? if you are a Christian and not a hypocrite, shouldn't you be killing heathens and gays? maybe you are, I don't know.

I don´t agree with you on that, SuperPope: I think religion is followed and made for people, so it shoud care about people FIRST. If it doesn´t move from the ideas written in a book 2000 years ago, then it is being obviously wrong. Being static and strictly firm with your thoughts when you are (or could be, depends on the person) wrong, is not something to be proud of.

Nice, a very controversial sub.
I thought I'de my thoughts and say make the religion evolve into war. So the last pope has an RPG on his shoulder. As I am sure most people, from any religion will agree that religion is the cause of most modern day wars.

Hehe!! Interesting point of view, eky! Very interesting!

Hey SuperPope, do you wear polyester?

Eky, Stalin was an atheist. Hitler based his philosophy on the writings of Nietze, who was an atheist. The two of them have caused the deaths of more people than all Christians, Jews, and Muslims combined. Stalin alone killed over 5 million of his own people in the name of atheism. And it should be mentioned that when a Christian kills they are going against their own beliefs. When an atheist kills he is living out his philisophy in a perfect way. After all, if there is no God, then survival of the fittest is the only rule.

Fragoso, the truth is the truth no matter how much time passes. An old idea isn't wrong just because it is old. If an idea is ever wrong it was always wrong. You can argue with me about this if you want, but you might as well argue that 1 + 1 = 437.

If a religion needs to change, then the religion should simply be thrown away. An incorrect belief is a worthless belief.

Fun debate! Too bad this is a comment field for a T-shirt design and not a real forum.

LOVE IT.

nice idea, but I think it only appeals to atheists or agnostists.

I'd wear it

nice idea, but I think it only appeals to atheists or agnostists.

I'd wear it

I agree with that one realist above, religion did get better. Religionis one of those things that keep people separated from the animals. If we didn't have a belief in god, people would just be killing others for no reason (I know, people do that anyway, I just mean way way way way way way way way way way way more than usual). Anywho, clever shirt, But I would be afraid to wear it even though it kinda makes sense, but, others might take offense.

No way, fuck-a-doodle-doo!! Religion is not the reason why humans don´t kill all the time! WTF?!? (sometimes it´s the reason why they do it!) Religion is good if it makes you be a good person, but you can perfectly be a good person not believing in God, of course!! And I think that Religion is not good if it gives you prejudices and makes you get away from other people who doesn´t think like you. In resume: religion can be good or bad, but the most important thing is the person, his feelings and his thoughts.

Great idea!!! 5$

Yes, fun debate SuperPope! (created by a TShirt! Bizarre!). I can understand your opinion but I don´t agree: ideas are created in a precise moment, and they are influenced by a precise time in history. But human evolves, so ideas must evolve with him, keep the essence but change details: thanks to this we are not in the Prehistory. Is good to have ideas and defend them, but is not good to keep them against everything, even if you are wrong: ideas must adapt to the times.

Reply to someone further up the thread. Jesus is NOT God. He never claimed to be God. He only ever claimed to be the Son of God. Not that I care anyway. However, Fragoso, for what it's worth, I'd get rid of the Evolution of Human part, and leave just the Evolution of Religion (as I think someone further up suggested). If it just had the bottom part, the message is still apparent (at least to us smarty-pants) and it would automatically become something I would buy for myself, and most of my friends.

Great Kitten Wrangler! Good idea! Thanks for the comment (such an interesting debate!)

Kitten Wrangler I would suggest that you dig into the Bible to find out what Jesus truly said about himself.

John 10:30 "I and the Father are one."

John 14:11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.

Mark 14:61b-62 [61b] Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?" [62] "I am," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

John 14:6-9 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me. If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him." Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us." Jesus said to him, "Have I been so long with you, and yet you have not come to know Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, 'Show us the Father'?"

Jesus Christ was Immanuel: God with us. He came down to earth to reveal Himself to the world and to serve as the perfect sacrifice. God is a triune God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
I say all of this not to say that I am any better than you but in hopes that you might give the person of Jesus Christ a legitimate examination instead of passing Christianity by because of the actions of Christians. Christians fail but we are saved not by anything we do but through the grace and mercy of God. May you know the same love that I know. ~MW

like it but i wouldn't wear it for fear of offending someone.

I like the shirt and I would wear it specifically to offend people. And just as a reply to SuperPope, do you even know what atheism is? Atheism is the lack of a belief in a theist God. A theist God is the God commonly worshipped by Abrahamic religions (Islam, Judaism, Christianity). A God who answers prayers and keeps track of your sins, etc. So first of all Stalin did not kill 5Million people in the "name of atheism." That only makes sense if you're contending that Stalin killed people because of their in a theist God, if that's so then I must have missed that day in history class. An atheist does not live out his philosophy in a perfect way by killing people. Atheist philosophy consists of one simple principle: there is no God. Seems like you're saying the only thing that keeps people from wantonly murdering each other is a belief in God. That would be true if it weren't for Muslim fundamentalist suicide bombers, and the conquistadores who slaughtered the Incans, oh and the people a few hundred years ago in Salem who burned people they thought were withces, and the Inquisition, and the Crusades ..... etc., etc.

maybe you should have the evolution of church go from two adults, one being a priest and have the second man get younger and younger....