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Nov 02 '07
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HA HA HA HA HA! Wait... WHAT?! 4?
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i like the design, great illustration... but pedophilia?
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wtf........
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zipperking on Nov 02 '07 I love the illustration, but I gotta say it's a little disturbing.
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Haha! Oh!
And kayse, I think you're just projecting. |
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if you were going to do a topless child - would suggest a boy
or put a top on the girl but the overall concept it good |
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WEIRD. I think I'd wear it. It almost looks like a really bizarre, perverted band shirt. For Ween or Primus or something. obviously not a print but $4 anyways.
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only thing missing is a boy in bed who "spilled juice" on his sheets.
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great illustration but I can't score it high because of the unwearable factor. Body excretions and little girl nipples.
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i agree with freshview.
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wotto on Nov 02 '07 Great style just clean up the idea. Lovely drawing style.
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fuck all of you prudes. You make me want to vomit.
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prudes make me wanna go toilet....or is that prunes?
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polynothing on Nov 02 '07 disturbing... sorry
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use your talent for something not as disgusting
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hej.. i guess i'm not prude in any way. but if you say smbdy is prude because he finds pedophilia disturbing.... you got some serious problems...
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sonmi on Nov 02 '07 bahah i didn't notice she was peeing at first
i'm not disturbed by this, because i don't really see it as a child? i mean, it'd pretty stylized. girls can be boobless. the character isn't really posed in a sexual way, in any case. i like your style |
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that's kinda... ummm weird.
sorry, sometimes strange things attract me, but I don't want a drawing of a 6 year old girl peeing herself and saying "oops" |
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nice style, humorous
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lol!
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The artwork itself is great, the subject matter, on the other hand, is strange (and not in a good way).
A topless girl peeing her panties, a farting pig and a pooping bird? I just can't imagine wearing this. |
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no one has mentioned the most shocking part... the pig is apparently projectile farting (sharting, if you will) what looks to be two flies out of his anus.
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Dude, once you pair half-naked children and scatological humor, I draw the line.
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I wouldn't buy it, but the pedophelia comments are so off base.
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umm.... a top on the girl please.... but for now... $3
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The basic elements of this design would make a really sweet shirt, but the urine, fart + flies, and bird poop really detract from the designer's ability.
There are many places where a little girl would not wear a top, or any suit at all, and not cause comment, but in the United States, little girls lose that freedom after age 2 or 3. The Threadless community seems to be very international, but I'm not sure a topless little girl could get printed (cf Disney's bowdlerization of the Little Mermaid). I'd like to see this re-worked; the style and colors are lovely. |
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minus the bodily wastes, it's no less risque than the Coppertone Girl.
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"...it's no less risque than the Coppertone Girl."
I don't know about that. This girl is wearing a urine-stained mini g-string that barely covers her little girl parts, which is a far cry from the fairly sanitized, innocent-looking backside of the Coppertone Girl. |
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I've gotta say, if I saw someone wear this shirt, I'd be a little suspicious of them.
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its real cool. LOVE the artwork.. just the idea sucks.
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Subject matter is everything. The design style is cool, but only a creep would walk around in public wearing a shirt involving feces, defacating animals, and sexualized, almost naked little girls.
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Even a creep should have a certain Creep code of ethics.
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This shirt is made even funnier by all the people creeped out by it. I love how it's so cute and wrong at the same time. I don't know if I'd actually wear it in public, mind you, but I think it's fabulous.
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I'd hit it.
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It is cute, in a vulgar, toilet humor sort of way.
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Everyone focuses on the girl, but the bird is pooping and the pig is farting.
ANIMAL SCAT! ZOMG! |
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Yeah, I thought fart jokes and such stopped being funny after grammar school.
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creepy
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the artwork is great but the entire thing is just... *shudders*
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0Jim0 on Nov 03 '07 that just made me feel unclean..... I'm going to rock in the corner...
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i don't like this design at all
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I love a good argument as many people on this site can testify to but I don't want to do that here and give this too much kudos, suffice to say I really, really dislike this.
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i think this ones just meant to annoy people
or possibly win an award for the design with the worse taste ever if that was your mission we salute u and do something wth better taste nxt u've got a good style, use it for something that wont get the FBI or watever lookin at ur hard drive. |
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lolllllll
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I just noticed that the designer, Lavínia Carvalho, is a female. Which makes this even more disgusting and unattractive, for some reason.
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sonmi on Nov 03 '07 geewally, you sure seem dedicated to this submission.
why would being female make this even more disgusting? i see a bigger problem with you coming to that conclusion than the submission itself. |
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It makes it more disgusting because you'd think a woman would have a little more decency and couth. What happened to the Women's Lib advocates screaming about the denegration of respect towards women and the objectification of the female body? The only women I know who enjoy a laugh over scatological humor and bodily functions are drunk slobs in bars who attract nobody. It's very unladylike.
And who cares what you see. |
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Good for you.
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hahahaha at ehrady's comment.
the girl on that one sunscreen brand bottle doesn't have a top on, but the difference is that she's not showing her upper half unlike this girl. |
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farflung on Nov 03 '07 geewally, i'm with sonmi. your outrage says a lot more about you than about this design. it must be tiring going through life being in such a permanent state of indignation.
this is in little danger of being printed, and for the record, i wouldn't wear it if it was. but it shows some style, and gave me a giggle. to lavinia - please sub more ! |
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I have less indigignation than I do suprise about Threadless' submission guidelines about content and subject matter. Okay, this design is fairly innocent (even though crude), but where do you draw the line? Where do you stop? At what point do you say, "This is inappropriate"?
If small things are allowed, who's to say Threadless won't soon be allowing soft-core porn or other shock-value material in submissions? I thought this was supposed to be art, not pulp. |
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that boy has really lovely hair.
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She only has one eyeball. other than that i'd totally do her
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If it's a little girl, then at that age there's no difference between the chest of a girl and that of a boy. I'm guessing she's meant to be extremely young since she's had an accident, so I don't see the problem with her bare chest. If I saw a little girl at the beach like that I wouldn't think twice about it.
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you get a 4 for your style. @ snuffle, you would not see a problem with it but some ppl would "really" enjoy it.
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Ok - so everyone seems to have agreed that this a picture of a little girl having peed herself and artandfear finds that a sexual turn on. NOW do people understand why images like this are a bad fuckin idea.Even if he was joking do you really want to go down that road?
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Lavinia, what a debut.
Chris Morris would be proud of some of the comments witnessed here. Pedophilia? Some people are equating this image with a persons sexual desire of children. Marvelous. |
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Chris Morris lampooned the medias hysteria and treatment of paedophilia. How does this do the same? This image is of a young girl having wet herself looking coy with a finger to her mouth which is a classic sexual pose. Don't get me wrong , this one image isn't going to turn normal people into paedophiles but at the same time it's wrong to normalise images of children in sexual scenarios ( even though I don't think for a minute that was the designers intention ). It's the thin end of the wedge, where do you draw the line and say thats inappropriate. In Japan rape is normalised in cartoons and comics and is a huge cultural problem over there. Anyway so much for saying I wasn't going to join the argument...............................................
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sonmi on Nov 04 '07 And who cares what you see.
lol! a classic diss of a threatened individual. |
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GEEWALLY "Subject matter is everything. The design style is cool, but only a creep would walk around in public wearing a shirt involving feces, defacating animals, and sexualized, almost naked little girls."
i must have missed the part where an extremely pre-pubescent girl pissing herself is "sexualized". if it's sexual to you, aren't you speaking of yourself when you reference the "creeps" that need a code of ethics? |
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Since when did womens lib make ladies more "ladylike"? Gee seems to be confusing "lib" with "ladies dress up to go shopping and never say swears!"
Fuck that shit! The art is brilliant. The kid is not sexy at all. I didn't even notice she didn't have a top on till some pervert brought it up. Way to be terrified of any possibility of sexuality, dudes. |
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@Red -
I'm the first person to mention the lack of top on the girl. So, are you calling me out as the "pervert" from your above comment? |
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Ok let me set this argument straight so everyone can understand whats right and wrong
ahem: RIGHT: a little girl with a top not peeing on herself and not looking aroused by it WRONG: a little girl without a top peeing on herself and looking aroused by it Everyone understand Little girls are cute This design is disturbing and numerous ways and i think the creator should be kicked in the ovaries Thank you |
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oh and Art is NOT JUDGED BY THE SHOCK VALUE i'm sick of people making pictures just to shock people and calling it art
This isn't art it's a bad cartoon thank you again |
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Wow, what's really disturbing are the people in this thread who are sexualizing the design. Judging by the artist's name, she's from Portugal or Brazil. In other parts of the world, people don't freak out at a child (or adult for that matter) without a top on and automatically think "OMG SEX!!!"
lyssie, you've got issues if you think that the little girl looks "aroused" and especially if you think the appropriate response to a drawing of a little girl peeing is wishing physical harm on the artist. |
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My Rant about this Shirt
I think the overall concept of this shirt is excellent. The idea that everyone has "accidents" is a classic theme. I would even suggest that there could be a series made from this original shirt, repeating the theme in other areas. Such ideas could be a spilt wine glass on a white carpet, pen leaking in a shirt pocket, baseball through a window, fingers super glued together, etc. As for the multiple references to the half dressed young girl, I think that for decency sake, children of all ages should have their torsos covered, chest to pubic area. I'm protective (possibly over protective) in that manner as I believe that there are weirdoes out there enjoying the idea that there are people who allow babies and young children to wear as little as clothes as possible when they are out in public. I hate clothes that are being sold for young girls now days that allow so much chest and belly area to be exposed. Dont get me started on child size booty shorts. Im not a prude nor normally do I rant about things. Im an open-minded person who encourages discussions. But when people start calling people other names and taking cheap shots, I get upset. Im disgusted by the above people who are saying things that are border-line illegal and totally inappropriate. Art is supposed to encourage discussion, but some of the comments above have gone too far. I think we all should just step back and take a deep breath. @Red Im sorry about my earlier comment. I was reading the above comments and got upset at how everyone was attaching each other. I overreacted. |
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Tastes Like Grandpa needs to start subbing again so that everyone can get some perspective.
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I think she looks like Ariel & should have some cute bikini-shells for a top.
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maija judgin by your profile pic you don't know shit about art....and probably not culture either
all i'm saying is not only is it disgusting...the only drawing i like is the pig everything else sucks deal with it it's called critiquing don't go crying about it i just don't think this good art |
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oh and if you've never heard sarcasm then maybe you need a kick in the ovaries too
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I never made a mention of or reference to pedophilia. I simply said the rendition of the girl is sexualized.
There's so many ways you could have treated the girl. Did she need to be wearing a tiny little g-string (a very sexualized, adult piece of clothing) and did she need to be, as Spam69 pointed out, "looking coy with a finger to her mouth which is a classic sexual pose"? (In fact, the hair, eyelashes, and eyebrows could have passed for an adult figure; only the undeveloped body suggests a young girl.) Paired with the excrement factor, it's just tasteless. Not Threadless. |
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who says it's a g-string? You can't see the back, so you don't know.
I see nothing sexual about this design, and frankly I'm a little shocked and amused by the people who do. The fuzz over 'nipplegate' comes to mind.. Anyway, I kinda like the idea and pooping birds, but the style of the illustration could be better. So 3 from me. |
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Kaysetoaster: "i like the design, great illustration... but pedophilia?"
Anushka: "Chris Morris would be proud of some of the comments witnessed here." Spam69: "Chris Morris lampooned the medias hysteria and treatment of paedophilia. How does this do the same?" |
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Even if you say it's not a g-string, it's still extremely low-cut, which is probably not what little girls should be running around in.
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i love it!
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You peeps need to chill out a little.
I love the piggy farting, its so well drawn!! Submit a farting pig on its own and I would buy it in a flash!! :D |
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Annushka - Both of us seem to agree that the Chris Morris Brass eye special is a total different kettle of fish to what is on offer here so why do you think he would be proud of the comments here ? I don't want to this to go back and forth (and from what I've seen of you on this site you seem a lovely person ) but I honestly don't see how you've jumped to that assumption.
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tesco on Nov 05 '07 oh lawd is that some cp?
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If this is pedophilia, then so is "Love Is..." However, the content is still disgusting, no matter how nice the style.
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disgusting.
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maija on Nov 04 '07
Tastes Like Grandpa needs to start subbing again so that everyone can get some perspective. word. ethnocentrism abounds |
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Congrats on getting a NSFW submission through the approval process!
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Haha I just spent 10 minutes reading ALL of the comments.
Your all making a big deal out of a shirt, HAHAHA! And your all trying to sound smart [At least it looks like it] Calm down. I see a little 3 year old without a top all the time, little kids are finnee. I do find this shirt a bit disturbing, and thats okay. Incorporate your art into a different design, it's wonderful. Maybe make an apropriate shirt w/ the same little girl, wearing clothes. 'Cause she's adorable. I'm done! :D |
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Oh, and the clouds look the same. Change it up a bit.
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I'm torn--I don't like that the girl is topless, it is a little creepy. I do love the pooping and the farting though, the world needs more poop jokes.
Overall, I like it because the design style is so cutesy while the subject is slightly crude. It does operate based on shock value--which we have to remember is not always a bad thing. |
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the character looks like a child to me...i don't think a topless girl child is T-shirt appropriate...why does the character have to be topless? or a girl?
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If this got printed, I'd leave threadless. 0
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Me, too.
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Weird design.
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I'm a little disturbed by the fact that I find the comments more disgusting than a little girl peeing on herself.
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pretty gross. i still like the illustration a lot though. i just want the pig redrawn on a different shirt sans poot.
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You are all missing the true brilliance her. Flies are shooting out of a pigs ass! AMAZING
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ok... just so u everyone is clear on wat subs are deemed inappropriated [goddamn could be good if i spelled it correctly, oh wait right click] inappropriate there we go...
[lit. word4 word copy paste newest rev] 'Submission Deemed Inappropriate A submission can be declined if it contains material or themes that make us feel a little uneasy. Thats no small feat! Keep in mind that the community starts at 13 ' |
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haha, americans...
there is no sex intentions on this submission here. Put a boy and nobody would say a thing. Stop seing pedophiles everywhere. The comments are sooo out of touch here.I bet the one who made this here just didn´t even think about all this crap you guys talked here.Tipical. |
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Brain you have in your head?
Very good the illustration |
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And i trully think it´s all some "culture shock" because, here in Brazil, where i live and so the creator of that shirt, nobody would think about that t-shirt in a sexual way, really, it´s just a coopertone little girl.Stop the paranoia.It´s a innocent shirt.Not a big deal.repeat after me: NOT A BIG DEAL!
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Spam69...Chris Morris is famous for his satire in general. I didn't mention anything about the Brass Eye Special, but as you do mention it, there was in that program a heavy reliance on knee jerk reactions to things people deem inappropriate. A lot of the comments here, as I mentioned, are typical knee jerk responses and that, in my opinion, would make Chris Morris proud.
My opinion is that to sexualise this image says more about the person complaining about it, than it does about what is appropriate or not. Whether you still think I'm lovely now, remains to be seen. |
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I think i read in the comments box: "Remeber, be nice!"
You kids are idiots, retards, or something? First: The Threadless team don't block this design. Second: Lavinia is brazilian, and Brazil is a hot country; and here the kids don't use tops until 5-7 years old. Here, this is not sexual thing, but kids thing. If you people consider this thing sexual, your people have a little problem. Maybe this is a cause of school shooting things, or something weird happens in US. Third: FUCK THE FBI! Make them talk to my Elite Squad. It's a joke... But here, free expression really works, and i don't had any fear about somebody taking my HD for that shit. You can disaprove that design, and no problem to say something like: "In US this is not cool" But never judge the sanity of a man or woman from other country, because the world IS NOT JUST THE US. |
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hauhauhauhau...
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You all make me lol.
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Wait, what?
...Also, illegal in Canada. Where drawn representation of naked children is permissable in the US, Canada holds it as the same as child pornography with real children. While unlikely, this shirt could get you arrested up here. Dunno about anywhere else. Shirt has a sweet double-take factor, but regardless of legal concerns, I find it needlessly graphic; like an attempt at hipster graphic irony taken too far by someone who doesn't quite get the joke. So for all that the art is gorgeous, it still gets a shitty score from me. |
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...Also, illegal in Canada. Where drawn representation of naked children is permissable in the US, Canada holds it as the same as child pornography with real children. While unlikely, this shirt could get you arrested up here.
No it couldn't, you loon. |
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eew, i dont know... 2
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annushka - If you're not on a debate team you should be :) . That was a good point well made and I take it on board. I have to be the first to admit that this blog has snowballed into something verging on the hysterical ( in every sense of the word ).
Everyone has there own personal line in the sand as to what is appropriate or offensive. For me this crosses the line not just because I don't like it ( there are a lot of submissions I don't like but each to their own ) but because I think there are wider implications if this sub became a T-shirt on someones back. Does it say something about me personally because I see sexual ambiguity here? I don't know, perhaps, but what I do know is that there are people out there who will get a kick out of wearing this for the wrong reasons. It goes back to the point I made earlier about deviant attitudes being normalized. I don't want images like this to become acceptable in society because it would propagate the view that children can be seen in a sexual way. Which just in case everyone wasn't aware ( yes I'm talking to you artandfear ) is a bad thing. Having said all that I don't blame the designer at all because I think this whole thing was unintended. I think she was going for a cute look rather than anything sexual. I think the girls hair is in an adult style which is the cause of the ambiguity and the toplessness and pool of pee added fuel to the fire. Finally, I'm sure you don't give a damn one way or the other but I still think you're a lovely person :) |
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No it couldn't, you loon.
The history and enforcement of obscenity laws in Canada suggests otherwise. |
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OOPS, I touch kids!
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Kookaberry on Nov 06 '07 I guess I just thought it was like a reinterpretation of that "Everybody Poops" book. She looks like the Coppertone Baby to me. I think what creeps me out is that people are autmoatically saying it's perverted, like they snap judged the girl to be displaying sexiness in some fashion? I can't say I'd wear this illustration but come on people, baby girls run around in just underwear and piss themselves all the time. It's life.
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Bramish on Nov 06 '07 Nice style. Great colours.
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little topless girl? might want to do a boy instead
just to be safe, or draw her a top. |
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The history and enforcement of obscenity laws in Canada suggests otherwise.
No it doesn't. While the new Bill C-2 raises a lot of concerns about limitations on artistic expression, if this particular piece ever made it onto a t-shirt it is highly unlikely that it would be the object that tests that law. Yeesh. |
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....pedophilia....?
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I wish there was more pee and poop.
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Fan of the style, but not so much the subject matter.
Anxious to see more, though. Geewally... You're getting tow' up from the flo' up. It's quite entertaining. |
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The cute animals doing there dirty deed is more then enough to "make" the shirt. I think the little girl puts it over the top.
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this is just creepy and weird, i dont want to know that people who would wear a t-shirt with a picture of a topless prepubescent girl wetting herself, i guess the point is that it is so disgusting
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the nipples and bellybutton make a face.
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Just to put that out there.
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like the artwork too... but it is a bit disturbing... especially w/ the little girl being indecent... make little changes to clean it up a little... and it's got a potential to get more votes..
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Spam69, what I appreciate more than anything is a good debate with someone who doesn't fly off the handle and resort to personal abuse. Because you didn't just start accusing me of being a creep, I do very much respect your opinion and your stand on this.
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Like Anushka and Kookaberry say:
My opinion is that to sexualise this image says more about the person complaining about it, than it does about what is appropriate or not but come on people, baby girls run around in just underwear and piss themselves all the time. !!! And Thumperella and geewally: the discussion about this design makes it more than clear that it won't get enough high votes to get it printed, so no need to be so dramatic. |
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wrong, so wrong.
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seems kinda unwearable
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these comments are fucking hysterical.
my only thought was "ew pee puddle." That's why I don't like it. The illustration's cute though. |
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pretty funny but i wouldn't wear it.
the comments are even funnier! |
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Great art style, and I'd wear this shirt BECAUSE it is disturbing.
It's soo cute and soo wrong all at the same time. I guess i still find pee-pee and poo-poo jokes funny. |
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It´s just about life guys!!!
Little kids runaround naked all the time! If you can see anything wrong here, the problem is you, not the shirt! |
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i noticed someone said she was making a coy finger to the mouth sexual pose, but she is making it at the pig, whilst also pointing at the wee with her other hand,so maybe this tshirt is more about golden showers and animal sex than pedophilia?
lets all argue about that for a bit... |
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child porn. check.
urine stain. check animals pooping on other animals that are farting. check yup. it's all there. |
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If depictions (albeit cute, or Brazilian-made) of half naked children doesn't make you even slightly raise an eyebrow, there's a problem. I wash my hands.
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no, it means you're probably not from the United States.
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geewally..... go date... see woman... live.... get a life or job.
you´re sick man... if you think about nasty just to look this shirt so bad, maaaannnn, the problem is inside you. better! go to psy.. he probly help you! go pee in yourself and be happy!!! And remember. if you hv a child.. IF you got married onde day.... please... don´t look your baby nipples.... |
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I look at this design and think...
What. The. Fuck. Besides that, lose the text. |
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Pablo, Pablo, Pablo. Spend less time trying to look like Mike Shinoda and more time on your rhetoric.
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hahahaha i actually made that comment sarcastically, thinking that there actually wasn't even text on the shirt, but i looked once more and behold! THERE WAS!
So for reals this time... lose the text. |
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grow up geewee...
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That was the most lame comeback I've ever encountered.
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Man, please... get a life. You don't have any idea of how ridiculous you are, spending so much time with this submission. You should make better use of your time working on your designs, because they all suck! Really amatour, bad stuff.
You have no talent at all... but maybe, if you make an effort, try really hard and put some energy on your work, and not on your stupid comments, you can became just mediocre. |
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gotta love controversy
cool stuff |
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Some folks said that the U.S. commenters are being ethnocentric, (and it's true, we are ethnocentric in general) but the fact is that this design was submitted to an American company. If I submitted a design to a company in Brazil, I should know about the culture there. Further, if I bought this shirt, I would have to walk around wearing it here, in my culture, where it would be inappropriate.
I wouldn't buy this shirt because I do feel that the girl is sexualized, but I think the art is gorgeous. I hope the controversy won't stop the designer from submitting again. |
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Robsoul on Nov 08 '07 I do feel that the girl is sexualized She's taking a piss, you find that sexual? You ppl should read Everybody Poops because everybody does poop, pee and fart. But I guess this is what pornography is, huh? Please. 5ved and buyed. |
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Nope, I don't care about the peeing part. I find her wearing a low-cut string bikini with no shirt to be sexual. I think the pose imitates one often used to depict "sexiness" in adult women. If this was a real little girl doing her thing and being a kid, I wouldn't have that opinion, but this is a portrayal of a child that was created for enjoyment of/use by adults.
No, I don't think this is pornography, but that it's inappropriate. And I don't have any objection to pornography anyway. But I object to involving kids in adult sexuality. And yes, people should read Everyone Poops. It's a great book. My students love it, and I deal with their "oopses" every day. Again, I really hope to see more work from this designer. |
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I love the design, but I definitely would not buy it. I would feel uncomfortable wearing a shirt like that
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Well, I scrolled all the way down here, but halfway through I realized someone probably already said what I have to say. But I'm already here and it was a long journey, so..
Put a top on that girl. |
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lose the design, keep the text.
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No it doesn't. While the new Bill C-2 raises a lot of concerns about limitations on artistic expression, if this particular piece ever made it onto a t-shirt it is highly unlikely that it would be the object that tests that law. Yeesh.
Who cares about the new bill? The existing laws are bad enough. My neighbour wrote the review that got Eli Langer busted, and that was back in '93. |
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Coooooooooooooooooooooooooooontroversy.
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Pablo, I love how a guy whose only two submissions in two years involve splatters and pain and clipart sangria is calling my designs "amatour". (I'd also work on the spelling while you're at it, Chico.)
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gee...geewally...and...pablo( de picasso)lobo
unite against me! grow up guys.ur feud is way outa proportion. |
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its jus meant to be humorous, but yet anothe rinstance where, design has to be all -encompassing...see:
http://www.threadless.com/submission/147099/Core_of_Truth#lastcomment & http://www.threadless.com/submission/147041/More_hands_more_chocolate#lastcomment |
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What is the Brazilian reality TV show for grown ups that want to RAPE kids?
I gonna take a wild guess there isn't one we have a problem with this in the US, (not 'america') IN the US it is called "To Catch a Preditor" Do you as a Brazilian designer want to perpetuate US preditors? It's not that far fetched. I hope we all respect kids We all respect women and by all means I respect many Brazilian franz! Brazilians come to chicago its no Rio But Rio is no Chicago com respeito! If your from Brazil don't hate on US, we send respect |
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STFU Nestahope, you don't make sense. Good design, little edgy but lovely style.
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You told him!
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sonmi on Apr 02 '10 haha
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