Women are complex
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1426 days ago
Submitted on:
Jul 01 '08
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2.39 from 1,258 votes
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So very true...
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THIS IS SEXIST!
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A little too sexist for my taste, but quite funny nonetheless. Wouldn't wear but I know several who would, so I voted positive for it. Looks very cleancut and well done. Middle one is my fave.
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FRICKINAWESOME on Jul 01 '08 age-old gender stereotypes.
snore. |
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Hope I didn't insult the ladies...
Made it just for a little laugh. |
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Definitely not insulted. I think it's so very true!
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This is also racist.
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way too sexist... and the coat hanger... !??!!
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Chauvinistic sexist pig. I also don't support smoking. Or pre-marital relations. Or consumption of alcohol. I'm offended on multiple levels.
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5$
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if you think about it, it's actually more insulting to the guys--it's assuming that every guy only wants sex rather than meaningful.
either way, it's dumb. |
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You people have no sense of humor. It's not sexist, its a joke, lighten up a little :)
Nice job. |
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haha I love it!
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I hate this! OMG! PIG! JK. I think it would make for a better shirt if you didn't specify gender roles ya know? Maybe a neutral color. This stereotypes men and women which is wrong to do. Relationships are complex. Go that route, I think it would be better received. If you did 5 five all the way.
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"This stereotypes men and women"..... DUH Yeah! Thats the whole joke. lighten up.
I like the black shirt with both parts of the design on the front. Good work. |
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Shouldn't the ring come before the bed?
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Looking at life/love reduced to pictograms makes me feel kinda sad. But nice job!
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It's funny, but I wouldn't wear it...
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Well the comments here are a bit extreme...
If you don't like the design - it's ok with me. But calling me a pig or a racist is over-reacting. It's a joke - no offense ppl... :) |
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Arrow08 on Jul 02 '08 lol but yea, kinda offensive only if you take it serious. I'd dig seeing you doing this style again with another idea.
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i liked it in crtitque and i like it now $5
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relax bitches its just a fucking joke people are sexist rate it low if you don't like it.
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I thought it was rather clever.
Lighten up and take a joke, peeps. =P |
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Thx for the support...
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Just no.
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i like the idea of the icons telling a story... i just wish it was a different story.
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ha this totally fit into the true stories contest
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Wait, racist? Wah? Sexist? Not really. Cliche gender stereotypes, yeah. But sexism? Not really. I thought it was amusing enough for a little smirk. But... not much more.
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I don't think it's sexist at all. It's how most minds work. There's nothing sexist about the general truth. Buttt of course there are exceptions to every rule.
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Somebody drunk at the boardwalk would probably buy this.
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most women want 3 kids, not 4.
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All stereotypes are based on some level of truth. I'm offended that you people are wrongfully criticizing the designer for being sexist and racists when it's quite clear that the design is meant to be satirical. Quite being so damned PC people.
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5 - BTW
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This made me laugh. And I'm a girl who hates the idea of babies and all that stuff, so I have no idea what everyone is getting worked up for.
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lol...
I'm happy I created a design that is hard to ignore... |
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My only complaint is that I couldn't tell what the ring was until I saw someone's comment about it...
Pretty cliched idea to be brutally honest...but well executed. 4 for the work and visuals. |
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uhhhh...
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Relax people, its meant to be funny.
In my opinion, the bed should be after the ring... Either way... I like it $5 |
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On second thought....
I like. |
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looking good...
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sexist and racist?, i think someone lives in a closet lol
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Pretty funny
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haha! I'm laughing 'cause it's funny. But I guess that's just the sexist/racist in me??
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Funny how people overreact at the slightest things. Oh, that's right, this is the internet where a bunch of self-righteous people believe it's their job to dispose their view of life onto others and ridicule them if they oppose.
I, for one, love this shirt because behind every cliche is a bit of truth. $5! But yeah, ring before bed, people. |
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Ring before bed - my mistake, notice taken...
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Come on folks, in this day how many of you actually waited for a ring to get into bed?
Great design btw. |
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XDDDDDDDDD I really like it!
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yoshi andrian on Jul 04 '08 haha.. so true! 5!
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People act as though they don't laugh at sexist humour.
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bahahah this is aweome
i agree with dtvaughn ppl need to lighten up! |
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I really think everyone is over reacting as well. This is a perfect example of what is wrong with society today. I have seen images even on this website that depict violence, murder, etc which stirred little to no reaction. It's a funny stereotype. We all just need to relax, hang out, be kind, have a laugh together, and enjoy life. I wonder if a women designed the shirt if there would even be this descussion???
Peace and love everybody! |
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haha this is awesome =)) i'd get it hehe
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Wow, people.
Anyway, this is such a cliched concept, but it looks awesome on the shirt. I like the middle example the best, with everything on the front and on black. And yeah, ring (with a nice, big, diamond-shaped stone) before bed, not because of PC-ness, just because it more fits the girly lovey stereotype. |
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The coolness of icons telling the story is nowhere near as funny as the kneejerk reactions on all the pc Lobots out there. It's a joke on the human experience as the mundane folks live it! Lighten up!
Perhaps, though, to prevent future pc flare-ups use a more gender-neutral title: "Relationships are complex", etc. |
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i cant believe you guys are taking this so seriously, give that man a fuckin break
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haha, wow. sexist? you people are nuts. this shirt is awesome. and it's telling the truth.
men are dumb, and women are crazy. lighten up! |
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:D eheheh very very nice!
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3 days left... pls vote!
Or at least leave a furious comment ;) |
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brilliant. 5$
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the coat hanger no matter how intended will be taken hilariously wrong (or right????? ) depending on what the artist intended the hanger to mean.
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like the middle design where they're both together.
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Some of you peeps should be glad the artist included a RING at all! ;-)
I think it's a clever idea that could be expanded to several different life progressions. |
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I don't get it.
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It's clever, but it's a little too busy for me.
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Mildly Insulting, But It Really Is Funny. I'd Wear It Without Doubt.
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its not sexist its just funny. anyone who says different forgot to look at it
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I don't get how it's racist. It's on a black t-shirt and a white one.
I agree the ring needs a little work, maybe a big fat diamond on top instead of a dot. I think you should do a divorcee version too, where after two of the kids, it points to a new man :P and the cycle continues 3 or 4 times. Good idea, nice execution :) |
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Gender stereotypes... I thought this was the 21st century?
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So what, because we reached a new millenium all gender stereotypes disapeared?
Anyway, I agree with the half of the comments, those where they don't seem to be sitting on a cactus. Geez, didn't know you could get this self-righteous because of this kind of design. And I can't see the racist thing at all... I like it, I'd like to see more of these with varying themes.^^ |
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Torakamikaze on Jul 07 '08 I cant believe how much everyone is underreacting. People need to stop not taking things things so seriously. After all, it is a century. Did you know that there are like 80 unwed teenage mothers in the world? That's more than six fold. This shirt insists that babies should be born prematurely, and I dont agree with that statement. Babies should be grown in a lab and safely monitored by lab technicians. I wish people would wake up and eat the roses, cause this is blatant racism. I had to cover my 12 year olds eyes.
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I am lady and I was not insulted. I think it is most definately true. 5$
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paintballjord on Jul 03 '08
sexist and racist?, i think someone lives in a closet lol So you're calling people gay? I almost can't stand to read any more comments. This is outrageous! dynamic on Jul 02 '08 You people have no sense of humor. You have been here less than a month. You have no idea how complex the complexities of our sense of humor are... |
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If we don't overreact about the perpetuation of a gender bias that continues to subjugate women on a global, nay, galaxian scale than who the hell will?
Yeah, it's over done to me, but I like the little icons. Just not the whole man vs. woman cliche. |
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It's a funny shirt, and sadly true in many cases, but not all. I wouldn't wear it myself, but chill out guys it's just a shirt!
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Well, I think gender stereotypes are funny as long as they stay on a shirt to make ppl laugh and don't get to the real world... ;)
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haha. really funny. i like the grey.
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hilarious and i am a woman. like the middle one!
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hahahahaha. i like the middle one!
ps. some people need to lighten up. |
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Torakamikaze on Jul 07 '08
...cause this is blatant racism. I had to cover my 12 year olds eyes. That is racist to say professorE on Jul 07 '08 ...So you're calling people gay? I almost can't stand to read any more comments. This is outrageous! This is double racist to say. acsds1 Inspired by several true stories... Hope you like it :) This is the most racist of ALL!!! I am so offended! |
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lol 20 bucks says you never thought this shirt would get you called a sexist, sorry everyones taken you so seriously XD
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Thing is, there's nothing in the design to suggest this is supposed to be tongue in cheek, or ironic. Every day I have these cliches and stereotypes forced down my throat as "the truth" or "just the way things are", and it's simply not the case. This just seems like another example of the kind of pervasive heteronormative sexism, or anti-feminist backlash that I see every day.
I'm not saying that this is what you're going for - you may have meant this ironically, but it just doesn't look that way. And because it doesn't look that way, I wouldn't wear it. I'd definitely come across as a sexist idiot wearing this shirt. |
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"the coat hanger no matter how intended will be taken hilariously wrong (or right????? ) depending on what the artist intended the hanger to mean."
hahaha |
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13strong
I think you should consider the type of T-shirts that area submitted and sold on this website. Very few if any at all are meant to be taken seriously. Most are parody, some are artsy, but in general, they are all fun. I think the designers on this website are quite familiar with the type of subject matter that Threadless prefers. The fact that it is even posted on this website is an indication that it is meant to be tongue in cheek. |
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I miss coffin here ;)
but like the idea ... but not the fun od colour choice. Good luck ! |
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"The fact that it is even posted on this website is an indication that it is meant to be tongue in cheek."
First of all, I don't think that's true at all. There are a massive number of contributions to Threadless, that vary massively in content and the quality of the artwork. Not everyone that submits is familiar with the style of the stuff that is printed, or the attitudes and views of the people who frequent the site. Second, this could be considered funny either because a) "Oh, it's so TRUE!!!", or b) "Oh, that's so cliched and ironic!!!". The first interpretation is offensive and boring and tedious, the second is more acceptable, but still IMO kinda tedious. Lastly, people are supposed to wear this on the street, out of the context of the lovely, progressive, good-time Threadless community, this would just come across as an offensive retreading of the same sexist stereotypes.] |
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Take these shirts for example:
http://www.threadless.com/submission/21111/Afternoon_Delight http://www.threadless.com/product/259/Stabby_McKnife So it's ok to print T-shirts that depict gay animal sex and that poke fun of the idea of stabbing people with knifes, but it's not okay to comment on gender stereotypes? "First of all, I don't think that's true at all. There are a massive number of contributions to Threadless, that vary massively in content and the quality of the artwork. Not everyone that submits is familiar with the style of the stuff that is printed, or the attitudes and views of the people who frequent the site." You actually bring up a good point. However, although the artwork submitted by artists on this website are varied, Threadless generally chooses the tongue in cheek designs. They definitely have a design preference, and I think the designs submitted to the website are reflecting that more and more. |
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"So it's ok to print T-shirts that depict gay animal sex and that poke fun of the idea of stabbing people with knifes, but it's not okay to comment on gender stereotypes?"
If this is aimed at me, you're twisting what I said. First of all, why would it not be OK to portray gay animal sex? Who is that prejudiced against? Regardless, my main point was that, outside of Threadless, on the street, it wouldn't be clear AT ALL that this was meant ironically - I would just look like a sexist asshole. |
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Ok fair enough, but just one more thing to consider: it would be kind of hard to look like a sexist asshole wearing this T-shirt considering that the shirt stereotypes both genders, in which case you would be offending everybody equally :D
I guess the reason I like the design so much is the fact that it isn't one sided. It may seem that way at first and if it was then I would completely agree with you, but it isn't. It's the fact that it does stereotype both genders that creates the humor. Obviously not all men just want sex and not all women just want romance, love and marriage. I'm guessing our perceptions are different, but this is how I understood the design. |
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Just because it stereotypes both sexes doesn't mean it couldn't be perceived as sexist. There are plenty of idiotic men and women who genuinely believe that men basically just want casual sex and women basically want commitment and marriage and children. That's the other side to misogyny - is that men have to act a certain way as well.
"Obviously not all men just want sex and not all women just want romance, love and marriage." You'd be amazed how many people don't think that's at all obvious. |
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2.39? Damn.
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