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JiuNoon
JiuNoon aka J K is 30.2 years old, has been a member since August 10, 2004, has scored 4077 submissions, giving an average score of 1.75.
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  May 03 '05 by JiuNoon        10 Comments        Watch this      Share:  Share on facebook    Share on delicious    Share on digg    Share on MySpace    Tweet this    Stumble this    Share this on Kaboodle   
Okay, Goatse shirt and all else aside, why's everyone gotta hate on MS Paint? I mean, how many times have we seen "This looks like it was made in 10 minutes in MS Paint"? I have seen people say a shirt looked like it was made in MS Paint, then given positive feedback to shirts that LITERALLY look like they were done in programs without advanced smoothing.

As someone who can't afford a tablet and who has grown a hatred toward scanners, MS Paint and a mouse are two of my only tools. Granted, I know there are people who don't like my stuff and have said they looked like I put no effort in, but my two highest rated shirts - It's As Easy As That and Zombie Teddy - were both done in MS Paint.

So hate the end result if you want but, please, don't hate MS Paint.


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KEMMLER
KEMMLER on May 03 '05 at 8:30pm
Word to that. I've never gotten a well-scored shirt made in mspaint, but really if you take something originally drawn in mspaint and do some treatment in PS then there's nothing to distinguish it from your average hand-drawn design. I stand by my respect of mspaint. It's simple, with few features, but it does what it does properly. The reason people hate on it is they associate it with a lot of poor stuff done in it. It's not that the tool is bad, it's just that the vast majority of stuff done in mspaint is bad.
PATRICKwMORGAN
PATRICKwMORGAN on May 04 '05 at 9:16am
I love MS Paint. How did you make your designs from there look so smooth? Zombie Teddy and Easy as That look really really smooth. Just wondering how you achieved that look with MS Paint.
MrDomino
   MrDomino on May 04 '05 at 9:34am
MS Paint is just a tool. It's no different than a hammer or a wrench. All that matters is what you do with it. The problem in the digital revolution is that now every Tom, Dick, and Harry has access to the same tools that designer's used to hold exclusively. Combine that with the hordes of people who can dissect your work and replicate it cosmetically in a handy tutorial and graphic brush set, and a lot of people will turn their nose up at something that bears the scent of undisciplined work.

At the end of the day, if your work is good enough it won't matter that it was done in MS Paint. But it might matter to the printers who have to convert your work to silkscreens if you get something printed. As a verteran of screenprinting, I would probably not print your work on principle, because a great deal of it would have to be re-created in Illustrator or Photoshop just to get a workable image.

To that end, it's open source, it's free, it's effective: http://gimp.org/
JiuNoon
JiuNoon on May 04 '05 at 11:31am
PATRICK - While I don't deny that I put everything through Flash to prepare them for Threadless, those two shirts were so smooth because the initial bitmaps were huge. Each one of those hands in It's As Easy As That is its own bitmap and were created on a full-screen window. I also use the paintbrush tool more than the pencil or line tools because it creates a smoother look even though it's still just a mess of pixels.
mezo
   mezo on May 04 '05 at 12:27pm
I hate unintentional pixelation...aka MSPaint.
MrDomino
   MrDomino on May 04 '05 at 12:40pm
Wait wait, if you have Flash there's no excuse for random pixelation. Use the bezier curves to fix all those lines.
MrDomino
   MrDomino on May 04 '05 at 12:40pm
Wait wait, if you have Flash there's no excuse for random pixelation. Use the bezier curves to fix all those lines.
JiuNoon
JiuNoon on May 04 '05 at 12:44pm
Short answer: The computer I draw on doesn't have Flash and the computer that has Flash is a laptop so I'm stuck with the touchpad which is a real pain to do anything but small details with.

Beside that, I'm just saying that there's no reason to hate MS Paint. I mean, as far as I'm concerned, a clean MS Paint sketch is better than a dirty PS/Illustrator image - even if there is some pixelation. But maybe that's just me.
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HappyWaccoon
HappyWaccoon on Jul 16 '05 at 10:26pm
Funny...



You told me that you'd *rather* criticism.



Delicious irony.
zimm
zimm on Jul 16 '05 at 10:58pm
i don't have a problem with ms paint.......

in fact, i've seen some very good work done with it that would rival works done in illustrator or any other vector program..

but i have to agree with a previous comment that was made regarding the workability of it when it came to screen printing

it's not what you use, it's how you use it.....
and btw.........you seen to know how to use it pretty decently
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