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This is the lamest reason for bringing it up, but I've been presently made aware that Kelly Osborne is calling Christina Aguilera a fat c-word because Christina used to call Kelly fat. Who gives a shit, outside of the fact that it's weird to me that someone who used to have weight problems is being a bitch. I'd expect her to have sympathy.

Then I just started thinking about all of the comment wars about weight on the internets and wanted to get some respectful, nonanonymous opinions about it.

I have been a bit chunky before. My weight tends to yo-yo a bit anyway, but always in the healthy range for my height. For a time there, I was not, though. And for me, personally it was something I did ultimately have control over. I was a very depressed person at the time so I had zero motivation, but it's pretty easy for me to tip the eaten calorie to burned calorie ratio in my favor.

That being said, I am pretty educated about food, compared to the normal person. I grew up in a home that cared about nutrition and how to eat right. So even when I was poor, I knew how to make nutritious meals for myself for relatively little. I also have had a car and access to grocery stores. Some people live in food deserts, meaning that the only source of food in their neighborhoods are convenience stores and fast food restaurants.

What is your experience with weight or your opinion about it?

I think it goes without saying, be respectful here, okay? Please? :)
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WarDrobeInSpareOom
WarDrobeInSpareOom on Oct 17 '11 at 11:40am
There are so many other things to say about Christina Aguilera. Such as the fact that her make-up regularly looks like a clown whore and she dresses like white trash and makes annoying music and what was the question?
skindapple
skindapple on Oct 17 '11 at 11:41am
i can respectfully admit that you are so fine!
lol
:)
skindapple
skindapple on Oct 17 '11 at 11:44am
famous people are ridiculous, idiotic, and disappointing...for the most part...they are given every opportunity to be awesome role models and to lead/live by example...but they almost all fail epicly!
spacesick
   spacesick on Oct 17 '11 at 11:44am
last year I had lost 70 pounds and was halfway to my sexy goal weight when I got lazy, and stopped watching what I ate.

but I'm ready to get back on the road to fitness! I'm sick of not being able to wear the fashionable clothes I want to. this star needs to shine!
Ryder Revolution
   Ryder Revolution on Oct 17 '11 at 11:46am
i weigh 207

most people think i weigh 180

but i still go to the gym twice a day
spacesick
   spacesick on Oct 17 '11 at 11:48am
also weight isn't an issue to me with women

it's what's on the inside that counts. and whether or not they want to sleep with me.
skindapple
skindapple on Oct 17 '11 at 11:56am
the BloodHound Gang said it best:

My last girlfriend didn't like me thought she might be
most likely a dyke she just didn't excite me,
Lefty? ya, but that was alright,
She was hotter than the sun, but she just wasn't that bright
My mistake she was more flakey than a leper colony
I think a wooden clothespin would have been much better company
Ass like donkey acting funky gave her "L" now she's a flunky
So my love for her died quicker than a batch of sea monkeys
Early bird gets the worm spread your legs or spread the word
So what if I'm not he smartest peanut in the turd
I'm white which goes with everything but I can come in any colour
And I'm looking for the kind of girl that reminds me of my mother
But it's hard to find a girl with a viper tattooed on her tushy
And how many girls do you know that can play the harmonica with their pussies?
Like em easy and hot and sweet like a Rice Krispy Treat, gee
You know what I really want in a girl? Me.
rhythmdev9
rhythmdev9 on Oct 17 '11 at 11:58am
what mitch just said is exact same situation for me, i've been back on it for the last 4 weeks, I'm down another 10lbs...This is the thinest I've ever been, but I still feel fat.

I think weight is on going struggle for 85% of the population its just in different proportions.

Twiggyhall
Twiggyhall on Oct 17 '11 at 11:58am
Ugh. This is a very sore subject for me.


I have to literally starve myself to lose any weight (eat no more than 900-1000 calories) and even then, it's a very slow process. I lost about 60 pounds, which is great, but I have a lot of very ugly, loose skin (on my stomach and arms especially, but also my thighs) that won't go away with diet and (a LOT of) exercise alone. I want to get surgery to take care of it, but it's very, very expensive.

I want to lose about 2 more sizes and get rid of the extra skin and then I think I would be pretty satisfied.
Chipmnk
Chipmnk on Oct 17 '11 at 11:59am
I used to be a little chubby. Not really enough to be a health concern but enough that I was self-conscious when I had my shirt off.

Ever since college, I've been hovering between healthy and underweight, usually closer to the latter.

I think it's important to be healthy, but I also think body image tends to be a fairly personal thing. Being comfortable in your own skin and all that.
ecsu
   ecsu on Oct 17 '11 at 11:59am
i've always been chubby-to-fat kid/guy. Always been softly bullied but never gave a shite about it.... as for women (which would be the main issue while being a straight guy) i've had problems until i realized i should really pay more attention to what i had to say more than what i had to show and things started to hit off. and the only reason why i actually lost a few pounds was to avoid becoming a sick person...
Twiggyhall
Twiggyhall on Oct 17 '11 at 12:05pm
Being comfortable in your own skin and all that.


This is the key point for me. I'm really, REALLY unhappy and uncomfortable as an overweight person.

Basically, it's like fun, happy, cute Jen is trapped inside a fat monster :(
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 17 '11 at 12:08pm
Big girls are all good.
thirteendaisies
thirteendaisies on Oct 17 '11 at 12:13pm
I used to have no problems with weight. Then around age 28 or 29 every time I stepped on a scale I'd gained a couple pounds. Then after about twenty pounds it stopped, and regardless of what I eat or how much I exercise it pretty much stays the same.
ecsu
   ecsu on Oct 17 '11 at 12:20pm
Being comfortable in your own skin and all that.


This is the key point for me. I'm really, REALLY unhappy and uncomfortable as an overweight person.

Basically, it's like fun, happy, cute Jen is trapped inside a fat monster :(


You know what? you should be... cuz being overweight is no fun. REALLY no fun. i say that as an overweight person and have been my whole life. And not just for vanity issues but in life.... it's not confortable not fitting or unconrtably fitting somewhere or something...

It's not... but i'm not going drastically looking at it. that last statement of yours is not correct... you shouldn't look at it that way.

Look at it more confidently. Think that there's an ideal you... and it's nor fat nor thin... it's just balanced. it's just you. And when you reach that, just stick with it...
Kookaberry
   Kookaberry on Oct 17 '11 at 12:21pm
skindapple on Oct 17 '11 at 11:41am
i can respectfully admit that you are so fine!
lol
:)


Thank god, now I can get on with my day ;P

I'm actually skinnier than I am in that picture. That's an old picture. I have no concerns about self image. I'm more curious about people's perspective on barriers for people being the weight they want to be (whatever that happens to be).

Twiggy - that sucks. It's like "I worked so hard but still...bleh." I feel like medical insurance should cover the skin thing since people losing a lot of weight are likely saving them money in the long run. Preventive care prizes?
nonbloggerholly
nonbloggerholly on Oct 17 '11 at 12:24pm
i used to have no problems at ll, i had an awesome metabolism, but then after i moved out of my moms house i was too poor to eat and got to be under 100lbs, since i got back to normal eating habits i found that putting my body into that starvation mode for so long has completely trashed my metabolism. I would actually need to work to be at a size i want, i've just started and hope to lose about 15lbs. It's extra hard now that i live in suburbs and lead a mostly sedentary lifestyle :-/
Manupix
Manupix on Oct 17 '11 at 12:24pm
The notion of food deserts opens fascinating avenues for thought.
squintygirl
squintygirl on Oct 17 '11 at 12:25pm
I gained a lot of weight when I was pregnant and lost almost none of it. My husband always says, 'Don't worry, you just had a baby!' but I just had a baby almost four years ago. Losing weight never seems possible for me unless I starve myself, and I'm not willing to go down that road again. Despite being unhappy with the flab, I'm still proud of my body and all the cool stuff it's done for me.
Lahar
Lahar on Oct 17 '11 at 12:26pm
Following a falling out with a friend last spring, I got more depressed than usual and developed an eating disorder. I thought I was actually being healthy as I was buying lots of fruits and vegetables and rarely eating out, and walking a lot (along the seawall in the sunny weather was 50 minutes each way to and from work). But I guess I wasn't getting enough carbs and protein, and I did sometimes skip eating if I was feeling down in the evening and would just go to bed with an empty stomach.

The disturbing thing is that I liked losing weight and getting skinny. It was something I was doing, was the visible result of something I was doing. Like, I can't control my behaviour towards others, couldn't keep myself from being a c-word, or whether other guys find me attractive. But I could control my weight and see the change, and that control over something in my life was what I liked.

Then I saw in pictures how bad it was. At my worst I was 113 lbs (5'6") and I really did look sick. I didn't know how to ask for help but followed the example of a couple of friends, who supported me, and I joined the gym, idea being that working out, developing display muscles, and at least getting protein afterwards would start to have me eating properly. As time went on, clothes and especially threadless shirts were fitting me better. So that was good.

Physically I'm OK now but I could probably do with being on meds for other issues.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Oct 17 '11 at 12:34pm
"Manupix on Oct 17 '11 at 12:24pm
The notion of food deserts opens fascinating avenues for thought."

much better to fantasize about living in one than actually living in one.
ivejustquitsmoking
   ivejustquitsmoking on Oct 17 '11 at 12:36pm
I think working towards an ideal weight is something you have to do for yourself and not as how others see you. You can be thin right now aspiring to gain weight, or a bit chubby now working to weigh less, it's great to have a goal. But at the moment, you just have to be confident and happy with how you are.

On personal note, I've always wish I can be gain more mass, and it's a lot of work in progress. But I don't need to reach that weight goal to be happy with myself :)
Twiggyhall
Twiggyhall on Oct 17 '11 at 12:39pm
@ ecsu: I know. And believe me, you're not the first person by a long shot to have told me that. :)

But it's my honest feelings. I hate the difference in how bigger people are treated compared to smaller people.

I'd love to have more confidence, but I know I won't feel like me again until I lose the rest of this weight.


@ Amy: Seriously. It's so frustrating to work so hard and not get the results you know you deserve. I have been going to 2 gyms (1 at lunch, 1 at nighttime) during the weekdays for almost 2 years now and at this point, I'm just feeling angry. I know I'm working hard, too.

Meh.
Chipmnk
Chipmnk on Oct 17 '11 at 12:41pm
I actually have to work to keep myself from getting underweight. A few months back, I was trying to save money by eating less, so I pretty much starved myself for a couple weeks. On top of that, I was working out just about every day, so my metabolism was in overdrive. I ended up losing a little over 10 pounds just within those two weeks. Given how small I already am, that totally put my body through the wringer.
spacesick
   spacesick on Oct 17 '11 at 12:45pm
sometimes I make jokes, sometimes
rhythmdev9
rhythmdev9 on Oct 17 '11 at 12:48pm
When I was on my first swing of dieting and working out (the one where I lost 70lbs) a few people said they were worrying about me, that i was losing it too fast and stuff. I got real defensive, I was like... I'm achieving this shit, get off my back. I know I was doing it the healthy, way I just finally figured out the right combo to actually be effective for me.
skindapple
skindapple on Oct 17 '11 at 12:55pm
@Kookaberry: ya, no problem! most of my compliments can change the entire outlook and experience one can have in a day, so you should be set and good to go on this wonderful monday! haha, no case of the mondays for you! skinny or skinnier, new pic or old pic, i'm not concerned about your self image either...because you look real good!

we are all individuals, unique in our own way, and everyone of us has problems. the goal in life is to be happy, some of us have to work harder than others to be happy, but as long as you're doing everything in your power to be happy...then i'm happy for you! skinny or fat, problems are problems, but luckily for us...people have individual perspectives and interests that keeps the world spinning! for each his/her own...don't float your boat on troubled waters...don't let bad winds direct your sail!
ecsu
   ecsu on Oct 17 '11 at 12:59pm
@ twiggy

yeah. i get what you're saying and could totally expect that i wasn't the first person that said such thing to you....

the only thing i can add is: if you know that you'll be better when you lose all that extra you still feel you got, do it. never give up... never. :)
Twiggyhall
Twiggyhall on Oct 17 '11 at 1:03pm
Thanks, ecsu :) I appreciate your thoughts, I really do.

You could say, this is my big hang-up in life and it'll always be a struggle for me, so while I'm used to dealing with it, I'll never grow to like it!

I haven't given up hope that someday I'll be able to reach my goal. I really, really hope it can be someday soon.
bcrider
bcrider on Oct 17 '11 at 2:41pm
I was a twiggy kid, but always taller than all the kids. Therefore, I was 'bigger'. Cue body image issues at age 7.

I look back at pictures of myself and I look absolutely normal. Not skinny, not fat. Yet, I was constantly told I was fat by lots of people, though none of them were family.

My junior year I dated a guy. He was a bad guy. Without going into detail, I ended up gaining a ton of weight and remained about 20 pounds overweight until I got married. Then the weight slowly crept on until I was 30 pounds overweight. Then I had kids.

By August of 2006 I weighed 325 pounds (I'm 5'9"). I saw a photo of myself with my daughters at our state fair and nearly died. I felt sorry for myself until that November, when my sister was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. I decided I didn't have the right to be unhealthy when my sister didn't have a CHOICE.

Since then I've lost 80 pounds. It's been a slow progression because I have fibromyalgia and a few other related issues. I now have to stop attempting to lose weight and just be healthy because I'm pregnant, but once the baby is born I'll continue my path.

I don't think I look any different now than I did in 2006. My doc assumes I have body dysmorphic disorder. The point is, I know my husband will be honest with me and how he sees me is sort of my mirror.
bcrider
bcrider on Oct 17 '11 at 2:41pm
Damn I tend to ramble.
mike bautista
mike bautista on Oct 17 '11 at 3:01pm
I've gotten fat this past year, and it's really upset me. I used to be reasonably fit. I still had some fat, but I had muscle. A lot of what I did in high school and some college required it. I weighed 160 before my knee broke last February, and I haven't consistently worked out since. Now I'm about 175ish, and the worst thing about it is I know I gained more than that when I consider all the muscle I lost. It's been hard for me, since I consider it shameful if any past incarnation of myself can kick my present-day ass when I'm still young. I just don't see an excuse for that to happen.

Now I'm trying to lose all the weight and maybe get back the muscle I lost. I'm more concerned with not having to buy new pants, which is weird for me to even be put in that situation. It's all very disappointing.

As for diet and workout plans, I know what works and what works for me. The hardest thing is being consistent and controlling myself. Food is really awesome and so is not doing anything.
SJ27
SJ27 on Oct 17 '11 at 6:39pm
I think Kelly Osbourne probably does have sympathy for other girls with weight issues, she's only turning around Christina's previous comments back on her, which is not particularly mature or anything but I think it just goes to show you probably shouldn't tease someone about their weight because one day you might be fat too. And one day Kelly might be fat again, so saying this now won't win her any sympathy if she does because the cycle will continue. Christina will be able to hit back, justified by these comments and so on forever.

Last weekend I had a wedding on and when I went to put on my suit pants I discovered I'd gained up to 3 inches on my waist. I hadn't even noticed because my jeans size doesn't seem to have changed. I'm not terribly worried about that, since I was probably underweight before, so the gain hasn't been unhealthy and it may even be unhealthy of me to try and go back. I don't want to have to buy new pants though, I can't afford it. But it's definitely been caused by me eating unhealthy and sitting down a lot. I used to work on my feet all day and do a lot of walking but now I sit at a desk so I think I do need to start actively exercising.
canceromega
canceromega on Oct 17 '11 at 7:33pm
My parents were always very strict about fitness and eating healthy when I was a kid. It was kinda shitty HOW authoritarian they were about it back then, but it has certainly done me good in the long run. Even though all I do is bike now, I'm lucky to have been a size 3 at my fattest.
I have some body image issues now and have in the past, but there's no reason I should, realistically. I do anyway though, and that's good in a way since it'll constantly keep me under the threat of gaining too much weight.
jet approves
jet approves on Oct 17 '11 at 8:05pm
jen, have you considered that you might not be eating enough calories? i've heard that the cure to a weight loss plateau is to up your calories because you're probably not eating enough. you'll gain maybe 5lbs or so at first as your body adjusts but you'll lose it again quickly enough and then some.
Twiggyhall
Twiggyhall on Oct 17 '11 at 8:19pm
Yeah, if I eat more than that, I stay the same or gain :/

It's a pisser! Lol

I'm way happier where I am now (size 10-12), though, then where I was before. But still don't quite feel like I'm where I should be for how much work I put into it :/
Polyester Jones
Polyester Jones on Oct 17 '11 at 8:27pm
i don't know. i have the hardest time judging my own weight. it's the weirdest thing. I am a small person, but I'm not skinny and I'd say I am overweight but not by a huge amount? Been like that for most of my life. I never notice when I've gained or lost weight until someone points it out to me, and it's always unsettling. Like sometimes I will have thought that I was gaining weight and then someone says "you've lost so much weight!" Or the reverse.
I can't keep control of my self-image. On Monday I will think of myself as "the fat girl", change clothes ten times before I leave the house, feel like I'm out of control, promising myself to make a change. Then the next morning I literally see a skinnier person in the mirror and I feel pretty good. Or sometimes I see myself as larger but it feels good, or the reverse. I am also terrible at judging what clothes will fit, or how big I am in relation to other people. I've offered to lend people clothes and have them go, oh, honey, no it'll be way too small/big, your hips or whatever are way bigger/smaller, and again I'm like, oh, ok? I hadn't realized? And I really hadn't at all. Sometimes I feel like my body is this mysterious black box that my head just glides around on. But then sometimes I feel pretty great. It's confusing.
SuperRyan
SuperRyan on Oct 17 '11 at 9:11pm
I am fat and I am dealing with it and I very much dislike talking about it.
SuperRyan
SuperRyan on Oct 17 '11 at 9:13pm
Could I eat better: sure
Could I exercise: sure

but when I'm not busy, I am lazy and tired
littlem
littlem on Oct 17 '11 at 9:28pm
i've always been very active in sports, etc and blessed with a high metabolism. i actually enjoy exercising. i hope i never have to diet to lose weight. i gained about 10 pounds over the past few years and i'm still happy. as long as a feel good about myself, the number on the scale doesn't matter to me.

i don't think badly of people who are overweight unless they complain about it and make no genuine attempts to rectify the situation. i realize that it's easier for some to control their weight. some people have medical conditions that make it more difficult to control their weight.

if someone is plump, and they are happy and healthy, then i'm happy for them.

but sometimes, i admit, it makes me sad to see very young children who probably weigh more than i do. i'm sure they are not healthy and i wish their parents would help them make better food choices.

Twiggyhall
Twiggyhall on Oct 17 '11 at 9:36pm
I will say, at the end of the day, I would rather keep my T & A and have a bit of a tummy pooch, than have no curves at all. I have grown to really feel good about those parts of my bod, whereas when I was younger, I felt weird about them.

I'd rather look like Christina Hendricks than Calista Flockhart anyday! (And no offense to any thinner gals, it's just something I've personally struggled with for a loooooong time)
littlem
littlem on Oct 17 '11 at 9:37pm
i enjoy your curves, twigz!
Twiggyhall
Twiggyhall on Oct 17 '11 at 9:43pm
*rawr, Annie!! ;)
avalanche_lily
avalanche_lily on Oct 17 '11 at 9:48pm
In the past year I have lost over 30 pounds but still want to lose more. I find it strange that people tell me not to. Being overweight really sucked. It wreaks havoc on your self-esteem. I feel better about myself now but it's weird because I have days where I feel I haven't lost anything. I admit when you lose weight, you can easily slip down the self-righteous slope. But then I consider how most people are misinformed and uneducated on the process of how to lose weight. Then I just get pissed at doctors and these so-called "health and fitness" experts who merely want to sell their book or protein shakes.

I also think the phrase "eating healthy" is ambiguous and misleading. You can eat healthy and still eat too much, which is how you gain weight.

What also sucks: smaller boobs
Chipmnk
Chipmnk on Oct 17 '11 at 9:53pm
Sometimes, I just sit on the toilet for six hours and let nature take its course.
avalanche_lily
avalanche_lily on Oct 17 '11 at 10:05pm
So are you saying you're full of crap, Alvin?
jet approves
jet approves on Oct 17 '11 at 10:12pm
i wouldn't mind the smaller boob side effect. actually, it would be pretty awesome.
avalanche_lily
avalanche_lily on Oct 17 '11 at 10:20pm
That's what I thought. It's not. Small boobs are only great if you're born with them.
jet approves
jet approves on Oct 17 '11 at 10:21pm
i usually gain weight there first and lose it last so i think i'll still be stuck with them anyway. hopefully just in a smaller form.
xnarx
xnarx on Oct 17 '11 at 10:31pm
I've been taking B-12 for a month now. I've lost 3 lbs just because of it. Also, I'm starting to go back to the gym slowly but surely.

My problem is that I love weight training but hate doing cardio.
Tell me to do ab workouts and do any lifting and I have so much fun.
Tell me to get on a treadmill and run or go to a cycling class and I will laugh and gtfo.
I gain a lot of muscle really quickly which makes it seem on the scale like I'm not losing or gaining anything.
Yeah, the only thing I love to do that has any cardio in it is play tennis. Just wish there was an indoor tennis field in my city.

So yeah, I've always had big boobs and have been a size 8. I would love to lose 20 lbs and get rid of back fat which is the worst.

I don't think I'm fat at all. I just want to learn how to cook healthy meals that taste good and not eat so much carbs. Blah.

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