Smart Nouveau
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Submitted on:
May 20 '10
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3.36 from 1,079 votes
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snort* haha thats clever, but maybe make it just like mucha only add glasses and books. make it with the same watercolor ect. not quite so cartoony? really good tho 4$
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very cute! I agree that it could have a few more art nouveau touches but it's still cute!
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really nice!
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YaaH on May 20 '10 5
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5
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It's not really something I'd like to wear, but nice illo
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aww!! It's so cute!! I would love a shirt of this :D
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Real cool!
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that is awesome! love the coffee at the top of the pic by the way- anybody who is studying that much is gonna need it! 5
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so cute!
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love it! :)
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I love the design, but grey is such an ugly colour for women's t-shirts.
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love it. Would buy. Clever and chic!
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I own three silver color shirts. I love mucha but I don't know how I feel about the colors. Good illo though!
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As a public library employee I would totally love a print of this for my desk! A shirt would also be awesome, of course. :D
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Emmy C can do no wrong!
Emmy for President!!! |
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I seriously want this for a shirt. Seriously.
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I'm torn! It's a great nod to Mucha with the hair and the background, but the woman herself is so skinny and generic. I wish she was more voluptuous! I still love it though, $5.
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in french "art nouveau" really beautiful illustration
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Very nice illustration
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love the design, but the colors are kinda halloween.
5! |
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love the design, but the colors are kinda halloween.
5! |
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oohh I'd love this on a shirt! 5 all the way!
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ibyes on May 20 '10 Great illustration.
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nice design:)
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She reminds me of a Disney princess. Very nice.
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That woman looks like a man or a rip off of Disney characters ..I can't decide. The idea of this design is rather boring too. 1
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EmmyCic on May 20 '10 "That woman looks like a man"
aw honey :( |
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love love
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It's the tea that clinches it. She kind of looks like me, is it egotistical to want this shirt?
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5 and a waaant so bad.
It's like a PERFECT shirt for me. T_T |
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I effing love this!
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Love the concept and the execution! The tea at the top is what really gets me =]
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alexmdc on May 21 '10 very cool illo!
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5 n' buy there, Emmy.
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Seabs on May 21 '10 she is a bit disney! Maybe try putting your designs on the proper photos tee templates rather than the ones threadless provides, gives a better idea of the design on the tee. nice work!
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One day. Thrice the votes of any of the tees submit immediately before or after it.
Congrats on Bestee 2011. |
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gorgeous!
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I love her hair! 5 for sure.
Charmstub - Almost half of my tee collection (around 20) are grey, and I wear them regularly. Oh, and I don't look horrible. Kehlar - Yes, she does look disneyish. Many artists draw their styles from Disney, and most of them are great. Check out Loish, for example. |
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Gorgeous literary ladies are always welcome, but the tea clinches it ;) The grey isn't bad, although I'd be interested to see this on a blue background of a similar tone.
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tracerbullet on May 21 '10 i don't get what this has to do with the little mermaid.
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Is it wrong that I'd like to take her out dancing, and then to a quiet coffee shop for a frank discussion of Emerson? Also, she has your neck, I think. Also, this is a beautiful drawring.
Call me. |
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nice!
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Ignore the haters - this is adorable!
Love Art Nouveau and would wear this in a heart-beat! I think it would be beautiful on purple :) $5 |
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Love the Drawing
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randyotter3000 on May 21 '10 AdderXYU on May 21 '10
One day. Thrice the votes of any of the tees submit immediately before or after it. Congrats on Bestee 2011. |
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EmmyCic on May 21 '10 I did consider posting this to the coffee challenge, but I didn't think my design was coffee oriented *enough* to warrant the special category. There are way better, more coffee-centric designs in the contest already that are just more appropriate.
Plus I like the open interpretation that it could also be tea up there! |
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The orange outline is weird.
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I love it! I actually gasped when I saw it on your livejournal page. This is such a lovely design and includes so many things that make me happy (especially with the perception that it's tea AND coffee).
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The illustration is nice but I wouldn't want to wear it as a shirt.
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It's good you're becoming more active in the community. I hope in the future, you'll try and post a design without advertising on DA or Livejournal. I'd like to see what the community *here* thinks about your work, not the zombies at DA. You obviously have talent. I'd just like to see what happens when the horde isn't involved.
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EmmyCic on May 22 '10 "not the zombies at DA"
First of all, my friends and fans at deviant art are mostly very bright, considerate people and I take offense to them being called zombies. Sometimes they like my work, sometimes my work totally tanks. "You obviously have talent" Which is precisely why I have an audience for which to share my designs with. Do you think I have some sort of cheat for getting views and feedback? No. I put out a *lot* of artwork a week, and it draws in viewers, and I work very hard to market myself. I don't do anything that nobody else couldn't do, so try it sometime for yourself! |
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I like it,... Keep the Artwork coming!
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YESSSS LOVE IT
I would say it should be on a cream colored shirt because it's Muca inspired, but you just did a cream colored shirt, so that would be silly. |
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EmmyCic on May 22 '10 Yeaaah, it woulda been nicer on a warmer colored shirt, but yeah, I wanted it to be different than Toile.
I thought Sand might look nice, but it's a bit too close to skin tone for me. haha |
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The anatomy is a little wonky, but very cute. Watch out about putting the head too far forward on the neck. Long, thin necks are pretty, but this is coming off as more of a mistake than a deliberate style choice.
Still, very cute. |
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It's good. welcome back.
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I actually really like the grey I think it's a really nice contrast and other colours would probably mean the book pages or skin blends in to well to the background colour and doesn't stand out at all.
Also I'm always impressed by just how much work (the good and even the not so much) that you manage to create weekly, especially now I've been stricken with crippling art block. |
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haha thats a lot of fun!!
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I apologize if I've sounded mean spirited. I've seen that you've had too much of that already. I didn't mean to convey that your fanbase is unintelligent or inconsiderate, or that you haven't worked to get where you are. But coming from DA, most of them who would go through the trouble to get here are probably going to vote '5' (hence, my zombies comment, though now I see it wasn't such a good word choice). They love you and will support you however they can. Even those who don't necessarily want this on a shirt. Though you're bringing people here to the site, a lot of them are just signing up to vote for *you*. I understand you can't control that sort of thing(and it's great that you're prompting those same voters to get involved in the community!), but I hope you'll acknowledge, or at least not dismiss, the frustration some of us feel at an outside fanbase coming in and making sure you get a good score (because I can almost guarantee this will have a 4 point score if not more). You ARE talented. I see great things coming from you in the tee community. I just hope you'll learn more about it and teach others about it too through your fanbase. And for the record, I don't have quite the fanbase you do (not even close), but I think I do a good job. ;) Not all of us are jealous, Emmy. We just want to see you become one of us.
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EmmyCic on May 22 '10 "the frustration some of us feel at an outside fanbase coming in and making sure you get a good score"
Like I said, I don't do anything nobody else couldn't do. Any other Threadless artist could get a DA account and a Livejournal and spend 5 years generating interest. Telling me not to bring my fans and friends here would be detrimental for everyone! True, it's not going to be %100 of them signing up and being active members, but if %10 or even %5 take an extra interest in Threadless, it will benefit everyone! It's worth it to outsource interest. I acknowledge that it is frustrating to watch me have success when others do not, but the answer doesn't lie in slowing me down, but rather speeding yourself up. |
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randyotter3000 on May 22 '10 For the record I think you are an arrogant bitch have a nice day
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EmmyCic on May 22 '10 Ah well, you can't win 'em all
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On what grounds would you call her a bitch? Then again, I'm not part of the established Threadless community and I don't know who the resident elitist tough guys are around here. That comment also has nothing to do with the design, and is just plain rude.
Anyway, Emmy, I like the design and illustration! Probably wouldn't wear it, but it looks nice. People are just scared you might get printed AGAIN, god forbid! |
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Your drawing skills are pretty good; but it's not really a strong enough concept for me to want to wear it on a shirt. I'd like to see your style and old school threadless concept mashed together, look through some of the older stuff sold here to see what I'm talking about - "butterflies in the attic" and "spaghetti western" are good examples. I think if you push your concepts more along with your drawing talents you can blow everyone away. Also for me the layout looks more like something you'd see accompanying a magazine article, say, than something you'd wear, if that makes sense. I like art nouveau but I think this layout doesn't work as well on the front of a tee. "Last Days of Summer" is a good example of characters integrated with the tee more, but there are tons others, it's worth perusing the catalog. Phew that was long, but hopefully constructive!
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wow em.. i think anyone who calls you a bitch is purely jealous. after all, it's natural to envy people who have more talent in their little toe than they will ever have in their lifetime.
YOU have a nice day :) |
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randyotter3000 on May 23 '10 yeah im sorry im just jealous that I cant draw flat disney style rips my apologies
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Absolutely beautiful. Granted, the background color could maybe be changed a bit in my opinion as the grey can feel a bit too much in contrast with the brown shades.
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On what grounds would you call her a bitch? Then again, I'm not part of the established Threadless community and I don't know who the resident elitist tough guys are around here. That comment also has nothing to do with the design, and is just plain rude.
Anyway, Emmy, I like the design and illustration! Probably wouldn't wear it, but it looks nice. People are just scared you might get printed AGAIN, god forbid! |
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wow refreshed the page and didn't mean for that to comment twice.
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EmmyCic on May 23 '10 "yeah im sorry im just jealous that I cant draw flat disney style rips my apologies"
Well... if you really would like to comment on each others art styles... yours kinda looks like a preschoolers cartoon? Which I like! It looks like drawings for helping babies count to 3. I really charming, actually! I bet you could kick out something nuts with a pack of crayons |
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Mo, most reasonable people are not upset because she'll print. Most reasonable people are worried that she's only here to print shirts, make money, and all without being a part of the community(i.e. vote for others/comment/get involved/learn/etc.).
Emmy, let me do a complete 180. Asking you not to advertise *is* wrong. You're right that anyone here could do that (and some of us do). The only difference is, most of us know the community or are a part of it already(and we're all still learning too), and we regularly encourage others to get into it as well. Of course it's fine that you bring people here to vote(though I hardly think it's detrimental to us for you *not* to bring them here ;)), but the tee community is a little different than DA or Livejournal. I really hope you'll do more to encourage your fans to become a part of it/understand it. And I can only hope some of them are voting objectively(though goodness knows I'm sure there are those here that don't). **But most of all, I hope you'll do the same thing you did on livejournal and DA: build yourself up and get to know the people passionate about tee design. Get to know some fans/designers. Browse other tee sites. Start voting and commenting on other's shirts. Become one of us! :) No one reasonable wants to slow you down. We just want to know you worked for it *here* too. That you care about tee design and the people who love it, not just printing. And that you also care about educating others about the culture too. tl;dr: DA is a family. Threadless is another(probably smaller) family. Both require maintenance and love to be a part of successfully. I wish you well here at Threadless and hope you'll give us just as much as attention as you do your DA family. ;) Sorry about all the walls of text. I swear this is all I gotta say. ;) |
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Nice work
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5
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You're not going to get anywhere with Aaron don't waste your time.
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EmmyCic on May 23 '10 "Most reasonable people are worried that she's only here to print shirts, make money"
Well I am here to do that. Threadless is first and foremost a business, and a great one, and I love working with it. Threadless may have a thick community, but whether or not people submerse themselves in it is their own business. I don't think it's unreasonable for a person to sub with Threadless and not be as active in the community. I, personally, would like to be active, but asking it of me like it's my obligation is a big turn off. I don't like a community that has expectations that must be met or else people will be offput by you. Just let people acclimate on their own time, jump in and have fun. It shouldn't be their *duty*, it should be their pleasure! "get to know the people passionate about tee design. Get to know some fans/designers." I'd love to do this. Point me in the direction of the ones that don't have a preconceived grievance with me and I'll buddy up ;) haha |
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Emmy you won the biggest prize in the history of Threadless, and never once said a word in the blogs, that's what put us off. We didn't expect you to be best friends with anyone here, but at least one hello world blog or something would have been nice. But you're right it's not your responsibility to be involved here. I personally don't like this design, but I know it will print so I'm just wasting my time even bothering to vote, but I would love to see more designs from you.
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"I don't do anything that nobody else couldn't do, so try it sometime for yourself!"
Indeed. you could just as easily have an internet fanbase at least in part built by your brother being a far more popular internet figure. I don't see why threadless hasn't thought of this before. Surely one of you is tight personal friends with Tay Zonday, or the guys who created Charlie the Unicorn. 4 more days. More votes than anything recent that's finished scoring. |
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EmmyCic on May 23 '10 "I would love to see more designs from you."
And I would love to post more! "you could just as easily have an internet fanbase at least in part built by your brother being a far more popular internet figure" It's true, my brother is a very famous dude, but a nice chunk of that fame came from Potterpals, which I helped build from the ground up and write for. Am I going to apologize for being involved in things besides art, like film and comedy? No way. My brother has never linked to my Deviant art page on his youtube channel before. Most people that watch me on Deviant art don't even know who he is. I'm not really sure what any of you want from me exactly? You want me to be more active in the community, but if that means me sitting here trying to argue why I have a right to be here, that doesn't sound like much fun to me |
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pshh this randyotter person makes me laugh. are you seriously so full of shit that you need to bash on other people? haha good luck in your life, my friend, you will certainly need it.
now quit bashing emmy. she's doing her own thing and enjoying it, and she's not here to impress YOU. people love her for who she is. |
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If you hung out here at all you would realize randy who isn't named Randy isn't bashing anyone he's just being honest and that's just how he is.
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nice $3
PS- Please cut all this crap. |
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he's being brutal. there was no call for calling her a bitch. that's not honest, that's just his opinion. he's intitled to his opinion, but it's not nessacary to be so rude. i'm tired of everyone giving emmy so much shit on here. and she's being nothing but cordial to the entire threadless community, and she doesn't deserve the crap she gets. she's a brilliant artist and a wonderful girl, and being a follower of her livejournal for years, i know what an amazing person she is. and people need to stop being so jealous of her well deserved fanbase.
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rossmat8 on May 23 '10
If you hung out here at all you would realize randy who isn't named Randy isn't bashing anyone he's just being honest and that's just how he is. NO HE IS JELLIS HE IS NOT AS POPULARZ LOLOL GOOD LUCK WITH LIFE U MEAN PERSON More comparison: Buko's controversial Simpsons design has one more day of voting and 100 less votes. |
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sorry if this all sounds so harsh, but it's MY opinion.
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I'm sorry but a good artist wouldn't have to defend herself or have people defend her, either let the art speak for itself and don't let negativity get to you.
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EmmyCic on May 23 '10 basicallyemily thanks so much for being supportive and defending me :) I appreciate it
It's best if we ignore this kinda stuff, though, theres never any end to it and it's just gonna get even more frustrating. So! I propose that we turn our attention to more productive things |
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haha i know.. i could feel it growing into something ugly. i was going to finish here. i've said my piece.
but i just wanted to say, you handle yourself very well, and don't give into the icky comments. keep it up! |
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and rossmat8, i understand where you're coming from
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sweet n sour on May 23 '10 your popularity on the interweb makes me angry you really should be ashamed of your self :P
you got skills girl, keep subbing yo! |
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ha i agree! if i had money i'd buy this shirt lol
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sweet n sour on May 23 '10 your popularity on the interweb makes me angry you really should be ashamed of your self :P
you got skills girl, keep subbing yo! |
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sweet n sour on May 23 '10 whoops
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randyotter3000 on May 23 '10 calling you a bitch was a bit far but I stand by the fact that you come across as arrogant, maybe through your life you have been told you deserve everything with the least ammount of effort and thats what you believe, perhaps thats why you seem to think you deserve to have no critisisms who knows.
With regards to you critisisms on my style I cant say its something that will bother me I dont proclaim to be the best artist and I have a lot of improving to do, I dont act as if my illustrations should have every person sucking my ballsack like what you have come accustomed to. and for the record im shit hot with crayons |
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lol
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jeffreyg on May 23 '10
I'm sorry, I love you guys, but y'all just need to just leave this design alone. She hasn't done anything wrong. This is a page where you should just comment about the design and not about what she did in the past. Some of you are just being straight up ridiculous and rude. Threadless inevitably has the last say in what gets printed and what doesn't, so what's the use? |
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EmmyCic on May 23 '10 "and for the record im shit hot with crayons"
What about chalk? I was doin' Adventure Time fanart in the driveway with chalk yesterday with my nephew. That stuff is so underrated. I wish roads and parking lots just had chalk art in them at all times, how magical would that even be |
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It doesn't matter how great you are with chalk, sooner or later some angry neigbour will come up and say you're vandalizing their neighbourhood (which is your as well) and threaten to call the police on you. Even when you're only using chalk that will wash away when it next rains. *big sigh* I hate drama.
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*yours as well
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i take offense to the neck comment. her neck looks like my neck ;)
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holy shit, looked at your profile pic, laurastead. i take it back!
but still, she needs to get a bit stronger on her anatomy, no matter how cartoony her style is. |
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or maybe it's the pose that's not sitting right with me? I just can't figure it out the longer i stare at this design. something's off.
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laura's neck is fast becoming my favourite neck
also, there's too much commotion in here. Emmy seems like an OK gal, no need for the gratuitous hatred no matter what your opinions on the design are. The only good feedback is constructive feedback, positive or not. |
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;) no worries. i am a freak of nature. ty bren haha.
as i said before, i'd like to see different colors here. i love mucha's art sooo much. and quite contrary to my giraffeness, i'd like to see a more voluptuous gal in this as well. |
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EmmyCic on May 23 '10 Long necks are the tops! So elegant.
"i'd like to see a more voluptuous gal in this as well." I got some curvy ladies tucked away in my DA gallery http://b1nd1.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2lxfgl I'll think about it next time I'm doing up a shirt design! |
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Emmy, I think you could benefit my posting a critique or a WIP blog. People can give you small suggestions and your design will improve a lot I think.
This is an okay design. I would never wear it, but its a feminine design anyway. The orange outline is definitely throwing me off though. I look forward to more subs from you. :) |
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oh she is cute! doris, however, is hilariously awesome :)
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hahaha people jealous to you cos you post one and then win best tee of the year man!!!!!!! after that you're dissapeared......when you show up ......they fire you with a gun!!!! that's a load of bestee of the year that you have to deal with....
but what it think is....JUST GO FOR IT!!! :) |
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I don't know why is there so much controversy in this one, i have a DA account as well and i don't have a third of the comments in any of my submissions (here or there)
I'm personally not loving this one, and not because it is a "disney rip off" (i think its not), is more about the jagged upper lines and her body proportions (the legs mainly) I think the haters are just desperate to get printed at least once or every week. Other than that is a solid 4 from me |
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Any style can be "ish" to something before. Do you realize that by commenting like crazy this thing gets more popular?, lol
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EmmyCic on May 23 '10 "Emmy, I think you could benefit my posting a critique or a WIP blog. People can give you small suggestions and your design will improve a lot I think. "
I posted this up for critique on my LJ in private for my artist peers to nitpick, and they helped me a looot! Please understand that I definitely would not get an honest critique here at Threadless, it would be mostly nasty comments rather than constructive stuff, as the above comments have illustrated :( |
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evan3 on May 23 '10 i dont understand it
which disney character is it? the little mermaid? i probably seen really stupid |
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looks like you will break record on amount of comments.....:)
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I'd rather be voting on your Wizard Town design, oh well...
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The feet seem a little off, Emmy -- but I like the design. It has a quaint old-school disney feel to it.
Ignore the haters, keep on keepin on! |
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Emmy, I told you you should use the Threadless critique system and try without your LJ. Would've been neat! Oh well.
(Also randyotter3000 has no right to call your art a ripoff unless he is actually Don Hertzfeld) |
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I don't feel like the art nouveau and Mucha references are quite there yet, and this probably would have benefited from a few more revisions. In Mucha's work, the figure is an integral element of the design, whereas in this design it feels as though you have a design in the background and a figure in front of it. There are colours and elements of the line used in her hair, for instance, that tie it together to some extent but overall the girl and the background design elements seem like two separate entities and, for the tilt of your cap towards Mucha to be successful, they need to operate as a single, unified element. The colours are unflattering, especially against the particular grey of that shirt, and the shape of the design isn't particularly exciting on a shirt.
For the record, I'm not rating this very highly but I do enjoy your work posted elsewhere. I just don't think this is a very successful shirt design. |
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Emmy, I'm excited to see that you're subbing here again. You said,
"Please understand that I definitely would not get an honest critique here at Threadless, it would be mostly nasty comments rather than constructive stuff, as the above comments have illustrated :(" I think that you'll see that to some degree anywhere you go for whatever reason. But I've seen some great designs turn into incredible designs because of the input from the great designers here on Threadless, and it wouldn't hurt to put up some WIP blogs every once in a while. Also, a good amount of us are being lumped into a big generalization by saying that you're going to get "mostly" nasty comments. I think you could get a lot of good feedback, but that might just be wishful thinking. Aaron Randy Otter is a great artist in my opinion, and he usually has some great ideas. He's just a little brash on the delivery sometimes. Also, say what you want, Laura has a nice neck but Dez's is the only one for me. |
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EmmyCic on May 24 '10 " I think you could get a lot of good feedback, but that might just be wishful thinking"
I'll consider it next time! I get the feeling a lot of people have a negative preconceived notion of me due to the contest, but if you feel that most people here are mature enough to overlook that in the interest of giving me some honest critique, I'll definitely consider it! |
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This is brilliant! I hope it becomes available as a tee!
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I'll consider it next time! I get the feeling a lot of people have a negative preconceived notion of me due to the contest, but if you feel that most people here are mature enough to overlook that in the interest of giving me some honest critique, I'll definitely consider it!
I think most of the people are over the bestees by now. There are a few that aren't, but they should be. It's almost June! |
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I love it !
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EmmyCic on May 23 '10
"Emmy, I think you could benefit my posting a critique or a WIP blog. People can give you small suggestions and your design will improve a lot I think. " I posted this up for critique on my LJ in private for my artist peers to nitpick, and they helped me a looot! Please understand that I definitely would not get an honest critique here at Threadless, it would be mostly nasty comments rather than constructive stuff, as the above comments have illustrated :( Emmy, you have it backwards. Go back and actually read all the comments. Ignore all the "controversial" comments, the personal stuff, the Bestee crap and just read the comments that are actually about your design. You have it completely backwards. The people you think supposedly hate you and the supposedly nasty things they're going to say about your design are the things that are going to help you improve the design. Your private friends on Live Journal cannot give a Threadless design the kind of advice that Threadless voters will give you. I'm sure they were able to help a biiiiit, but they're not at all familiar with what's going to do well here. I don't know them, maybe they can be super-objective and critical, but sometimes it pays to have a bit of distance. You're ignoring your best source of advice. Go back and read your comments from your LJ/DA "zombies." They might like you and be fans and be nice to you but their slavish praise won't help you get printed again if you're submitting substandard crap. Threadless voters have already told you about the problems with her anatomy, her neck, the hideous orange outline (ABSOLUTELY HIDEOUS!) and the Disneyness. You've got unpopular colour choices on an unsuitable shirt colour and you're getting shitty advice on the shirt colour from your "zombie." (Who cares if your last print was on cream? That's just dumb advice.) You've also missed the opportunity to at least have a discussion about the Loves Coffee contest. Maybe you're right not to enter it for it, but it pays to throw some questions around with us. All these flaws could have been found before you submitted the design if you'd put it up for Critique here and instead you've wasted this opportunity to vastly improve your design. Don't worry about getting "mostly nasty comments" on a Critique. You'll get a lot of constructive advice too. Just take a look here. You've got some nasty comments, but you've got some constructive advice too. The difference is, if you get advice here it's too late to do anything about it. Like, this basicallyemily person is very nice to defend your design but she's never even scored a design. Who do you really want helping your designs out? |
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Bramish on May 24 '10 It's not terrible. I'd be surprised if it prints though, even with the high score it will undoubtedly get.
SJ makes some valid points. |
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Seconding what SJ27 said!
I think it also might be a good idea to try doing a shirt with those characters in that other sketchy style that you have, the one you asked about making a comic with. It would even be nice to see a clever little shirt using those Halloween characters of yours. Maybe for next time, you could try thinking about making a design that is not contained in a circle in the center. You could do a really cool one with a big picture splattered over the whole shirt. I'd definitely want to wear something like that with those other characters of yours. |
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outline on May 24 '10 not something i'd wear but good to see you posting again. looking forward to more of your work and seeing you improve and adapt. :)
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quister on May 24 '10 Charming illo, great draftsmanship! A bit too feminine for me but a solid 4 for the art!
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the Sleeping Sky on May 24 '10 nice!
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alvarejo on May 24 '10 nice illo!
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i think y'all should make separate blogs for your bitchin and whinin and just make regular comments on this design.
cute illustration! |
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i mean, nobody is forcing you to like it, but you don't have to be dickheads about it.
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littlem is wise.
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I love the cups. Seriously the flying books are just plain awesome concept and is my favorite part of the design!
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wotto on May 24 '10 Not sure what all the controversy is here but I shall score your design and move along.
btw controversy usually helps a design to print :) |
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* Orange outline is bad, that has to go.
* Shirt colour doesn't match the design. * I'm a bloke. I definitely wouldn't wear this. * Her toes look odd. Also, I've no idea about the hate or anything. This is my unbiased view. |
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i see a LOT OF PEOPLE throwing up opinions and opinions about details of the artwork.
that's NOT A CRITIQUE SECTION in case most of you haven't noticed. emily, they're not being fair with you. your sub is better than at least 80% of the subs usually seen here and i don't remember seeing this kind of thorough scrutiny recently. fact is there is a lot of jealously round here. and as people don't want to admit that they will use subterfuges to hit you. mostly ridiculous things such as the colors (the palette is actually pretty cool), the anatomy (for Christ's sake, you gotta be kidding me! Anatomy inaccuracy???!!!) or that she looks like a man (won't even bother commenting on this one). keep up, girl. all these haters will have to move on one day or another. there's still a lot of people here that totally stand by you. |
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ndstillie on May 24 '10 nice job!
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Haragos on May 24 '10 It's weird to see so many comments about how it is drawn. Honestly, It looks good to be and You'll be receiving a good score from me. Anyways, be glad you get comments! I'd like people to spam my designs lol.
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mezo on May 24 '10 Conceptually, this is great! Stylistically, it needs a good amount of work. You've lost the sexy fluid lines Mucha is known for. The whole composition feels stiff and contrived and possibly too cartoonish (I get Little Mermaid vibe). But the tea cups pouring the frame is a smart choice! 3
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bengineer on May 24 '10 very nice illo! the only thing that bothers me are the orange outlines but that's just a minor detail.
great work! btw: all the bitching here is really annoying and even though i don't like toile very much i want you to know that i'm totally on your side on this one, emily! |
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Ryder Revolution on May 24 '10 well done, definitely reminds me of the little mermaid a bit, but nothin' wrong with that.
the hair i think should've had more detail put into it though, then this design would bump up 2 points for me. ;) |
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I think it's very charming. :) Haters be hatin'.
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I WAS HERE
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HorsefaceDee on May 24 '10 SO WAS I
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I appreciate you as an illustrator, Emmy, but I don't think this is your strongest design ever. It's not something that I would wear personally, but I could maybe see it appealing to a younger pre-teen crowd.
Others have already given good feedback so I won't beat a dead horse, although I would like to re-emphasize the point made about getting critique from your live journal followers. When you post your work on your live journal, you generally don't welcome critique. If you really do want to make improvements on your designs (or even your illustrations), I think making a public statement welcoming constructive critique could be a great move. A lot of professional artists follow your work, and that is a great resource that you are not currently drawing from. And, when people do offer critique, take it professionally. Learning how to accept critique is one of the most difficult steps toward becoming a professional artist. Hope to see more designs from you in the future. :) |
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lol @ bauerpower saying "I won't beat a dead horse" right after a HorsefaceDee comment.
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HorsefaceDee on May 24 '10 poor dead horse...but a great and suiting analogy
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Emmy let me put it this way if Alexmdc produced a subpar design he'd hear about it too, you might have got a little extra due to some lingering bad feelings about Toile, but the fact of the matter is, this design isn't great by Threadless standards, and SJ is right about how the critique section might have helped you. Alright this horse has been beaten enough I'll go now.
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a.d.17 on May 25 '10 cool illo
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the anatomy (for Christ's sake, you gotta be kidding me! Anatomy inaccuracy???!!!)
hey, if you're gonna do a nod to Mucha, you should at least be considering this. but it's no biggie. i think because all of the craziness going on about this design, i've been looking at it too long. looking at it too long = i notice more things. |
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FRICKINAWESOME on May 25 '10 Sigh, this place tires me out sometimes.
Make art, not war, critique the design, not the person. There's people I cannot stand on this site personality wise but I've given their designs 5$'s because the art/concept deserved it. I like the swirlyness of this design, the border is really great, but the clip-art-ish stars kind of clash with the character and the style of the rest of it, not a big fan of the shirt color choice against the colors in the design, but definitely a charming illo. We didn't expect you to be best friends with anyone here, but at least one hello world blog or something would have been nice. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I commented on a blog by Emmy that got a couple hundred comments where she addressed the Threadless community. Don't wait another few weeks to put something else out if you could, just keep producing things on tees that would score highly even without the extra votes and fans coming in and boosting the score. I'm not a fan of lots of outside promotion for Threadless shirts, it should be the main community here that constantly voted for designs , but it's not illegal and in fact encouraged by Threadless, but that is more of a business move on their part, something I don't need to be influenced by which is why I say i'd rather a design get 500 votes from seasoned Threadless voters than 3,000 votes mostly from people who are friends and well-wishers who hit 5 and $ on your design and then move on. But like i said, there's nothing wrong with doing this by Threadless standards. Good luck is what I'm trying to say! |
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oh my goodness. Threadless is a terrorfying place. I don't think i ever want to submit anything ever again :S.
I personally like this style, wouldn't wear it as a shirt but would be happy to see it framed on my wall. |
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i haven't read the comments, but just ignore the haters.. threadless is generally quite a great place and artist learn a lot, so i hope nobody is put off by stuff people say here, they are not representative..
i think everything i could say about the design has been said already.. |
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i just wanna know what's wrong with the anatomy and does every painting/drawing have to be precisely realistic?
looks like this to me and she's pretty real, right? http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/heidiklum.jpg |
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i just wanna know what's wrong with the anatomy and does every painting/drawing have to be precisely realistic?
looks like this to me and she's pretty real, right? http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/heidiklum.jpg |
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I only skimmed what other people said, but this is pretty cool- like your own spin on art nouveau :o) Keep it up, don't let the haters get to you as everyone else said!
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Alicia in wonderland!!!!! hahahaha
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Cute idea, I do wish the outlines and the pouring drinks were a little more subtle, so they weren't so distracting. Nice concept!
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very nice!
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EmmyCic on May 25 '10 FRICKINAWESOME, your username tells no lies :) I can't say how much I appreciate your level-headed honesty!
Littlem, thank you very much! I know my anatomy is not the best in the world (sooo very far from it), but I don' think the anatomy on this would look too bad on teeshirt to be viewed generally from afar. |
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HorsefaceDee on May 25 '10 I think the drawing is cute but I wish you used a different colour palette..it looks muddy to me.. I think if you ever were to re-do this it would be cool to use the tshirt as a canvas more...like have the tea and or her hair a bit more flowing over the shirt..JMHO
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Nice illo but this isn't really my cup of tea.
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Aw this is nice. I like the concept a lot and I like the way you did her toes. LOL, I'm weird that way.
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badbasilisk on May 27 '10 haha - this is really funny to read.
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"Any other Threadless artist could get a DA account and a Livejournal and spend 5 years generating interest."
This. It's very hard to gain a following on DA. You can do it, but it takes an awful lot of effort, and a ridiculous amount of constant art submitting. It's like being a needle in a haystack. You get burried very quickly by the hundreds (or thousands) of other people just like you. It takes a lot to stand out. As for the design, it's not quite what I like to wear, but it's very nicley done character art ^^. It would make a great print for sure. I think it's the tee color. Would look nice on brown for sure. Also I agree that you should try placing the designs on some of the Tless model photographs. It makes for way awesome comps. If you search for Threadless on Flikr you'll find them :). I'm really surprised at the behavior here. I thought Tless has less of this kind of stuff than Woot, but I guess I was wrong. Man. Drama Llama Ding-Dong. Makes me very sad inside. It's like you're damned if you do, damned if you dont (have a following). What is even more sad, is I see people here behaving really badly who I KNOW have followers..in fact they thrive on it. 9_9 -shakes head- BALLOONS! |
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Aw this is nice. I like the concept a lot and I like the way you did her toes. LOL, I'm weird that way.
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Ugh sorry about that I hit the refresh button by accident.
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RicoMambo on May 27 '10 Drawing is ok, much better then at least 80% threadless designers.
Threadless set the rules, you play the game by the rules. Am I love that? Absolutely not, but who d fck am i?????! Good luck and wish You BESTEE once again! |
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RicoMambo on May 27 '10 3
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No one's jealous, people. That comeback holds about as much weight as playing Godwin's Law. I think there's just a lot of concern around these parts because EmmyCic's pre-Threadless fanbase skews the results of voting. A lot.
I don't blame her, but it's something that's worth being concerned about, and it's not being "mean" or "jealous" to point it out. It's a bizarre collision of two worlds. But I also don't hold it against her, either. However, her results are skewed. Frankly, it's easy to get annoyed when someone like TheInfinityLoop has not printed once, or even achieved a score this high. |
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"I'm really surprised at the behavior here. I thought Tless has less of this kind of stuff than Woot, but I guess I was wrong. Man. Man. Drama Llama Ding-Dong."
C'mon Bass, this isn't kindergarten. People should voice their complaints when they have them. It's far preferable to the lala-land of that would replace it otherwise. If much prefer drama, even of the silly variety, to any attempts to quash it for the sake of appearances. |
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I'm personally still jealous that I can't sing like nsync. We all know jealousy is the only reason people dislike things.
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wow
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ndstillie on May 31 '10 nice score!
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Congrats, Emmy! Pick you up 7-ish.
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I'm sorry, but how did this get a 3+?
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It got a 3.36 because 400 to 500 people scored 5 $ I am guessing; roughly the number of non-threadless scorers. She has a gigantic outside community propping her up; which is great for her.
I wonder how many units her BT sold relative to other Threadless prints? Now that would be interesting to know. |
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I liked this design.....problably wear it! Great work!
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Heh, I was browsing through DA when I found your first sub. almost a year ago. I ended up following you on DA then, and I am here now submitting my own designs. I myself am slow to enter online communities. I hope that none of this silliness gets you down. I know that there are a lot of people who think art that has a Disney or anime influence isn't art, or something, but everyone has a genre or style that they enjoy and interests them. I haven't been here for long and while reading through these comments I felt a bit uneasy. I thought this was a community for all styles. I love tee's! I have so many from my local shops, I was so happy to find this place. I guess there always negative people as well as positive. I guess what i'm saying is, don't let the negative nellies get to you and thanks for introducing me to this site!
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love to read this....hahaha
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Just discovered this design; missed out on all the crazy controversy. Anyway, it's too cute. There aren't enough good book designs on Threadless ... wish I could get this.
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