Arrow08
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  May 09 '08 by Arrow08        69 Comments        Watch this
HILARY- I would support if she got the nomination but I would never cast my vote for her today because of the repeated attacks on Obama, latest being she saw the polls and said she was way ahead in the white working class and people who didn't attend college implying that Obama has only black and college students. She added, that he doesn't reach out enough to everyone and she can reach a wider demographic of people, haha. With what? Reaching out and having a beer isn't really saying much other then what we heard from Clinton, "I feel your pain". Clinton also stated early in the race that she knows McCain would be a strong president with experience and she has years of experience to bring to the table and Obama has a speech he gave in 02. This to me was basically an endorsement for McCain over Obama which she has since said she would support the democratic nominee if it were Obama. hmm.

OBAMA-
Heres the thing Obama is the first one I hear speak, and I think to myself, that's what I'm thinking, we do need to stop corporate companies from making mass profits and making taxing in terms to how much you make, people should not be able to make 2 billion a year when someone is living in a car because they couldn't afford medical surgery. Also Obama's speech about race in America to me as a mixed race individual was on par with how I imagine people felt in the 60's for King, people keep saying he is Black or not black enough or a secret Muslim lol, whatever, that doesn't matter, he is Barak Obama, what matters is his character and his stance of issues. He never voted for Iraq war, Hilary not only did but refused to acknowledge it as a mistake.

MCCAIN
Then we have big guns McCain, to the question of Bush seeing us over there for 50 more years, McCain said. "heh, why not a 100". Also to those that don't know McCain originally voted to not have MLK recognized on MLK day, later he changed his vote and said the reason he voted that way before is because when he was growing up, in a small town there were not many black people around and then in the military he just wasn't exposed to the civil rights movement but has since talked to many people about him and agrees that he was a great man and deserves the highest. But would we really want a president who simply cries ignorance? I can't even buy that he didn't know of MLK. McCain equals more of the same. But to be clear, I think McCain is a great guy, a war hero in his day. But lets face it, his day was a long time ago. Things are changing fast and I don't think he could keep up. Or offer anything in terms of an alternative to Bush.

MORE OBAMA-
Obama equals a chance at revolutionizing the world we live in, I know he stands for justice and peace. No war, decriminalization of marijuana, he stands for being open minded to differences ie race, gender, income ect. But more importantly he makes me feel some kinda something for the possibility that politics with the right person could make a huge difference, like back with JFK. I have hope that he will stand up for health care even though he receives money form the corrupt insurance co's, just as with Hilary and everyone else in politics for that matter which is no excuss, it's bull. I hope that he ends the war immediately. I hope a lot of things, but it's Obama that has given that, no other.

NADER
But that does bring us to Nader. I agree with Nader, we need a single parent health care system, like Canada and 41 other industrialized nations and corps should be capped, a more socialized movement only makes sense when we see such a huge gap between rich and poor, middle class is slipping into poor status. But this is a 180 turn around and the powers that be will try anything to make it not happen and most others are afraid that it's not possible for Nader to run against the big D and R money-wise. Plan ahead and grow support and funding then he could have a chance, but right now I very much think he will be taking votes that would be going to Obama or democratic nominee and after 2 elections and 8 years of Bush I don't want to see another Bush I mean McCain in office because Nader wasn't patient and didn't recongize the need for unity now to prevent us from moving backward. So I say, Nader, not yet. This step first then when people see the possibilities and that they made it happen, they won't vote out of fear but based solely on the issues.

RON PAUL
Ron Paul, he is an isolationist, supports reversing Roe vs Wade and has no plans on changing the health care system we have now, as an ex-doctor he stronly supports life begining at conception. Paul stated to expect hand outs ie: social security and health care is pointless because the government doesn't have that money, but he fails to say what would happen if the trillion dollar war ended, what it would do for funding a universal health care plan. But there is one good thing, he doesn't support the war and wants pot legal. I can't really look past the massive movement for him supporting everyone having a gun and the roe/wade issue along with no health care change idea for pot being legal and a war ending. Not to mention Ron Paul had very racist comments made years ago that really disturbed me, then there was him standing next to Nixon, a lot of bad for him, and I think he confuses voters into supporting him because of the anti war and pro pot issue.


WRAP UP
If you don't usually vote or don't know yet who for, take time to listen to whole speeches, read about these people and why they think you should vote for them. Be fully informed and check facts out for yourself. Then vote, if you don't vote or vote based on the surface of politics, you really have no reason to complain. I dunno, what do you all think, who should it be? Why? I say OB in 08!


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SoulfumeInc
SoulfumeInc on May 09 '08 at 1:51pm
huge block of text = instant back button
tracerbullet
   tracerbullet on May 09 '08 at 1:52pm
move your pinky finger two keys to the right and press
ginetteginette
ginetteginette on May 09 '08 at 1:56pm
hate to repeat, but without paragraph breaks there is no way i can read that.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 09 '08 at 2:58pm
Sorry bout that, I broke it up though. All good?
Eskimo_Breckyn
Eskimo_Breckyn on May 11 '08 at 2:56pm
Wow. Still pretty long, Aaron. :/
Sorry.
NJz Kollectionz
NJz Kollectionz on May 11 '08 at 8:10pm
OBAMA!!!
PuterBoy
PuterBoy on May 11 '08 at 9:17pm
Well said.
gotMOXY
gotMOXY on May 11 '08 at 9:20pm
glassbooth.org
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 12 '08 at 10:40am
Eskimo- hmm well I could bring it down more but it's all important to me. So I can't do that, if you want to read then cool if not, word.

Right on NJz! Right on.

Thanks PuterBoy, for the first time I'm really into this thing thinking I might not be disappointed.

MOXY- cool site, I got 81% similar to Nader. 72% Obama.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 14 '08 at 1:00am
still too much to absorb huh?
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 14 '08 at 1:01am
Well, it's all good.
tikitoaster
tikitoaster on May 14 '08 at 1:09am
I would be more inclined to vote for Obama if he wasn't a Freemason. I don't trust any of those secret society twats. He could very well be the person the establishment wants us to think is the answer when in reality he supports the New World Order.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on May 14 '08 at 1:18am
im sorry, but your views on obama are hilarious. sure, he may have some social experiences that not everyone has endured. but his 'spiritual advisor' is more racist than anyone i know.


EricDiaz
EricDiaz on May 14 '08 at 1:22am
tikitoaster knows what's going on! After watching the Revolution will not be Televised, it's all a conspiracy i tells ya!
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on May 14 '08 at 1:24am
i'm pretty sure evryone of our presidents has belonged to a secret order of some type
squatterjohn
squatterjohn on May 14 '08 at 3:54am
JFK wasn't.

That's why they had him killed.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 14 '08 at 5:02pm
Hmm interesting. Well heres the thing, I have uncles and friends who are crazier then that pastor, they don't represent me. Not to mention when I was young I went to a church n didn't agree with a lot of what the pastors said, they said what they though respresented their view of religion. So I think that's unfair link. Obama has character to me and on issues of quality and income and war I agree, health care almost. But I think he represents a possiblity for more open mindedness and to change this standard media questions into honest discussions. I hope he sits down with Nader, Nader will bring up the tough issues that both Hilary, Obama and McCain step around.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 14 '08 at 6:41pm
There was a time when a third party won, it was when the two main parties supported slavery, not since then have we seen a blip from third parties besides Nader in 2000. And now, Nader has the right ideas, one single parent health care system being the main difference. I think Nader has the right to run but honestly I gotta support Obama because I think he is the path to change, the path to more radical ideas. That's what politics needs, that's what America needs. To build to a better America, we need unity.
bhoomika
bhoomika on May 14 '08 at 6:46pm

And I would vote for Hillary Clinton! And I don't know why democratic party is telling her to continue because she has WON ALL The BIG states! She has won the big states and the swing states.

Anyways, All I know is that people are just high on Obama right now but they'll soon realize that he is only good for speeches and that's it.

shirtflirt
shirtflirt on May 15 '08 at 1:49am
I have uncles and friends who are crazier then that pastor, they don't represent me. Not to mention when I was young I went to a church n didn't agree with a lot of what the pastors said, they said what they though respresented their view of religion.

that's not really a good argument but i'll play along.just on the surface, you cannot choose who your uncles are. spiritual advisors, those who preside over your wedding and speak to the masses are individuals who would otherwise speak into the void unless people chose to listen to them, and turn other people onto them, as barrack did.

barrack offers....hope? hope in what exactly? hope that things change based on what? it is ever hopeful and sadly naive to really think any political system will set anyone free. political systems are not for the people, they're for the people who are part of the system.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 15 '08 at 2:25am
First bhoomika- What is a swing state? This is language of mass media. Hilary has won in some states but popular vote and super D's have gone to Obama so far. So for her to continue to run a in debt campaign seems messed up to me. Hilary has recently stated her support for whoever is on the big D ticket, but if we rewind she stated early on. "I have years of experience to bring to the presidency and I know Senator McCain has years of experience, and I know Obama has a inspirational speech he gave in 2002." This is basically a endorsement for McCain, how is she not explaining this?

shirtflirt-
If you have someone you listen to at church does not mean you adapt their beliefs. Even a spiritual adviser you take with gains of salt unless they have somehow hypnotized you. Which happens. lol Everyone has a filter, have you not considered that Obama simply did not agree with his pastor on the "20 second sound bite about damning America." Why should he automatically be linked in with him? And if we are going to do this, take a look at McCain's close friends in the church, listen to their speeches. Oh, also did you know that the pastor, Wright was Clinton's marital spiritual adviser? You might not know because Obama failed to make it a public deal, he is not pitty.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on May 15 '08 at 2:29am
to be quite honest, i'm leery of any political leader siding with any religious group. inevitably, it creates division no matter how much the politican preaches hope.
i'm enormously disappointed with all the candidates that remain.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 15 '08 at 2:40am
I think church and state should be separate, what you personally believe in terms on spirituality is between you and god, science, buddha whatever. How to help a country is on a humanistic level. Meaning how to best help the people, health, living wages, corporate greed and war are the big things I want a president to deal with. Obama is not overly religious, he stated his beliefs but he does not push it, unlike lets say Mitt Romney or many other republicans. Nader is another one that I hear no religious overtone, even Hilary doesn't over do it. It shouldn't be an issue, which is why the whole pastor thing with Obama makes me so pissed, it's pity, distracting from the real issues and frankly just a sad show.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on May 15 '08 at 2:51am
it sounds like your an obama guy and that's cool.
i see one candidate full of rhetoric
one candidate clinging to teh current administration of fear
and another candidate running on a prayer


minxorjinx
minxorjinx on May 15 '08 at 2:53am
OB in 08? yay for coochie!
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 15 '08 at 3:04am
Are you saying Obam is all rhetoric? I have heard no pres or runner speak on race like he did. If that's rhetoric then it's mastered to look like passion for an issue that America continues to face. There is one issue Obama is off for me and that's health care, I want a universal plan. What is plans is for more affrodable which is better then what I got now, Hilary is the same but McCain has no plan as with the rest of republicans and ron Paul. Nader is the only runner for a single parent health care system. If he got the exposure he deserves you better bet he would be elected. But I voted for him in 2000 and was disappointed with the turn out, then in 2004 I thought kerry seemed better then the bull Bush got us into. After that point I just got depressed about it, there are so many negative things that have happened since Bush to this nation. And even though I know Nader has the solution, I also know that most Americans the way I hear them speak, are not ready for that turn around. But if they elect Obama I think that's at least on the path. Then again, it was one time since now that America voted for the thrid party and that was a party that didn't support slavery. It would be an amazing moment in American history. To see unity and a real step forward, away from war, towards health care for all and living wages, green energy ect.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 15 '08 at 3:10am
coochie?
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on May 15 '08 at 3:18am
the only candidate i've heard oppose the war and wants to pull out of all international debacles was R. Paul.
and the way the media treated him with his air time leads me to believe that his 'crazy idea's' are what we need; especially economically.
have you ever lived somewhere that has a universal/social medical plan? there's plenty of give and take in that system as well as the one that is run by insurance companies now.
and no, i didn't say barrack was all rhetoric.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 15 '08 at 1:45pm
Not quite, Nader supports withdraw now. Also don't listen to mass media about him. Go online and watch his speeches, read his writtings throughout his career. PAul is a racist, supports anti-abortion. The only reason I think he appeals is his view on less governement. But yes, we all want our privacy, but we all NEED our gov to use our money wisely, that I believe includes police, firemen, and health care, all dealing with security and safety. Even if there is give and take in a social medicine plan, it's better then when getting sick, thinking about a bill. If you pay with taxes, you pay how much your income allows in a universal system, meaning richer pay more and poor less. I think that makes sense because it looks out for everyone. The rich have nothing to worry about, just won't be able to buy 5 cars instead, just 3, and not 3 houses, but 1 or 2. But on the other side, many more people will be able to get care and not morgage their homes or file for bankruptcy. Sorry, I musta misread the rhetoric statement.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 15 '08 at 1:50pm
I am dealing with this now with my girlfriend's teeth. The insurance has a cap, she needs emergency care, most every place we go to either won't do the insurance we have or they can't do emergency care, some assume we are paying out of pocket. She might lose her tooth, it sucks to see her in pain and see these places all about profits and the ablity to pay, if we could afford it, it would have been done years ago. The health system only helps rich. Doctors even get incentives for turning down patients. It's not fair.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on May 15 '08 at 2:21pm
fair? are you serious? lose a tooth? that's hardly life-threatening or an emergency. sure, she's in pain. i hear that.
paul is anti- federal governement deciding on things like abortion. if you read him, you'll see paul supports local governments deciding for abortion in their areas, not a federally madated thing; it shouldn't be legal or illegal, federally, i totally agree with paul and that doesn't make me pro life, if anything, it's extremely pro choice.

so i assume you've never lived anywhere that has social/universal care?
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 15 '08 at 4:16pm
heres the thing buddy, to have separation, isolationism, means that if you are liberal and live in alabama and your state decides abortion illegal, reversing roe vs wade, and all that progress means people will be forced to move, to lets so cali, creating overpopulation in areas. Why shouldn't the governement say, abortion is horrible but if you have to do it you have the choice, that makes sense considering the alternative we saw in the sixties.
Also, it's more serious then just a tooth, just don't want to get more into it. SO yes, it's unfair that we have not been able to get the care because of money and the system for profit we live in.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 15 '08 at 5:23pm
Also if your being extremely pro-choice, wouldn't forcing many that live in states that would decide it illegal, be taking that choice away? Pro choice is not about allowing some states to say it's legal or illegal, it's about making sure that women have the right anywhere in America to choice what is best for their body, I don't like abortion, in fact I think adoption is better, but there are cases even in which going through giving birth could kill the mother, she should be able to say she doesn't want to die.

To answer me living in a universal system, I have not, but that doesn't mean I don't understand the realities of it and see and read examples of it. The fact is that more then 41 other industrialized countries besides the US has the universal health system, and they all have a lower death rate then us, and a lower infant mortality rate, doesn't it say something when one of the richest nations has some of the poorest health stats? Like I said before a system that runs for profit in terms of health forces corruption on it's workers because they have to think of cost before care. When we have incentives like in Europe and Canada for more care bringing bonuses then I believe it makes for better care and more people cared for, isn't that a good thing?

These are just my opinions though.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 15 '08 at 7:23pm
Gi bill passed today in the House, next up Senate. But since it wasn't 2/3's Bush could veto it. McCain tried a derail of it. Why would someone who served in the military, experienced torture not want veterans supplied with the proper care?
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on May 15 '08 at 9:53pm
here's a hint; our national health problem has very little to do with the actual health system and more to do with the schizoid, paranoid culture of shit we're currently enveloped in.
overpopulation due to abortion 'legality' is really a long shot. i mean really, do you think someone would move cross country for a procedure or maybe just fly where it is legal, like gambling is in vegas.
Sir_Minimus
Sir_Minimus on May 15 '08 at 10:14pm
i have health care. full coverage. and i have a job that provides me that. this may sound terrible, but i would feel cheated if everyone had the same healthcare that i have to work for.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on May 15 '08 at 11:29pm
i have excellent health care as well
that i pay into
through a union that took a long time to establish themselves and fought for the things i now enjoy
but i wouldn't feel cheated, i wouldn't care or be bothered bc i can take of me and my family.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 16 '08 at 6:10pm
Heres the thing, it's great that working hard usually pays off but in times of sickness we shouldn't have to wonder who covers our insurance, and how much our insurance will cover. I think everyone should pay into a universal system because the idea of having to pay a bill or co/pay that is hundreds if not thousands makes no sense. Having a baby and then paying a bill, it's unheard of in Canada. Insurance co's have the right in a competitive market to raise prices of drugs, the right to deny treatment for any number of reasons, pre-exsisting conditions ect. There are bonuses for insurance employees and doctors to turn away care because it saves them money, don't you think health care should be about care not money? Yes we need money to run it but that can all be taken care of as we do for police and firemen.

shirtflirt- our health system problems are due to paranoia? hmm I dunno but I think wondering why we are one of the worlds wealthiest nations and one of the poorest in health death rates and infant mortality makes me think the way to run health for profit just as we do with food marts should be questioned. To have companies compete makes sense in a free market that is offering products, why is health a product to buy? I think in life there are things even if you work hard your whole life that can put you in the financial situation of not being able to afford care, and that's not right. Unless you are really wealthy America's health system doesn't work for you.
As far as going across state to get an abortion. noone should have to do that. It's not right.
Stan Gable
Stan Gable on May 16 '08 at 6:17pm
longwinded much
xiv
   xiv on May 16 '08 at 6:39pm
Obama is going to pull the race card soon or later. I live in the south, and hear enough of that black power bull shit already.

and if McCain was elected, he'd probably die before his second year.
xiv
   xiv on May 16 '08 at 6:40pm
...and a huge part of my post seems to have vanished.
Stan Gable
Stan Gable on May 16 '08 at 8:20pm
thats b/c nobody is interested in ur hatespeech
take your southern white trash, cut-off jean short wearing, Natural Ice drinkin ass somewhere.
I think we should offer to give the south to mexico, but I doubt they'd want it
professorE
professorE on May 16 '08 at 8:25pm
Dude, I live in the south, and apparently the Mexicans do want it. They are everywhere...
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on May 16 '08 at 10:14pm
dude, arrow, if you want to converse you have to read what i type and understand it. did i mention the health system was due to paranoia? or did i say the general level of health among americans? it's the same thing with the rhetoric statement; you see something that goes against what you believe and react with premeditated retorts rather than reading, taking a second to let it sit, and then replying.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 17 '08 at 1:37am
shirt - I might have misread and you could be somewhat on base, good thing I'm not running for the next president, we've seen enough of premeditated attacks. But we agree, as long as you can take care of your family it's all good.

xiv - what kinda race card would that be, the mixed race card?
Dunno what happened to the post but meh. I think McCain might make it through to the election, he just might do it. Just look at Cheny.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 17 '08 at 1:53pm
Stan - hilarious! Natural ice drinkin ass.

That kinda ignorance you are spitting xiv is dangerous.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on May 17 '08 at 2:54pm
that's really all that matters; taking care of your family. just think what would happen if everyone did that?

....


yeah it would be a pretty good world.
Arrow08
Arrow08 on May 17 '08 at 3:03pm
But lets not forget, shit happens. Sometimes the hardest working people taking care of the fam get into financial binds. External things happen, funerals, heart attacks, sickness car accidents ect. And I just think it's only fair to the hard working and the unlucky, basically everyone to have the chance to get the health taken care of through taxes just as we expect no bill for a fire being put out or police helping people in danger.
17 days later
Arrow08
Arrow08 on Jun 03 '08 at 11:06pm
OBAMA is the first non-white male nominee for the democratic primary. I saw the speeches, and I gotta say, there is one thing I know, the issues, the character he showed didn't seem like any politician I have hear.

Hilary sounded selfish but more confident then in any other speech, McCain he was just uncomfortable to watch and worse to listen to, shaking and stopping for awkward smiles after bashing Obama repeatedly with reference to Obama's campaign slogan. It was a sad case of classic republican talk of less gov is best, and the government he wants is one that trusts American people to be self reliant. But doesn't he agree that police and firemen are helpful? They are a gov. run service and I think they should be, just like health care. McCain tried to say Obama of all people has the real old policies but McCain has voted with Bush in the last 5 years 95% of the time with Bush, how can he then say he he is progressive or different in any sense?

Obama is not a perfect person but he inspires me and has the most realistic and progressive ideals I hear. He represents what I see as the best person to move America in a new direction, in the direction of universal health care, of actual living wages, taxing the rich more then the poor, taxing corps higher, making equality of all kinds a prime issue for reform. It's a million times better then 100 more years of occupation in Iraq.

In Obama's speech he even went on and on about how great Hilary is not because she is a woman but because of what she has done so far and he invited her to be involved, but she did not, she only mentioned that she is happy with Obama's efforts.
As for everyone talking about Michigan and Florida being fair, counting every vote. Voting is suppose to be a fair system to elect the best based on the people and who the people elect in their states to rep them. But if a state does not have a runner on the ballet then that is unfair, how can Hilary want those (even though she got half) when Obama wasn't even on the ticket?

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