haha wow. i wouldn't ever wear this...but i like it

brilliant

kinda reminds me of the korn "follow the leader" cd cover where they're playing hopscotch off a cliff. too morbid for my taste, but i'll score well.
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A little dark for my t-shirt collection

this is too errie!

I think that I have to have this shirt. I'll wear it to the family Christmas party.

$4

I think it´s hopeful, see the smiling ghosts!
In the beginning the design has no name, maybe "the suicide children" is a bit weird, but the relationship between the title and the design is just to put a name to the t-shirt.

Thanks for the comments ^_^
And sorry for my poor english v_v

So they're happy because they killed themselves?

The abrupt cutoff of the lower left corner kills this design.

wtf?

Like the style...but not the concept.

no.

Inspired by the Japanese movie Suicide Club?

omg thats terrible. i had a friend that hung herself and i dont find this shirt amusing or inspired or shirt worthy at all. this is just wrong

dude and fuck the ghosts its basically saying just kill yourself youll be much happier

No comment on the subject but design wise...
Having hard edges really hurts as it gives an instant generic unfinished look and feel. The edges should be more free flowing and organic. You could use the strokes that the ground is made up of and let them extend at different lengths or something.

that's horrible... can you imagine parents of children who have hanged themselves seeing this shirt?

this is sick and disgusting and extremely disrespectful to anyone who has lost someone from suicide. this should be taken off threadless.

It's weird to me that people are up in arms over this one (cartoon violence is a staple of illustration, and here it happens to be self-inflicted- it's not even gory!). Without the title I'm not sure anyone would assume these were children, either. The way it is drawn, that thing could easily be some kind of spectral tire swing- I can't imagine many people would look close enough to be offended in the real world.

My only issue with this design is that it isn't currently making good use of the shirt- I think the tree and spirits should climb higher on the tee, and as was said earlier the edges should be faded. I quite like the little characters.

Only mediocre works of art are not hated by anybody. Interesting concept and illustration. I usually don't like pictures this large on a tee, but the composition is nice with the moon as the central element.

cool idea, but it doesnt belong on a shirt. sorry man.

Really cool design and the idea is so well done and understandable, but as Shimala said (which is only like the third time ive ever seen him comment on a sub), the cutoff kills the flow of this design, plus the concept as a tee isn't really my thing. But i just gotta appreciate a fully realized concept that shows an intruiging story as your eyes flow from the left to right, and back to the left again as the ghosts go happily away. 3.

i'm no expert, but doesn't it seem too complex/busy for a tee?
could it be made to work with just 5-6 kids and a simpler background?

I love, love, love suicide. I wanna put it all over my shirt!!!

First at all, I am very sorry about the people that have felt offended by this picture, but also I think that it is only telling a little story, and so it should be respected as such. Irony and humour are borderless and necessary, and they are two essential pillars on my own way of life. For this reason, I demand respect for my worldview and my manner, as I respect the opinion of other people.

Thanks.

that's disgusting.

Hmmmmm, it's a very eerie design. I like the illustration but I can certainly understand the people who've lost loved ones to suicide would be deeply offended.

LOVE IT!!! $50,000
more like this. Some people need to chill out, it's a t-shirt ffs.

i really don't understand why people are so offended by this shirt because there are plenty of violent shirts on threadless and it isn't making a violent statement. without the title no one would even know they were children. i've had more than one friend kill themselves/attempt suicide and i wasn't offended at all. the artist wasn't trying to hurt anyone with it. i just don't think they need to be crucified. jeez.

anyway, design-wise, i think it's a good start but the edges need to be fixed. the landscape is great (ground/tree/moon) and i thought the ghosts were very cute. don't worry too much. you can't live life without offending someone sometime.

eerie design but very interesting. it's been said before, but the way the design just cuts off really kills it. not sure about it on a t-shirt but I would actually buy this if it was just a print or a poster of some sort.

why?











no

suicide is a serious thing and i don't think it is an appropriate subject for a t-shirt. i'm not really offended, but i think that it is tasteless. i can tell you are not making a joke of it, but suicide really is a sensitive subject that can upset a lot of people very easily.

Oh my god. I would never buy this. No. Never.

i really like this a lot
but unfortunatly it seems like your not going to win
but i gave you a five and id definitly buy
it really love this
even just as picture
suicide isserious but i think the way you protrayed it on the shirt you did so with great care and thought
it might be nice if the moon was off to the side or only a crescent i never like circles on shirts for some reason.
amazing

A nice design, but that wouldn't make me use this! No way!

que pasa contigo eh!!!yio paso de escribierte en ingles.. q se joda el q no lo entienda.. bueno pos eso que ya e votao por tu camiseta, q ademas ma molao mucho jeje pero la tienes q sacar en negro eh? :P venga danielin, aver si tienes suerte
un besazo !! laura

Follow the Leader by Korn, yeah someone already mentioned it.

you know, you could change the name of this design and i bet it would stir up ALOT less controvery, i mean its not like it looks like children its only if you know the name...

If I can I´ll do it.

Now this is dark.
Good job.

my uncle just shot himself. this isn't cool. suicide isn't cool. no.

I like your style, but you should rethink your titles... children and death, bad combo. Also, the moon is flat, not sketchy like the rest of it.

this is pretty not cool.

yay! now if kids would really do this! :)

I think this design is awesome, and people need to chill the eff out. The design tells a story, and makes me want to think about what is going, and why.

Also, saying it offends you solely on the basis of being about suicide is lame. It isn't glorifying suicide. You can't be offended merely by the subject of suicide. After all, I know people who've died, but I'm not offended every time someone brings up death.

Plus, I actually find the title intriguing. I mean, "suicide children" doesn't have to mean literal children. After all, we're all someone's child. I genuinely like this shirt, and gave you a $5, but I would have given you a 5 regardless for submitting this and sticking up for it.

When i first saw this I took it more as a commentary on modern ennui, where no thrill can possibly fill the void or disaffection people feel... or as statement on how death itself is trivialized in popular culture and made to be entertainment. I didn't see it as necessarily condoning or encouraging suicide. The way the people are lined up suggests people lined up at a newest, craziest midway ride (or a trendy club) so I interpreted that as social commentary rather than a sick joke that makes light of suicide. That said, I can see how a design like this could upset and offend some people, and my intepretation is probably way off anyhow. The hard edge at the bottom of the design really does break the flow.

Read JTHM much?

style and perspective nice.. . a bit too morbid

I appreciate this is only a t-shirt design no doubt made with the best of intentions, but this site attracts quite a lot of young people who maybe on average can be more fundamentally influence by things than older people. I don't want to sound overly critical but surely you realize that the suicide of children is not a fit subject for this site. I would describe you design as irresponsible. I wounder whether you created this design to cause controversy and there by elevate yourself in the eyes of the immature

Let me first say that i don't wish to attack the designer at all, especially as he has apologized already for offending anyone. To all of you who have told people who are offended/hurt/saddened by the design to "chill out," you are thoughtless and rude. shame on all of you. defend the artist's intentions if you want, but have some understanding for people who may have been personally affected by suicide.

"a picture is worth a thousand words" The artist may mean one thing but convey another. I found this design a little disturbing... suicide is a real thing that shouldn't be messed with jokingly. I Thought it was well drawn, keep it up my friend, a little on the brighter side :)

I think this guy has drawn something personal to him and then without too much thought has put it in the public domain without a good explanation of what it means to him. Context is everything in art which is why there has been so much upset over this. There are people out there ( mostly teenagers ) who love morbid shit like this, the darker the better, as a way of expressing angst. It doesn't necessarily mean they want to kill themselves or anyone else.

yeah, i find it a little disturbing too, sorry, nice style:)

It's not the people it doesn't affect that concerns me it's the ones it might affect. With the greatest respect to you, an explanation does not serve as a justification for something that is unnecessary and easily avoidable on a site that has submissions from children.

I notice that Daniel B has not spoken of trying to withdraw this submission maybe he is enjoying the attention to much. What sort of person introduces the subject of child suicide amid much protest and still does not feel the need to withdraw their design. Does DanielB get some sort ot thrill out of all this?

Some of you guys are nuts, seriously. There is absolutely no reason to withdraw this. That sounds like total censorship bullshit. While a few people found this offensive, a lot of people found it worthwhile otherwise it would have been dropped from the competition due to score by now.

Also, Chris Carney- do you honestly believe that if a kid saw this they'd kill themselves? Really? That seems to be your argument, but it just makes me think that you don't know many kids. If people were that strongly influenced by shirts, Wham would have ended suicide ages ago...

mjoo: Your reasoning seem to be lame and uninformed. You have ether not read my comments very closely or you have simply not understood them. You have attributed views to me which I have not expressed or implied directly or indirectly. Is there any where in my comments that would suggest in any way that I would welcome " total censorship shit " .Withdrawing this design is " acceptable censorship" in as much as banning child pornography is " acceptable censorship " I would not use the word censorship, I view these issue as a question of what is acceptable behaviour in a free society. I find your general approach to this serious subject as feable. It seem as if you decided upon you opinion first and then worked out your argument.

i aggree its a bit disturbing, thought provoking, but maybe thats the point.... art is interpretation... suicide is real. it happens all over... how many kids committ suicide, too many... they do it cause they are miserable and feel like there is no way out but death... in the illustration the kids are miserable, and their souls are lifted smiling.... one has to aggree this world we live in isnt always easy.... maybe this shirt is a way for the artist to display all of this....

all the shirts go through inspection before it is put up on here.. so obviously threadless thought it was ok to post... everyone has opionions and thoughts. we have to respect them... both pro and con....

with that said, i think the artist as talent. keep up the good work... i love the whole feel of the shirt, even though its a bit disturbing...

and i think those who are protesting the most, its hitting a chord or something....

also there are different uses to suicide. i found this def. on google:

The destruction or ruin of one's own interests: It is professional suicide to involve oneself in illegal practices.

and other types of artists have used the name suicide, like suicide girls, etc.....

The title will not be present on the t-shirt -I think I have talked about that above-, and I have assumed that children and suicide in the same phrase are not a good combination. Some people have judged only the title, not the design proper, in this design I work with some concepts as life, death, childhood, the way we lose innocence, dreams, hopes... Also about the fear to death, how we do not accept it as part of our lifes.

If you like the t-shirt, score 5; if not, score 0, that is the purpose of scores; and the comments, to make critics and observations about the design, not the designer. You do not know me (nor I you), for I think you should be more thoughtful when judging people from a image uploaded into a t-shirt contest with the best intentions.
My purpose was not try to cause controversy, I believe that controversy is something good if it makes you to think over and look forward. Art is the best catalyser of society and culture, in many ways the controversy is the essence of art -do you remember Dadaism?-, but I fear that I have not enough talent and genius to be controversial in the way I wish.
As I said, this is just a little story I wanted to tell, and I respect the opinions of people that dislike it and those felt offended by, but in most of the cases critics are focusing the design, not me. This is the way to do it (remember, be nice!).
Chris, do you know Magritte? 'Ceci n'est pas une pipe'? Well, the children are not children, the tree is not a tree, and the things flying to the sky are not ghosts. Please, don´t compare a t-shirt design with the child pornography, because it is very, very unfair, as you know.

amazing and suggestive!!
I truly hope this shirt will be printed, but Im afraid the haters are out there.. very nice tho

im just going to be honest i never score 0 on designs because i think to even submit a design wether its crappy or not deserves something however i hate this design because of what its portraying not because the illustration isnt good...however until you lose someone extremely close to you to suicide i dont think you can understand how it effects you and that is why i truly disgust this sub, sorry

yikes...too morbid for me

scary, but really cool, 5

disgusting

Daniel B: I used the comparison of child pornography with your design in order to illustrate the feebleness of your reasoning. .I suggest you re-read my comments, you certainly seem to have a problem comprehending the written word as demonstrated on a number of occupations

i think this is beautiful
5$$$

Daniel B: I used the comparison of child pornography with your design in order to illustrate the feebleness of your reasoning. I suggest you re-read my comments, as you seem to have some difficulty in comprehending the written word as demonstrated by yourself on a number of occasions. I'm appalled at the cowardly way you hide behind the most stale and sterile platitudes. Relying on the the stock in trade blurb of a second rate picture sellers is pathetic. Can you not understand that this site has members as young as 15 years or maybe less. It's not for fools such as you to decide whether or not 15 year olds should be exposed to the topic of child suicide or not.Do you really believe that a few stolen sentences from some books you've read justify your stupidity

Phoenixwildfire: I have decided not to engage you in any sort of discussion as an act of kindness toward you.

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My god. I think some people need to calm down a bit. Chris Carney in particular, I presume you want us all to live in a cuddly little world where nothing bad ever happens. Comparing this T-shirt design to child pornography is borderline farcical.

Anyway, the design itself is, hey, a bit emo for me. The comments on the harsh edges by shimala is bang on the money too. Nicely illustrated though, and I could see a market for it. I'll sit on the fence and hand out a 3.

Moreheatthanlight: Rather than embarrass yourself in public by struggling to understand a subject that you are clearly out of your depth in, wouldn't it have been a better tactic for you to simply say nothing . Read all the comments made by everyone on this subject carefully and slowly try to understand what everyone is saying. only when you have absorbed everything can an intelligent opinion begin to emerge. Their is no shame in being wrong ,I've been very wrong on many occasions, that life.but crase stupidity is something to be ashame of.

"crass"...instead of "crase"

No sense of humor around here...and of course no metaphor understanding, this desing is a classic joke against the sadness of the death, part ironic, part poetic, just see the works of Edward Gorey or Charles Addams in which is usual to find children as a concept to examine our society, is just like compare the tragedy of Columbine with the violence in the videogames. Bad taste?, yes, of course people said that about Pollock, Picasso or Murakami, I think the question is quite simple, is just educational point of view...
By the way, I love the desing and sure I'm going to buy it!

well. i like the subject matter and it's well done. but the placement is really bad. either put it all the way at the bottom of the shirt or move it up to the chest area. and the moon is pretty much SMACK in the middle of the shirt, maybe if you had the moon kinda hanging out behind the tree a little bit. or if you moved the design up the shirt you could have the moon on one of the shoulders.

Princesa: Not so much rebel without a cause, as rebel without a brain. See I do have a sense of humor. Humor of course is what this is all about.

I have had two friends commit suicide before they graduated highschool. So in my opinion this does bother me a LOT. But on the other hand that is part of "ART", and that is one of the things that makes me love art.

To actually discuss the t-shirt it needs to be put at the very bottom of the shirt so its not so cut off

well if u wanted a reaction u certainly got one.

hahaha, seriously. tho i enjoy that this became lets hate on chris carney time! i liked the style of this design, regardless of concept. CC, you have to be 13, i believe, to get on threadless, so i think you know what suicide is by then. o, and you can say i write funny or speak in an immature way again if you like, but ur still a prick.
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4'd. Too emo for me though.

Come on! Hang with the in crowd!! lol, too dark for me to wear, but I like the artwork and the shapes.

I'm not going to enter the content debate, either. Your style is awesome, but with something like this I would consider doing the edges of it a little differently to how you've done here. It seems a little chopped off to me, and I think this design would greatly benefit from a more 'fading out' approach, that way you could make the stream of ghosts not 'cut off' too. If you toned back the ground area, the queue of people and ghosts would jump out. keep up with your art, you obviously have talent.

I like that it is dark and disturbing! I would so buy if it makes it.

To reply to CC just because there may be younger children on here does not make it the artist's duty to make sure that the child doesn't see anything disturbing, it is the child's parents duty to make sure they know what their children are doing, seeing, etc. and that they understand what they are seeing. I do not think that means things can just be crazy with no thought but seriously this design, I don't think is as disturbing as other designs I have seen on this site. I honestly don't see what the big fuss is I've seen way worse things that were uncalled for here on threadless.

ew

Chris Carney: I've read everything. Very slowly. I think I'm entitled to make an informed decision now without being 'out of my depth'.

You're an idiot. An idiot who uses some really big words, mind you. Well done.

Its uh....................very texterized.........

$5.

I'd really like to see a larger version as well. Because this is beautifully drawn and like a FEW people have said, people need to chill the fuck out.

I think suicide is a very selfish act, and I think it portrays that well at least. That's the only positive thing I have to say.
As to the rest of you I think (sometimes) character can be judged by what a man finds laughable and acceptable.

p.s. I do consider a persons art skills when scoring, not just the content.

i dont know what to say......sad.

the execution and what not are great. i'm loving the style. the subject matter doesn't offend me, controversal content need to be addressed by art no matter if the teaming masses mark it as wrong, but i could not wear shirt. i would not want it to seem if as i was condoning or promoting suicide in anyway.

Who is their right mind would want to wear this offensive bullshit? 0

this is absolutely sick and gorss and i cant even believe that yuo actually put that on a shirt. what the heck...

this is absolutely sick and gross and i cant even believe that you actually put that on a shirt. what the heck...

I agree with t4sh4. concept = yuck, but I love your design style. try something a little less morbid and it'll be cool.

this isn't a forum people. just vote on the shirt!

DanielB: How low will you stoop in you next attempt to get some cheap and short lived attention, controversy and talent are two different things. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Chris Carney: I believe that your if that you look for attention. It lets speak badly of people. You have seen yourself, you seem very rare making those comparisons, seem a rapist in power.
Daniel B: The t-shirt is fantastic, brilliant and wonderful. congratulations.
Sorry for my english.

this scares me

DanielB: I bet some artistic peadofiles would love this shirt

I would like to make an appeal to anyone who finds this shirt offensive to e-mail Threadless and make a complaint

this is too weird for words... why would you come up with something like this? mind you it is pretty well done bar the cut off foreground.

DanielB: Is that a noose in the background tied to a branch which presumeably is there to hang the children with?

this makes me sad.. very very sad.

This is a really good design DanielB. :) And actually, just looking at it without the title, it doesn't look like they're necessarily commiting suicide, it's almost like they're already dead and moving through a line that's crossing over, you know? I love your style, and I love the full moon to death. People have already recommended that you smooth out your edges above, and I think I would suggest that you make the branch with the noose or tire swing or whatever on it look more like the others on the tree, it looks a little unnatural. :)

If you called it Ghost Factory no one would have thought twice about it.

In fact, you probably would have received a bunch of comments like "That's awesome - I love ghosts. And trees."

the sharp edge doesnt work at all.

Suicide is a serious thing and it's about time it was brought to the table. I don't really like the graphics but this is at least a move towards a more enlightenend society. Great job.

I like the design but it is a bit creepy and I can understand how people could be offended. I wouldnt wear this shirt but i wil score it a 4

Disturbing and thought-provoking ... something I love but would be a little scared to wear.

DanielB: I've noticed something else. Standing just under the noose hanging from the branch is a dark stocky figure which to my eyes is clearly an adult.If you zoom in you can see "his" eyes. So he is facing the children. He is obvoisly the hangman. This fundamentally changes your design from child suicide to child murder.Those who have supported you should review their opinion on your design

i think artistically it's great.
enoughs been said about the abrupt edges.
i hate the moon, centrally located and full
it pulls away from the subject matter

demanding respect is like punching water.

Chris Carney: It seems to me that what you want is a t-shirt ...... but free, and you do not know like requesting it

Great tee!!!

I love it.

Great artistic work. Concept and drawing great.

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For the "offended" ones: "Have you ever seen TV? What about "Ghost whisperer", also offended? And what about movies, did you also felt offended with the very awarded "Corpse Bride" by Tim Burton with all these dead bodies or with Sofia Coppola's The Virgin Suicides???
Come on.........

es preciosa!!!!
si no t la pillan aki, mandala x ahi k seguro k alguno habra con wen gusto ;) y reservame una a precio d costo jurjur

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pd: cada dia mejoras mas machote!

xD

this should have gotten higher. you people are asses for not judging the design...instead you judged the name of the shirt!

Pues la verdad es que yo quiero otra, no se por allí, pero por aquí te las vamos a quitar de las manos como serigrafies unas pocas.
Ánimo y a seguir así.
Un saludo.

¡Aupa! El que la sigue la consigue Danielín, y que hablen de uno, bien o mal, que la indiferencia sí que es lo peor...

i, for one, did not judge the shirtt based on the title, i judged it based on the design. this design had no quality. the actual drawing was too simple and it's not vibrant for my taste. also, there are many ideas on how to draw this topic and personally this drawing does not match or even grasp it.

I think some people were attracted to this design because of the controversy it coursed and not the design in it's self. I would not be surprised if DanielB submitted a design depicting a pile of dog shit to attract attention to himself. No doubt there will be those who will hale it as a master piece in order to appear as "edgy people"

I don't think this image would spur a string of suicides.
It doesn't really get the idea across of copycat suicide.
But,
I had to do research on copycat suicide and i would be cautious about creating shirts about suicide. On the island of Micronesia, where there had never been reported suicide- one
kid, after a fight with his father, commited suicide and within weeks hundreds copied his suicide. Most of them even copied the way he committed suicide- he hung himself and so did they. The kids who copied him even wrote similar suicide notes blaming their parents... You can look this up on the net.
(it was in a book titled The Tipping Point, Malcom Gladell.)

So, its not absurd to suggest that this is dangerous.
and its not that absurd to suggest banning this.
Newspapers all around the world censor reports on suicide
becuase when a suicide is reported in the paper the suicide rates jump.

Slicedbread8: Thanks for your comments, I find your words very interesting. I shall have a look on the Internet for the book. I wanted the design banned, but only from sites like threadless were parent would not expect their children to be viewing depictions of suicide.

Slicedbread8: Thanks for your comments, I find your words very interesting. I shall have a look on the Internet for the book. I wanted the design banned, but only from sites like threadless were parent would not expect their children to be viewing depictions of suicide.

I'm going to continue to say this... Great design, DanielB.

yeah brilliant design

Well I'm assuming that because of sensitive individuals this got pulled? I was hoping to also wear it to a family gathering and start some sh*t.