But then... We wouldn't get the shirts we like... it wouldn't be democracy.. we'd have to live with wearing whatever shirts were thrown down to us by the staff.



It would be anarchy! *reads blog title* Oh right that's what you're going for nevermind.

I think actually do trust the staff over the voters to pick better shirts... but doing that undermines the whole threadless process D:

well my point is we are not wearing what we like...or at least i'm not because designs i've wanted to see or wear get turned down or lose out on voting. I haven't bought a shirt here for nearly a year and shirts i've been waiting for are in file 13

which shirts are you talking about? and how do you know when a shirt design gets turned down?



You must be talking about your own then.

well mine got turned down but i've been doing shirts for years and that doesn't bother me. what is bothering me is designs that i've been watching and waiting for have been shot down while designs like acid cat get full consideration. i would be caught dead in that shirt and i mean that. i have people that would re-dress my dead body to make sure.

wouldn't be caught that is

even though I love acid cat, I can almost assure you its not going to score high because the majority of the voters think like you do. This is fine, you have the right to your opinion, but realize that everyone commenting on acid cat has a right to theirs as well.



which designs have you been watching and waiting for? that was my question, not which ones would you not be caught dead in.

well the "would be caught dead in" category notwithstanding, i'll share just a few of the ones i wanted:

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oh and your wondersquirrel one was cute and made me laugh and i gave it $5

look at my average and you can see i basically already do this

horses for courses

thank you for your support icebar....or are you supporting anarchy?

oh and add this to ones i wanted rock lobster

It's votards like you that make all the bad designs print o_O

lol, you like my silly ones.. thanks for that.



a lot of the ones on your list up there didnt do too bad at all. so they arent really representative of "losing out on voting".



the voting here really does work though, I think most of the things that get dropped deserved to be dropped. sometimes they are just bad, sometimes they just need a whole lot of improvement

there are a lot of votards, but I think the votards effect designs like acid cat more so than number 6 on your list up there

about half the designs you posted are probably a bit too boring for threadless anyway

actually i don't vote that way if you look at my average but i'm saying what is the use? decent designs are being taken out of the running early and some that survive the voting don't get printed so who is the votard if you are not getting what you want from the vote? majority rule may mean the majority sux in this case

that is only a small selection of the ones i liked and wanted. the list was waaaaaaayyyyy too long so i grabbed the oldest to see if they were being printed or not.

the designers can print their own shirts if they want, basically threadless is just saying they dont want to invest $2000 plus dollars to produce your design on a shirt, based on the amount of higher votes, and Id buy it clicks within the first 24 hours it wouldnt prove profitable to them. There are plenty of other design comp sites that you can sub your designs to or others can.

yeah i know but what of the ones i admire from othre artists? i'm not going to take their art for my enjoyment and i would rather support that artist through this medium which i thought was the idea.

heck, i can print all my own designs if i wanted. hell i ran my own airbrush shop for ten years as well as designing stuff for screen print friends of mine. it's not about me.

and add this tothe ones i want to see printedpity thee

don't you worry your little pants off, i doubt my cat will even break 1.90.

not only will your cat score high it will likely win and you will get designer of the year

hehe well that would be pretty nice but i would honestly keel over if it happened.

lol

ps. i think throwing your vote so only threadless workers/owners get a say is the opposite of anarchy.

good point. my point is that some desings are not getting total consideration. your desing is at least getting a full run at voting and maybe enough people will ike it and it gets printed. Then all the acid cat people in the world can wear their passion on their chest. this is a good thing. but what about my passion for old B52 songs?

everything gets its chance deejay.. "It wasn't a Rock" had its chance just like everything else that gets submitted for voting.

Oh come now. You can't complain that one single solitary Glennz tee didn't print, they can't print everything he does!

you said you picked the oldest from the list you liked, but only one of them is actually older than 90 days, so they might still be printed..



and I think threadless gets just too many awesome designs, but they can not choose to print them all unfortunately.. you should check some other shirt sites (i will not mention names..), some people got their stuff printed there that was up for voting here before

Seriously?



I mean... yeah, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but



...seriously?

I'll see if I can steal the olympic torch and set this palce alight.

first off, i have no idea who glenzz is supposed to be. is he or she next in line for the crown? The secretary general of the U.N.? The guy who is about to take Lance Armstrong's tour de France record? i wouldn't know and i'm not familiar with the hiarchy on this site, Tora. Until this blog most people here have not attempted to get to know me or what i'm about other than ProfessorE and maltzmania and that was a passing hello. I don't know any of you but i do appreciate art and that is why i'm here. now since this art is not going up in galleries and most of these artists are not starting any graphic novels anytime soon i am force to wear my admiration on my chest. Now for nearly a year i've noticed that literary and song references seem to win the day for designs which is OK if you listen to the music of this community which i can probably safely say that i do not. I am a DJ and maybe a small fraction of you listen to music styles i do so my song references will be lost on you. Thankfully there are enough gaming and pop culture references here that i recognize so that i don't feel totally lost. The point that i am making is that if the reference does not mean anything to the members of this community is it doomed to go away and not get judged on artistic merit? If a person "does not get it" does it get an automatic "0" even though the art is spectacular? Or does the opposite happen where a really crappy presentation gets automatic "5$" because someone dedicated that time to reference an idie sensation song that everyone loves today but no one will know by the time the shirt is printed? Well we all wear these shirts for one reason only: to get conversations started, otherwise the art would be on your wall. When you wear something with print or an obscure picture on it you will hopefully inspire someone to laugh at it or ask you what it's all about. In doing so you want it to reflect your personality. Now maybe this means i'm not "in tune" with this community. Or maybe the people in this community that share my personality traits also share my schedule and cannot log as many hours as the people who get first shot at judging these submissions. all i know is many of the designs that i find appealing disappear far too quickly and designs that i don't particularly care for seemingly get the full run and enough time to get votes. All i want is to change that damned 1.5 rule and let all the designs get a fair chance to get judged. Just look what "calling it early" has done to the world so far.

why was the glennz response directed at me?

Oh, and Tora, what is wrong with that shirt? If i wore it would you not talk to me because you didn't like it? Maybe that is the point after all. The parties i do have all sorts of people who come for the music and atmosphere. If that shirt will keep someone from boring me to death while i wait my turn on the turntables maybe i really want that shirt. Maybe i need that shirt to filter out people who will not "get me".

The glenzz thing wasn't directed at you. That's my ADD kicking in.

the Glenzz thing was for squatterjohn

Oh, and Tora, what is wrong with that shirt?

i just think its an odd choice as far as deserving prints is concerned. it's exectuted terribly imo. We all have varying opinions on what we consider print worthy... i guess i just didnt particularly agree with that one.

just to help answer the glennz thing... even though it wasnt actually directed at me. glennz = the most printed designer on threadless. just take a gander at his profile to see his pile of prints.

I can accept that. I was more into the idea of it and not the execution. maybe if it was reworked it would be to your liking.

Until this blog most people here have not attempted to get to know me or what i'm about other than ProfessorE and maltzmania and that was a passing hello.



have you attemted to get to know the rest of us? seems you're lashing out on the community without knowing any of the individuals, mostly based on your owntaste, on what you like and want, all i have to say is that no one gets all the designs they want printed, you just have to sttle with a few of them, but if you like NONE of the prints or almost zero then maybe threadless is just not the place foor you, cause i assure you theyre not gonna change the whole system because of 1 person

if you just wear t-shirts to get conversations started why don't you make your own shirts? take a sharpie write a few choice words onto a 3$ t-shirt = conversation guarantee.



i vote on shirts i think look good and that's it..



and it's funny that you seem completely against my shirt and then you say "If a person "does not get it" does it get an automatic "0" even though the art is spectacular?" because that's exactly what is happening. i don't think my art is the best thing on earth but i am positive the people zeroing it is because they 'don't get it' and the ones who are fiving it is because they like the image, because here, in general the pun shirts get the big votes.



i don't really know what you're complaining about anymore.

i think i will refrain from checking out his profile for now. I don't wantthe fact that he has a lot of prints here to skew my judgement of designs. I want to judge them on the merits of design and appeal. i think squatter thought i was judging on popularity of the designer.

i dont think anyone was insinuating that you judge based on a designers popularity. it was merely a funny observation that one of the designs you picked as an example was by glennz.

I personally do not wear shirts to get conversations started. I wear them because I like the design. I could care less if anyone talked to me based on what I was wearing. In fact, the idea that someone would judge me based on the design of my shirt is a bit disturbing. And the fact that you would choose a shirt to filter out people who do not "get" you is a bit disturbing, as well.



If something gets printed here and I don't like it, I don't buy it. I have seen designs printed that I've scored a "1" on. That doesn't mean it's "bad" art-It means it's something I'm into. It might be something I see as a poor design, but others see as something they want to wear. I respect the fact that my opinion isn't the only one out there...How boring would it be if we were all of the same opinion?

Ooh, sorry, I meant "It means it's something I'm *not* into. Sorry! :)

very true and a good point. if there is some way to follow the designs that i like that don't take the fancy of this community i would like to hear about it. maybe if it doesn't print here you can place a link to the site where it did print so i can buy it.

thanks, tora. i hadn't realized the designer. oh and to ginetteginette, i'm not picking at you directly andi'm sorry if it came off that way. your stumps design is actually one of my favorites and i'm waiting to see it in print