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a__ aka //A M E L I A\\ is a girl, has been a member since July 13, 2008, has scored 12,434 submissions, giving an average score of 2.22, helping 200 designs get printed.
This should be up for voting sometime this week. Thanks for everyone who helped me with this new version, I really appreciate your input.

Wizard Guitar Duel (v2) - Threadless T-shirts, Nude No More
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laurastead
laurastead on Mar 10 '10 at 9:14pm
i like the one of the guy by himself
mitchellp
mitchellp on Mar 10 '10 at 9:18pm
Hey Amelia! I really like where this design is going. And I prefer the top version. If you're gonna add anyting, I'd added lightning coming from the guitar like in music video "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" by The Darkness. Here's a Go to about 3 minutes and 10 seconds into the video to see what I'm talking about. Good Luck!
artmuller2003
artmuller2003 on Mar 10 '10 at 9:18pm
nice.
mitchellp
mitchellp on Mar 10 '10 at 9:20pm
You could even give the wizards a red or green hair.
a__
a__ on Mar 10 '10 at 9:21pm
hey, thank for the input.

@mitchellp, that is something I am planning on doing. If you looks at my original sub, they have some laser beam action going on. I don't know if I should watch that vid, that's one of those songs that gets stuck in your head forever!
a__
a__ on Mar 10 '10 at 9:22pm
yeah, that's a cool idea too. gonna try that.
a__
a__ on Mar 10 '10 at 9:44pm
Alright, just tryin out the different hair color idea. The laser beams positioning is just a test. The different colors do look kind of cool though.

mitchellp
mitchellp on Mar 10 '10 at 9:53pm
That's pretty cool, but the lightning needs more detail like sparks and the floating prism should reflect some of these new colors.
a__
a__ on Mar 10 '10 at 9:57pm
yeah, this is the original. I'm probably going to make the lasers a little more like this.



mitchellp
mitchellp on Mar 10 '10 at 10:00pm
The original is soo good. It's gonna be hard to top.
Outlaw01
Outlaw01 on Mar 10 '10 at 10:00pm
I'd add some elemental properties to the "lasers" like one might be using Fire and the other Ice (to be cliche). But elemental properties make sense when talking wizards -- but that may be my inner RPgamer speaking.
mitchellp
mitchellp on Mar 10 '10 at 10:01pm
I do like how the newer version use less ink though.
mitchellp
mitchellp on Mar 10 '10 at 10:03pm
Oooooh.... I like the fire wizard vs the ice wizard idea!
soloyo
soloyo on Mar 10 '10 at 10:11pm
Really cool!
a__
a__ on Mar 10 '10 at 10:19pm
I like the original too, but I really hate the green color block background.

Fire & ice is a really cool idea, maybe I will give it a try, gotta think about that. I was hoping to not have to start a whole new version though, photoshop is starting to fry my brain.
a__
a__ on Mar 10 '10 at 10:21pm
I guess the wizards this is most inspired by are from lord of the rings & harry potter, so they are more just straight up powerful & mystical & maybe less elemental, but I guess I am just dipping my toe into the wizarding world.
Outlaw01
Outlaw01 on Mar 10 '10 at 10:21pm
I think the only real problem with this design/the original design is it got raped by morons/haters.



very underscored.
a__
a__ on Mar 10 '10 at 10:28pm
that is unfortunately the story of my threadless days so far, although some were probably more deserved than others
a__
a__ on Mar 10 '10 at 11:44pm
ok, I decided to try out the fire/ice idea. I think it could be pretty cool. Probably gonna work on it some more tomorrow & see how it goes. Here's what I've got so far.







Yes, no, questions, comments, any ideas & words of wisdom are still greatly appreciated!
brentendo
brentendo on Mar 10 '10 at 11:52pm
I really like that!
Outlaw01
Outlaw01 on Mar 10 '10 at 11:57pm
Yeah, work up the elemental effect and I think the design should be ace.
a__
a__ on Mar 11 '10 at 12:13am
thanks guys! yeah, I wasn't totally sure about it but now that I can see it coming together, I think the fire/ice combo has the potential to work out. Thanks so much for the idea Outlaw, I don't think that ever would have entered my brain on my own!

Hope to have some updated stuff to put up tomorrow night.
Outlaw01
Outlaw01 on Mar 11 '10 at 12:15am
it's all those years of MTG, D&D, and Final Fantasy...
a__
a__ on Mar 11 '10 at 12:23am
yeah, I'm pretty bad at any sort of strategy type game so I never got into any of those, boggle on the other hand...
mitchellp
mitchellp on Mar 11 '10 at 5:25pm
Try adding some yellow with the red
a__
a__ on Mar 11 '10 at 9:56pm
Thanks to all the awesome advice & ideas from yesterday, I have made some advancements towards completing this design, this version at least.

This is what I've got right now:







I'm planning on adding some more electricity & debris type action. Not sure if the trees will stay in or not.

I might also simultaneously sub the standalone wizard t-shirt, cuz I really like that one too.
mitchellp
mitchellp on Mar 11 '10 at 10:20pm
You should make the ice wizard's ice look more ice-like. Right now, it looks like electricity right now. Here's some ideas:







laurastead
laurastead on Mar 11 '10 at 10:48pm
lol, you guys have been giving her great advice! this is looking great! and mitchell, i love that darkness video!
a__
a__ on Mar 11 '10 at 11:02pm
hmm, I might try that out. I kind of like the icy spray that it has now, but if it looks better w/ the chunks then maybe it's worth giving it a go.

What's that second pic from? It looks like the dude from star trek.
a__
a__ on Mar 11 '10 at 11:28pm
Just testing out the ice chunks.



mitchellp
mitchellp on Mar 11 '10 at 11:45pm
The second pic is Frozone from the Incredibles! Which is a great movie. And the Ice Chunks looks okay. I almost think you need to do a combination of the chunks and the spray.
a__
a__ on Mar 11 '10 at 11:57pm
I'm going to add that to my list of movies to watch.

Yes, the chunks look a little stiff on their own, combo action may be in order.
Outlaw01
Outlaw01 on Mar 12 '10 at 6:58pm
I think the ice is looking perfect -- maybe add some snow flurries around the crystals.



The flame could look a little more fluid... like a flamethrower.



Also -- the big crystal like explosion in the middle could use some work. The ice side looks fine, but the fire side just looks weird.
4 days later
a__
a__ on Mar 16 '10 at 9:13pm
*updated w/ newest version at top*
mitchellp
mitchellp on Mar 16 '10 at 9:59pm
I like the way the ice wizard's beard is blown backwards by the wind. However, the fire wizard's beard seems unaffected. I'd think the fire wizards hair and beard would be blown back as well.
a__
a__ on Mar 16 '10 at 10:10pm
yeah, i didn't really think about that. I pictured his beard as being pretty coarse. I can try messing around with that.
Outlaw01
Outlaw01 on Mar 16 '10 at 11:13pm
Ha! I love whats going on here now. The background shaped up nicely! Well done.
a__
a__ on Mar 16 '10 at 11:24pm
Sweet, thanks outlaw, I really appreciate all your help!
Outlaw01
Outlaw01 on Mar 16 '10 at 11:26pm
I would bring some more grass textures into the foreground and background



But I'm being nit picky now -- which probably means you're about done :)



how are you feeling about it?
a__
a__ on Mar 16 '10 at 11:31pm
I'm feeling like it's pretty much done. I might try out mitchellp's beard suggestion just to see if it makes a difference. I might do some more grass texture stuff, but I agree it could go on forever with minor tweakings. At some point it's gotta just be put away! (or so I keep telling myself)
Outlaw01
Outlaw01 on Mar 17 '10 at 6:33am
At this point it should probably be printed based on effort alone :D
soloyo
soloyo on Mar 17 '10 at 6:57am
OK this is the one thing I don't like about this design:



The point where wizards magic power seems to be coming out of , everyone is so use to the idea of wizards raising their magic wands and firing spells at their opponents that it just looks akward when you see it some other way.



and the fact that the power goes up like an extended penis doesn't help either ( there I said it ).

What if the emiting power was to travel more like the wave sounds do?
Outlaw01
Outlaw01 on Mar 17 '10 at 7:32am
I think you're over-thinking it, soloyo
mitchellp
mitchellp on Mar 17 '10 at 7:42am
Wow! Really?? It looks like a penis? Soloyo, I'm going to have to strongly disagree. Although I do think the way the fire and ice are coming out of the guitar do seem a little stiff still. I think it could be more violent looking. Coming out not just into one point but also with some going up, some riocheting off the other wizards blast, and down. The ice guitar could use soem icicles too. And the fire guitar should be glowing hot.
soloyo
soloyo on Mar 17 '10 at 8:23am
Picture of sound waves



a__
a__ on Mar 17 '10 at 2:48pm
dude soloyo, anytime anyone is shooting off a weapon it can look phallic, it's just one of those things. when people play guitar it can look like some sort of masturbatory effort. in a picture of wizards fighting using their guitars instead of their "wands", then I guess it's not gonna be fully escapable.
Outlaw01
Outlaw01 on Mar 17 '10 at 2:50pm
a__ on Mar 17 '10 at 2:48pm

dude soloyo, anytime anyone is shooting off a weapon it can look phallic, it's just one of those things. when people play guitar it can look like some sort of masturbatory effort. in a picture of wizards fighting using their guitars instead of their "wands", then I guess it's not gonna be fully escapable.




Right. Whether it's wands or guitars -- wizards always fight with magical penises. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.
a__
a__ on Mar 17 '10 at 2:51pm
thems the brakes.
mitchellp
mitchellp on Mar 17 '10 at 3:01pm
I'm excited to see how this turns out.
scenetk421
scenetk421 on Mar 17 '10 at 3:03pm
this rocks

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