you cut and pasted this blog, didn't you. DIDN'T YOU!!!!

Who keeps putting that?

The only time I ever say that (well i rarely if ever type dumbo shit like "FAIL!") is when a design is really well done, but something in the sub that is supposed to be more random (birds flying away) all look the same when they should be more realistic and in different positions or something catches my eye human-wise or whatever that really makes the piece more repetitive and takes away from the awesomeness that is the rest of it. But yeah, sometimes a piece is supposed to be like that and i agree just because a sub might have taken ten minutes, if those ten minutes turn out something amazing, then im all for it. 99 percent of the time, it doesn't.

but - working means not looking cheap

unless you're a stripper

If a project works, it doesn't matter how quick/easy or how labor intensive/time consuming it is.

The problem is that some people don't think the project works. So they offer their opinion on how it can be made better or why they didn't get it. And as an artist you should be able to not take criticism personally but as a way to improve.

hahahahahahahahahahahah Dom. Genius. hahahahahaha

im posting a comment!

LOL@ dom

i thought this blog would be about embarrassing medical conditions.

i have no opinion on this matter!

What opinion do you have about embarrassing medical conditions, though?

*shuffles feet*










*scratches butt*

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*scratches feet*

hahaa

*shuffles cards*









*scratches chalkboard*

*agrees with goldensara*

*winces at the sound of the chalkboard being scratched*

You will not take away my freedom of speech! You will not silence me!

*tries to muffle hector's voice*

I see no point to this blog, I've seen you've adressed this issue several times and I see it go nowhere. There are people that will agree or disagree with you but I doubt you'll be able to change someone's way of thinking, much less of a whole community.

Besides I think all kinds of criticism are valid as long as there's something to back them up. As long as is not something like going to a guy's sub and saying "Hey, I fucked your mom in the ass." Unless you did fuck his mom in the ass, then it's ok.

*scratches jackanapes' butt*

agree or disagree

But keep in mind this is supposed to be a creative endeavor.

photoshop filters and an endless array of copy pasted objects is what it means to be creative? shit. i've been doing it wrong all this time.

^that italicized text should have had quotation marks.

"There are people that will agree or disagree with you but I doubt you'll be able to change someone's way of thinking, much less of a whole community.

But, but, the pen's mightier than the sword! (ok, it's easier to make a sandwich and behead one's enmies with a sword but that's not the issue!)

Brilliantly and tragically, DaddyDom actually makes my point far more elquently than I.

You guys are turning me into Charlie fricken Brown. ARGH.

Yes, constructive criticism is fanfarkingtastic! Yes, an artist should use the commentary of their audience to learn and grow and blah, blah, blah. Yes, freedom of speech is just swell. BUT, would any of you have the stones to stand in a room full of art snobs and say "Hockney's a lazy-jackass-wanna-be artist -- all he did was glue some photographs together!"

NB: Hockney was just the first collagist that came to mind. This reference does not intend to endorse or otherwise discredit any individual artists works.

As a minor aside, I would like to suggest that againstbound submits "I see no point to this blog." as a slogan. As Douglas Adams once observed "the peculiar human habit of continually stating the very, very obvious..." is a common trait. We all know the very, very obvious sells shirts.

FA, I agree with your 99%, 100%

P.S. While I do not have a real bug up my butt, I once had an inch and a half long splinter just under my right buttock that I didn't know I had until it soaked out in glob of gooey puss when I was having a bath a week later.

"photoshop filters and an endless array of copy pasted objects is what it means to be creative? shit. i've been doing it wrong all this time."

Cheese and rice. Creative by definition means using whatever tools, materials, insights, inspirations, jello, chicken wire, insanity, dreams, glue, dog shit, lego, string, microchip, burlap sack or software that enables the artist to create the image/sound/object that they want to create.

Fortunately, creative isn't limited by a finely laid out palette of professional grade oil paints or a two-year commitment to a photo-realistic drawing of fruit.

And I'm sure there are even more among us who resent the level playing field created by pirated software and spare time -- the latter of which most folks busy in the real world don't have enough of.
You're saying that you don't really have time to make designs but you resent those that do? Why assume that others are using pirated software?

Jeffery Dahmer's body part shrine was super creative.

oh oops, i was thinking that the definition for 'creative' went a little something like this: resulting from originality of thought.

we'll have to agree to disagree, because i would never call what most people do with photoshop filters here 'creative'.

also though, the copy-pasting and filters issue isn't a blanket opinion - at least not for me. it can be done well but it hardly ever is. it is when a design doesn't work that you will see me comment that way.

Pah, so naive, squirrel67. I resent everyone and everything.

To write between the lines; what I'm saying is that no-one should be penalized for being quick.

"Why assume that others are using pirated software?" Because I have a brain in my head and I know that not every artist gets a student discount.

ginetteginette on Jul 08 '08 at 4:19pm
.....it can be done well but it hardly ever is. it is when a design doesn't work that you will see me comment that way.


Bingo

High Five Ontario style

WOOSH!

that sound was my hand flying towards you phiffer

Magster on Jul 08 '08 at 4:26pm
Pah, so naive, squirrel67. I resent everyone and everything.

To write between the lines; what I'm saying is that no-one should be penalized for being quick.

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Tell that to your last boyfriend. Baddumpboomcha!

ginetteginette on Jul 08 '08 at 4:33pm
that sound was my hand flying towards you phiffer]

Received!

Yeah, of course originality of thought does come into play, and so does execution -- which can mean just about anything.

If you only allow yourself to like or think highly of something that's original, you may never appreciate anything again.

Someone can paint a glorious, magnificently detailed image of fairies and elves and all manner of toadstools, that doesn't make it original.

Quick question for all: If a person spends 30 hours on a piece but it looks ike it was done with a filter, does it count?

Nice rimshot Jack.

(But I prefer it fast and intense.) ;p

Magster on Jul 08 '08 at 4:26pm
Pah, so naive, squirrel67. I resent everyone and everything.

To write between the lines; what I'm saying is that no-one should be penalized for being quick.

"Why assume that others are using pirated software?" Because I have a brain in my head and I know that not every artist gets a student discount.
You're not being penalised for being quick. You're not being penalised. You're simply not winning enough votes to get prints.
Even if some other people do have pirate software, what the hell has that to do with it? It's all about how well you can use it, not how you got it.
I may be niaeve, but I don't hold resentment for anyone, I'm too busy keeping my mind open. Stop looking to the community to find out why you're not getting printed and look to yourself. Seven designs is not that many and you're up against some VERY stiff competition.

Oh man. This isn't about me being pissy because my designs don't score that well!

I may be niaeve, but I don't hold resentment for anyone, I'm too busy keeping my mind open. Stop looking to the community to find out why you're not getting printed and look to yourself. Seven designs is not that many and you're up against some VERY stiff competition.

Good Grief (more Charlie Brown). There is nothing more frustrating than people arguing a point that has nothing to do with the initial thread of the conversation.

Squirell,your open mind was quick to judge my comments and make plenty of assumptions about my attitude and my work. And yes, "Even if some other people do have pirate software, what the hell has that to do with it? It's all about how well you can use it, not how you got it." this is my point!

All I am trying to say is that: 1.) A person is entitled to create their work however they see fit. 2.) A person is equally entitled to like/dislike, appreciate/disregard said work. 3.) If one doesn't have something nice or constructive to say they should keep their fingers off the keyboard and find a less public way of dealing with their personal issues.

"Stop looking to the community to find out why you're not getting printed..."

"Looking to the community" is the entire reason threadless exists.

"Someone can paint a glorious, magnificently detailed image of fairies and elves and all manner of toadstools, that doesn't make it original."

even an image of fairies and elves can have an original spin on it.

"If you only allow yourself to like or think highly of something that's original, you may never appreciate anything again. "

your first statement is almost right on the mark - i definitely place originality at the highest spot especially when scoring here - but you are quite wrong about me not being able to appreciate anything because of it. i love quite a lot of designs and art, and i think it's quite silly of you to have said the opposite.

also i think you have a very skewed view of what 'originality' looks like.

Ginette is now drawing a picture of elves with fairies coming out of their vaginas, and, like, wizard hats for nipples.

^^^I want that shirt.

JACK! you ruined the surprise!

"Why assume that others are using pirated software?" Because I have a brain in my head and I know that not every artist gets a student discount.

Don't count out the working man's daily struggle to make ends meet and buy software.

Sorry.

I don't know how to keep a secret.

Like how I blabbed about the tattoo of Pierre Elliott Trudeau Mezo got.




Whoops!!

Look at that face!! Look at it!!!

Hot damn!

what a handsome fellaa

it sounds like you're encouraging pirating, too...