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RuffinIt aka has been a member since March 19, 2009, has scored 527 submissions, giving an average score of 2.10, helping 18 designs get printed.

Apr 23 '10 by RuffinIt
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Last Blog...go celebrate.

okay...so Aled is the highest paid artist..right?

and he has had about 26 designs printed...right?

and has made about $56,200

but when you consider he has submitted more than 80 designs his average is about $700.00 per design. not bad, not great but not bad.

Then there is the rest....artists workin' your tails off for pennies.

Threadless, I have to hand it to ya. You know how to work a crowd. Just not this girl.

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SuperRyan on Apr 23 '10 at 3:04pm

I don't understand. Are you thinking that Threadless owns submitted designs?

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:11pm

no, I know they don't but why else create the art?

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:14pm

It takes a long time to make these designs and it hardly seems worth the effort.

Maltzmania on Apr 23 '10 at 3:18pm

say wahaaaaaat

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:18pm

do the math

Maltzmania on Apr 23 '10 at 3:22pm

i don't even know where to begin so i'll just leave.

EN AJUSTES on Apr 23 '10 at 3:24pm

I know where to begin:

You think this place is only about the money?

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:24pm

I'm right,

Lets take a look at another just for the heck of it:

who should I pick?

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:25pm

It's always about the money, don't kid yourself.

radiostaticstar on Apr 23 '10 at 3:25pm

lulz

Maltzmania on Apr 23 '10 at 3:26pm

EmmyCic

Maltzmania on Apr 23 '10 at 3:27pm

analyze this

EN AJUSTES on Apr 23 '10 at 3:27pm

So, if you make an awesome design, which improves your skills as an artist, but it doesn't get printed, it doesn't get you any money, that design is worthless?

mike bautista on Apr 23 '10 at 3:30pm

Maltzmania on Apr 23 '10 at 3:18pm

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:31pm

EmmyCic aka Emmy is a 20.74 year old girl, has been a member since September 2, 2009, has scored 14 submissions, giving an average score of 4.86.

she made one design and it got printed so it was worth it. How many times does that happen?

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:34pm

I was looking at Hector:

3 prints - 75 designs

mike bautista on Apr 23 '10 at 3:35pm

What is this blog about?

MeredithSerena on Apr 23 '10 at 3:35pm

You don't enjoy making art? If not for Threadless, I would still be doing this and actually I DID do this before I knew about Threadless just making little designs for my portfolio. I think it's fun. I enjoy the process of getting better and better and trying different things.

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:37pm

Joe:

9 prints - 112 designs

mans workin' himself to death.

EN AJUSTES on Apr 23 '10 at 3:37pm

There are people with 100 designs that were never printed. They obviously aren't doing it for the money.

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:38pm

MeredithSerena on Apr 23 '10 at 3:35pm

You don't enjoy making art? If not for Threadless, I would still be doing this and actually I DID do this before I knew about Threadless just making little designs for my portfolio. I think it's fun. I enjoy the process of getting better and better and trying different things.

that's sweet and naive

mike bautista on Apr 23 '10 at 3:39pm

Lol. This is a funny blog.

You are funny.

Please keep making blogs.

MeredithSerena on Apr 23 '10 at 3:39pm

RuffinIt I love your eyes but you just aint gettin' the point. Are you even an artist?

EN AJUSTES on Apr 23 '10 at 3:39pm

mans workin' himself to death.

Totally. And he loves what he does.

You mean he should stop doing it just because he isn't getting paid?

jshepp on Apr 23 '10 at 3:40pm

I lol'd.

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:41pm

EN AJUSTES on Apr 23 '10 at 3:37pm

There are people with 100 designs that were never printed. They obviously aren't doing it for the money.

it's not for a gallery, it's for a t-shirt.

They are doing it hoping to get printed so they can get paid.

jstumpenhorst on Apr 23 '10 at 3:44pm

sorry but i disagree. of course i want to get printed but i make art regardless. i have submitted a ton of designs and i would continue to do it whether i ever got printed again or not. people do illustrate and create just for the self enjoyment of it all.

tracerbullet on Apr 23 '10 at 3:44pm

several designers who don't get printed here get their designs printed on other sites. it's not like they're always going to waste.

and most people do this as a hobby. if you try to make threadless your job, you're gonna be poor as fuck.

jstumpenhorst on Apr 23 '10 at 3:45pm

threadless is a good venue for exposure. even if you don't get printed on a tee it's still worth submitting in my opinion to help you develop as a designer or illustrator even if at the end of the day your primary canvas is not a tshirt.

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:46pm

and most people do this as a hobby. if you try to make threadless your job, you're gonna be poor as fuck.

lol

EN AJUSTES on Apr 23 '10 at 3:47pm

it's not for a gallery, it's for a t-shirt.

Wrong.

It's for whatever the heck they want.

They are doing it hoping to get printed so they can get paid.

False.

They are doing it because that's what they love doing. Otherwise they would've stopped a long time ago. Threadless isn't a job.

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:47pm

I think it is foolish to try. and yes, I'm an artist.

Maltzmania on Apr 23 '10 at 3:47pm

you missed the analysis on Emmy

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:48pm

most artists are foolish. You do not see engineers giving away their ideas.

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:49pm

she made one design and it got printed so it was worth it. How many times does that happen?

tracerbullet on Apr 23 '10 at 3:49pm

her one design won besttee of the year and she got $20,000 for it

EN AJUSTES on Apr 23 '10 at 3:50pm

Maybe engineers should share their genius with the rest of mankind.

robotwaste on Apr 23 '10 at 3:51pm

Did you factor in reprint money?

Also, Alex has sold his shirt designs to other places like shirt.woot, so even if Threadless didn't buy it, he still made money.

Fleck on Apr 23 '10 at 3:53pm

Its never about the money. To see that 1000+ people have seen my art is a thrill enough. You don't get that just anywhere.

psherman42 on Apr 23 '10 at 3:56pm

If you want to compare this to other professions look at the number of programmers who participate in open source projects which don't net them any money. So why do they do this? To be fools and give away their ideas? Of course not, real reasons include: to increase their skills, to network with others, to be able to look at something and say "I made that". Now guess what, same thing happens here.

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:56pm

Fleck on Apr 23 '10 at 3:53pm

Its never about the money. To see that 1000+ people have seen my art is a thrill enough. You don't get that just anywhere.

again, naive

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:57pm

psherman42 on Apr 23 '10 at 3:56pm

If you want to compare this to other professions look at the number of programmers who participate in open source projects which don't net them any money. So why do they do this? To be fools and give away their ideas? Of course not, real reasons include: to increase their skills, to network with others, to be able to look at something and say "I made that". Now guess what, same thing happens here.

first good point I have read.

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 3:59pm

optifan don't get sarcastic

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 4:01pm

13,000 shirts at a $2 commission per shirt

That's pretty sweet. Like I said his effort is probably paying off for him.

sonmi on Apr 23 '10 at 4:01pm

i think if anything, threadless is a good motivator to create. i think there are some people who do only submit to threadless for the money, but i think the people who sub lots of designs just like to create, and a monetary reward is just the icing to what they do.

MeredithSerena on Apr 23 '10 at 4:06pm

I even do contests that offer no reward like on deviant art. hehe! Just cuz I like the theme.

sonmi on Apr 23 '10 at 4:06pm

threadless has helped me in so many non-monetary ways, too. it's forced me to focus on concepts and color palettes and learning about catering to a market.

shakethesheets on Apr 23 '10 at 4:07pm

haha, you really can't handle opinions that differ from yours or offer any respect for others or their arguments in debates.

telling people they're naive for enjoying making art? for getting some pleasure out of their art getting exposure? even without the obvious that that does further a career by getting your work into the world and making connections and all that, it's fucking disrespectful to dismiss someone's motivations for creating things.

it seems kinda pathetic to have no appreciation for the art of art itself, that everything is about money and why else should anyone bother to do anything.

RuffinIt on Apr 23 '10 at 4:08pm

gotta go. My son is having a birthday party and my presents is required...You guys have fun, this may be for a lot of you just not for me.

it was real, and it was fun (sometimes) but it was not real fun.

sonmi on Apr 23 '10 at 4:10pm

i guess if ruffinit feels it's all about the money, that's her deal. i don't think any artist really needs to justify their means for creating their art.

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