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Rock vs Hip-hop; Love vs Money

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Aug 08 '08
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by ohmystarsNET
Based on the idea of modern playing cards : Rock vs Hip-hop for the guys; Love vs money for the girls.



Big ol' print - special options, puffy ink for the edging or metallic gold!



High res image: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ohmystars/2604795975
Harfangoria
Harfangoria on Aug 08 '08
What is it with these his and hers designs? How the hell do you know who is going to like what better, based on their gender? I'd probably wear the first design, but apparently it's not meant for me, so forget it.
nooneschange
nooneschange on Aug 08 '08
would weare both of them....great idea/design
mezo
   mezo on Aug 08 '08
It's difficult to give o 1 score to 2 totally different designs, so I'm skipping this. But will add- good job making the illustrations retain the classic deck characteristics. Why not put both on one shirt?
Susan S.
Susan S. on Aug 08 '08
Beautiful drawing, good job on making an old idea fresh.



Not crazy about the comment implying "bad" for feminism - design criticism is more to the point than telling other people what they ought to be thinking/feeling.
werewolfgroupie
werewolfgroupie on Aug 08 '08
I'd rather have them both on the same shirt.
MooCowMoo
MooCowMoo on Aug 08 '08
One on back, one on front?
CuteTeezRule
CuteTeezRule on Aug 08 '08
Yeah do front and back placement but some may prefer the female on the front and male on the back and vice versa but they can always wear the tee the wrong way round.
FRICKINAWESOME
   FRICKINAWESOME on Aug 09 '08
moocowmoo's onto something here.
phantomspaz
phantomspaz on Aug 10 '08
I totally agree with the back/front idea. Or have them both printed for both genders. But I really like the concept.
Harfangoria
Harfangoria on Aug 10 '08
I do agree about them looking very successfully like classic playing cards; that adds to the success of the first design, at least. The second design just bugs me a lot because the "war" of "love or money" isn't a concept that has any relevance me, and the artist is saying that it's for me.



Not crazy about the comment implying "bad" for feminism - design criticism is more to the point than telling other people what they ought to be thinking/feeling.



It's a valid design criticism when the shirt I would actually consider wearing has been designated, by the artist, as specifically not applicable to me. And I don't recall telling anyone what to think. As always it's purely an aesthetic issue. Designers who want to make money put their design up, whatever it may be; and potential buyers communicate why or why not they would spend their money on it. That is why we are here. No matter what the details, if I like it or don't, it is about the design, not trying to change people's minds.
pucheechay
pucheechay on Aug 11 '08
like the concept =)
ohmystarsNET
ohmystarsNET on Aug 11 '08
fair point Harfangoria, but as the designer i also made the aesthetic decision that the clubs/spades design would be better for men and the hearts/diamonds design better for girls. if there was a 'unisex' shirt option i'd have gone for it.



i think both designs on one shirt would be overkill!
jegskaltisse
jegskaltisse on Aug 11 '08
I like the "men's" shirt better but I'm female :(



5, though.
Commodore
Commodore on Aug 11 '08
I don't like that hip hop gets to face upright. Rock & roll forever!
ninety
ninety on Aug 11 '08
I also think back-front placement would be best, but nice work on the design!
Arrow08
   Arrow08 on Aug 11 '08
a nice take on the card based designs
corrii
corrii on Aug 12 '08
From an artistic standpoint, I do like the design, but, overriding that, I'm very put off by the gender stereotyping.
juliusthebrave
juliusthebrave on Aug 12 '08
i buy "guy" shirts on here all the time. if you like the guy design, buy the guy design. i think they're awesome and i agree that two on one shirt would be overkill. great idea. it made me smile! 5
12monkeys
12monkeys on Aug 12 '08
i'm going to be another one of those people who says they don't appreciate the assumption that women are more interested in love vs. money than they are in rock and roll vs. hip hop.

...and i don't see how the two comparisons are even at all similar.



that aside, i like the artwork.
infraredflower
infraredflower on Aug 13 '08
awww fsck I want rock vs. hip-hop........
teesharts
teesharts on Aug 13 '08
How about you leave the comment on society out and just stick to the cards? Most people can't really pull off the whole "hidden meaning" thing very well.
Harfangoria
Harfangoria on Aug 13 '08
No see, the thing is, completely on the basis of looking at the designs, there's this feeling of being labeled: "This shirt about bimbos is for you. This one that you like and identify with is not." People like or don't like designs based on their feelings. Art is about emotion, not just... well, you know, not just smoking a pipe and going "hrrrm yes" like in Secrets of Mensa.



From a practical standpoint, too, I think the cards could be made gender-neutral rather easily.



I did change my score to 3. These are very well done. I collect tarot cards, and most of the oldest decks look like playing cards; that's where playing cards came from. And these are totally in line with the classic decks, but with some individual style too.
ohmystarsNET
ohmystarsNET on Aug 13 '08
It certainly wasn't my intention to label anyone. I just felt this was more appropriate than any other option (making two separate subs, putting both on one shirt, putting the man in the hearts&diamonds shirt etc). Like I said, if only there was a unisex option. And girls do buy mens shirts on Threadless and vice versa so there's always choice.



Thanks for the design crit and honest score, anyway :)
Leenie691
Leenie691 on Aug 13 '08
(Insert feminist rant here)



No more his & hers designs, pls.
orangehead
   orangehead on Aug 13 '08
i like the way the cornrows look! really nice.
xshrinkwrap
xshrinkwrap on Aug 13 '08
rock'n'roll should totally be on top.
celery
celery on Aug 14 '08
i like the rock v. hip hop one

it'd have been better to just leave the other out of the picture
Kate.G
Kate.G on Aug 15 '08
Harfangoria is angry :P I say do both for everyone :) I'd get both
Harfangoria
Harfangoria on Aug 16 '08
heh, i'm not as far gone as leenie
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