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by denlinkbarmann
im really into photography, so i thought i would base a shirt on it...let me know what you think
Evilpinkie
Evilpinkie on Sep 23 '05
Did you take a picture and run it through a photoshop filter?I like the idea but I think the guy should be more detailed. Right now the left arm is kind of a blob and it looks like he only has three fingers on each hand.
Troposquare
Troposquare on Sep 23 '05
I agree with evilpinkie. The camera is kinda weird too. I can only tell that there is a lense, but I don't see the rest of the camera.
SemantiTheft
SemantiTheft on Sep 23 '05
Icky colors... nice design.
Piranha Petting Zoo
   Piranha Petting Zoo on Sep 23 '05
Looks like you snagged a photo off of google and ran it through a filter. Which anyone can do, in less than a minute.



How about some effort and originality?
denlinkbarmann
denlinkbarmann on Sep 23 '05
how about you shut the fuck up u piranha bitch. i took that photo myself asshole
wyndsilver
wyndsilver on Sep 23 '05
Still, it does look photoshop-filtered, which usually means lack of sharpness and detail. If it were vectored (or at least made to look like a vector) it would probably look a lot better. I like the earthy tone of it.
enigma87
enigma87 on Sep 23 '05
oooo temper, temper.

anyway, i love the idea. if the dude was alittle more defined, i'd definitely buy it. $5 for the effort, though. it's a lovely idea.
bugger me
bugger me on Sep 23 '05
looks a hell of a lot like cutout to me
nikitancsu1
nikitancsu1 on Sep 23 '05
This is the HOTTEST shirt... I love it, colors and all, awesome work! I'd buy it...
nikitancsu1
nikitancsu1 on Sep 23 '05
Note: If you're going to criticize please be constructive and respectful about it.

Let's all be nice!!
stuck with pins
   stuck with pins on Sep 24 '05
Cutoutoholic would have been a better title.



<3
d3d
   d3d on Sep 24 '05
i see 6 or 7 colours
denlinkbarmann
denlinkbarmann on Sep 24 '05
i dont understant what cutout is. can somebody fill me in...?
hoorah
hoorah on Sep 24 '05
I don't like the cut off part at the bottom.
Vizion
Vizion on Sep 24 '05
he got pissed..haha



maybe he used auto trace in illustrator, but sure looks like cutout filter.



den, this is cutout: http://www.arraich.com/filters/cutout.htm



as far as design, it doesn't have a "wow" factor which you'll need to compete with a lot of badass artists here. But don't let some of the comments here dicourage you, keep em commin.
*maven
*maven on Sep 24 '05
i like the idea, but it looks too clip arty.
Johnny Love
Johnny Love on Sep 24 '05
how more obvious can it be. he just threw the cutout filter on it!
denlinkbarmann
denlinkbarmann on Sep 24 '05
word thanks
TSquared
TSquared on Sep 24 '05
I love it because I'm a photographer :)
skitterbug
skitterbug on Sep 24 '05
Try more filters next time. mixing. matching. playing around.



just throwing cut out on a photo or drawing is too simple.
Eggie
Eggie on Sep 24 '05
There is definately more colors than 4....or am I miss counting.



I love the idea though. :)
Nessapop
Nessapop on Sep 25 '05
oh oh i know! let me guess:

filter--->artistic---->cutout... ?

am i right?

:P
thewhigparty
thewhigparty on Sep 25 '05
like the idea/colors but could use some smooother edges
Kaleidoscope*swe*
Kaleidoscope*swe* on Sep 25 '05
I my self dont like this shirt, its not very original and it dosnt look that good on black. The picture is also to square like. I could also count more than 4 colours... Well give it some more work and I advise you to calm the fuck down.



note : if you cant take critizism then dont bother sharing your work.



i will give your shirt a 3 because you atleast took your own picture and il give you a 5 for stupidity and aggression.
Jennifer_Marie
Jennifer_Marie on Sep 25 '05
I like it *photo club nerd*

and i echo the above sentiments...
Grr Stegosaurs.
Grr Stegosaurs. on Sep 25 '05
work on the camera.
cheezeebread
cheezeebread on Sep 26 '05
it's not very original or artistic, but it doesn't meant i don't like it. or the basic concept of it, at least. vectors, not filters, please. good for mass production, take that how you will. and dude, chill--not everyone's supposed to like it: think of how boring and pc it'd have to be if we all thought it was the bees knees.
denlinkbarmann
denlinkbarmann on Sep 26 '05
for the record i didnt really care about the negetive comments. they come with every shirt entry
emmi
emmi on Sep 26 '05
...photoshop-cutoutoholic ? zero.
little_hobbit_feet
little_hobbit_feet on Sep 26 '05
That's a lie.

You did care, because you got very upset and beligerant about the negative comment from Pirannah Petting Zoo.

It's a good idea, but I wouldn't pay you $1000 for the effort or outcome and I wouldn't pay $15 to buy the shirt.

Now if you'd taken the photo, hand-sketched a stylized version and put THAT through some photoshop filters, you'd deserve some credit for it.
worshipyourtoaster
worshipyourtoaster on Sep 26 '05
I really like the concept, but I think it needs to be cleaned up a lot.
egizio
egizio on Sep 26 '05
more details
x  mr suave
x mr suave on Sep 26 '05
I really like this, I think I have that camera also, but I don't like the colors, otherwise its awesome
karena@magicjelly
   karena@magicjelly on Sep 26 '05
I can only agree with the above...small view looked quite promising, but up close it does look very computer-generated & would have been a much better design with more human intervention, creativity & without the square edged base. I like the colours & subject matter, just not the execution.



And another thing...this is no place for you if you can't take honest crits with good grace.
robomatique
robomatique on Sep 27 '05
I Love it!



The comment that it is just a photograph thru a photoshop filter is the most uncreative comment I have ever heard!!! The method doesn't count for a design, and as long you think the method is so important that you actually write down a design on it I think it is really sad. If I were youre creative director I would probably fire you for a comment like that, the comment itself means no future as a designer.



IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE DESIGN IS ONE THING, BUT COMMENT ON THE TOOLS USED IS TOTALLY NON ARTISTIC!!! Well, some people still think that art/design and handcraft is the same thing... tooo sad...



But in the end it is your own loss. By ruling out tools to be to "simple" will just narrow down your creative playroom and makes you see your world thru a filter of technology.



Robert
Coraki
Coraki on Sep 27 '05
Greetings.



I rather like the concept. I'm a photo major. :)



If you would like I can give you some simple instructions, for future work when transferring photographs to print and you want more detail. By all means I wasn't saying that this isn't intentional or not. You can always decide whether or not you want to use the info. I can give you.



It's what I use when I want to take a photograph and make it into a silkscreen print without going halftone.



btw. I went to your site and you really like to close-up to things. some have quite interesting angles also. Just keep at it and don't be afraid to try different things.



my e-mail is Catiwhompous@yahoo.com and my name is Erin.

The ball is in your court.
Coraki
Coraki on Sep 27 '05
oops....errr...to get close-up to things....forgive I haven't slept in 36 hours.
karena@magicjelly
   karena@magicjelly on Sep 27 '05
robomatique...actually, the technique is important, as it affects the outcome. I don't have a problem with digital graphics...I work digitally myself...the computer is just a tool, not a substitute for hard work, talent or skill. Work that relies to heavily on filters is always glaringly obvious & often really cheesy...there's no way computer-generated effects can take the place of creative input & what the human eye can discern. And I really think you need a cup of tea & a good lie down...no need to get so hot & bothered over a few comments you don't happen to agree with.
denlinkbarmann
denlinkbarmann on Sep 27 '05
thanks for the input for anybody else that would like to check out my site its

www.denlinkbarmann.cjb.net
evantwyford
evantwyford on Sep 27 '05
yeah pretty crappy dude. try actually designing something.
Brittany05
Brittany05 on Sep 27 '05
I also like the earth-y brown tones but I think that it should have more detail (at least in his hand) and maybe the bottom of the figure shouldn't end so abruptly.
football jerry
football jerry on Sep 27 '05
this blows. it's an insult to photography, illustration and design. hat trick.
robomatique
robomatique on Sep 28 '05
Karena...



I kind of understand what you mean, but I still don't agree with you on any level.



Any creative outcome should be totally separated from the method. If you paint a picture (that you for some strange reason set as higher artform than computer graphics), I don't care if you use a brush of the finest quality or your fingers, or a wooden stick for that matter. The outcome is always the only important, not the method.



I guess that photography is a lesser artform than painting as well? And this has nothing to do with what the artist actually want to use, but just that painting is harder in a craftmanship sort af way? Art is obviously about craftmanship?



If you try out effects and than settles for one that looks cool, I couldn't agree with you more. Then you are not using creativity at all, but just "plying around until it becomes art". But this has nothing to do with the method, only with the artist. And yes, there are bad artists using photoshop and there are bad artists painting... but the levelof the artist is in the creativity, not the chosen media.



I am sorry to be a bit hard on this, but I can't help it. I actually look down on people with the opinion that you have (not as a person, but as an artist). I can't understand how you could call yourself creative (and I am so sorry if you don't) when you rule out designs because of the work process. The only reason I could think of when it would be important is if you make an installation/performance where the work process actually is part of the pice of art. And this is absolutely not the case when it comes to t-shirt design.



Sorry again if this becomes personal sometimes, I can be a bit of a bastard sometimes...



Robert
stevieM
stevieM on Sep 28 '05
Man, how are you ever going to encourage people to make entries on the site of they just get the kind of whooping this shirt has taken.



Personally, if I like a shirt or or design I do not give a damn how they did it. It was commented on earlier that design is not tied down by technique!



I have been considering putting some of my ideas on the site but if this is the kind of reaction I will get then what's the point.



Shouting down a technique IS NOT constructive critisism.



Jeez!
splitplug
splitplug on Sep 28 '05
First of all, telling people to "shut the fuck up" is not going to help with the voting of your lame shirt. It looks like something I did with filters back in Photoshop 5.0.
denlinkbarmann
denlinkbarmann on Sep 28 '05
aww thanks
karena@magicjelly
   karena@magicjelly on Sep 29 '05
Wow...this is one controversial shirt!



Robert...I think you're misunderstanding what I've said. I also value the end product over the process...if I was gonna be a snob about such things I wouldn't work digitally myself, I'd be sticking to oil on canvas...there's still a lot of resistance re. digi art.



The examples you've used (brushes, wooden sticks, etc) are regarding TOOLS not TECHNIQUE, so you're actually inadvertantly agreeing with my statement that "the computer is just a tool". The whole point is digital effects should be a means to achieve something, not an ends in themselves...& people who rely too heavily on digital trickery without personal/creative input are gonna have a hard time creating something interesting or unique.



Getting back to my original comment on this design...I said that the thumbnail looked promising...because it looked to be a posterised photo with well chosen colours, emulating an early 20th century screenprint style...which would have been nice, & a suitable style in keeping with the subject matter. But the outcome has been let down by poor technique. Firstly, the tolerance settings of the filter have not allowed enough detail from the original pic to carry over...it has that angular look that's sacrificied the integrity of the photo...just look at the hands, for example. If this concept had been approached another way...posterising the photo with 4 levels & using as a template to trace vector shapes by hand, adjusting where necessary to create an aesthetically pleasing design, the result would have been much cleaner, easier to read & therefore more successful.
robomatique
robomatique on Sep 30 '05
Thanks Karena!



I tyhink we kind of agree anyway in the end, it might just be misunderstandings (and english not my native language). And I think your last post made me understand what you mean a bit better.



Anyway, thanks for an interesting discussion!



Robert
denlinkbarmann
denlinkbarmann on Oct 01 '05
wow i think thats the most comments ive ever had on one of my entries
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