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djsmeejay
djsmeejay aka David is a 25.24 year old boy, has been a member since April 13, 2007, has scored 1,299 submissions, giving an average score of 1.50, helping 20 designs get printed.
Hey everyone, I am curious as to what people think about Jesus related submissions. Are you offended? Does religion belong in threadless? Lend me your comments, and also check out my submission and let me know what you think of it.
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mezo
   mezo on Dec 08 '07 at 12:36pm
I love funny jesuses.

You drew funny jesus that I don't find offensive.



This is my favorite funny jesus,

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...it's offensive to many.
christi104hsia
christi104hsia on Dec 09 '07 at 2:56am
hm... well, I'm not really all for Jesus-related submissions but if people like them, it's cool with me. I'm not out to go and change people's minds.
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bobobob1230
bobobob1230 on Feb 07 '08 at 6:17pm
I think that jesus has a sense of humor!
bobobob1230
bobobob1230 on Feb 07 '08 at 6:17pm
and i LOVE this shirt!
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BrittanyN
BrittanyN on Apr 29 '10 at 1:57pm
the more offensive the better.
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brendaferg
brendaferg on May 03 '10 at 1:07am
I find it really offensive. People worship Jesus as their Savior. And to have Him mocked on a T-shirt is inappropriate. I understand that you don't believe that Jesus was God, so I understand why you would think this T-shirt is funny. And I also know that a lot of people don't care about offending other people. But personally, I think that making fun of someone's beliefs is rude. There are plenty of T-shirt designs that are inoffensive. Why be offensive on purpose? I wouldn't wear a shirt that made fun of an Atheist or a Buddhist. Can't we all just be nice to each other? :)
craquehaus
craquehaus on May 03 '10 at 2:03am
Nice to each other?

Like having the belief that if you don't believe what I believe in when you die, my God will burn you in eternal hellfire? That kind of nice?

5eth
   5eth on May 03 '10 at 2:12am
As a Christian, most of the Jesus designs don't offend me much. I wouldn't even design a shirt that was mocking/stereotyping Jesus, because I know that it would offend some people, so it's best to just avoid that in my opinion. Anyways, if someone else makes a funny design, laugh, they didn't make it as a personal attack against you. The majority of the time it isn't even a personal attack against Jesus himself, it was just a design idea. There are many other offensive designs that get printed on this site...

Also, @craquehaus,
As Christians, we believe that there is a definite Heaven and Hell. We also believe that if you do not believe in Jesus as your Savior, you will go to Hell. We do not evangelize to try to condemn or bring judgment. Think of it like this; if you had the cure for cancer, and knew that we could use it, wouldn't you want to give it to everyone who had need? In that same way, we believe the Bible as absolute truth, and the Bible tells us that not believing in Jesus will cause you to have eternal torment in Hell. Wouldn't that suck? Jesus is the cure, we are simply spreading around the antidote to eternal separation from God.

Now, on the other hand...I don't believe this theory at all. But worst case scenario, if I'm wrong about Jesus, we both go to Hell, or there is no afterlife. If I am right, I go to Heaven, and you go to Hell. I don't even know you, and I would hate for you go to to Hell!

I'm not trying to start a flame war or a huge theological debate. I am simply stating my opinion, and trying to be "nice" about it ;)
The Enabler
The Enabler on May 03 '10 at 3:37am
I'm not trying to start a war either but did the guy have permission to rip off Ian Bradshaw's iconic sports photo?

http://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/2009/07/30/the-twickenham-streaker/
craquehaus
craquehaus on May 03 '10 at 10:20am
@5eth Can you see how that doctrine is offensive to the majority of the world?

We do not evangelize to try to condemn or bring judgment. Think of it like this; if you had the cure for cancer, and knew that we could use it, wouldn't you want to give it to everyone who had need?

Not a great example for a God sold as a God of love and compassion - for the Jews the Christian God could be considered worse than Hitler - as least he only burned them for a brief period in time.

Being civil is not the same a being nice, 5eth.
For believing these kind of things, one pays a social price:



Coming back to Brenda's question: Why be offensive on purpose? It's a good point. I think the answer to that is to rid the world of ignorance and superstition where it does more harm than good.

@enabler Read up on Fair Use Parodies are not "rip offs".



5eth
   5eth on May 03 '10 at 10:26am
I totally see how doctrine is offensive to the world. Truth is divisive by nature. We believe that the Bible is true, and that there is no other truth beyond that. We're simply trying to share the truth. If we offend people with who we are, or the way we say things, that sucks. Offending people with Jesus alone is fine with me. I didn't watch the video yet..

On an unrelated-steer-this-away-from-flame-war note, I woke up this morning to an email saying my design got rejected, bummer.
cloumbologist
cloumbologist on May 03 '10 at 10:31am
i dont have a problem with it except that im pretty sure its a banksy piece...
[+duracell-]
[+duracell-] on May 03 '10 at 11:18am
It's probably not a good idea to insult a portion of your audience in general. Religion being the prime focal point of many peoples lives, one should tread lightly. If you are using humor (yes Jesus has a sense of humor) make sure it is actually funny and not belittling in any way. Side note..honestly I don't recall ever seeing a design on here that made fun of any other religion besides Christianity. If you ever see Geisha or Buddha, they are most likely doing something supear-cool like playing a guitar or riding a surfboard or whatever. You'll never see a design of Buddha taking a dump on a burning tire with a caption that reads, "worst smell in the world." I mean, yeah thats funny, but it just never happens. Anyway, You can submit all the Jesus mocking designs you want over at an appropriate site such as tshirthell. There, ignorant people shop for ignorant designs and everyone is happy.
Threadless is a family friendly site. At least, I think that is whats intended. That's not to say that you can't submit anything controversial or thought provoking here. You just have to be prepared, and kind of expect, some sort of backlash. You could just avoid that altogether by drawing something most everyone should like. (yes that may be difficult) It's similar to that Dick Firestorm Mother's Milk submission. A lot of guys thought it was badass+ hilarious, while most of the girls seemed to find it sexist...which yeah, it was also.
*shrug*
brendaferg
brendaferg on May 04 '10 at 1:14pm
I'm not talking about having beliefs that may or may not offend people. It's fine to have a belief that might offend someone. Try having a religious/anti-religious or political belief system that DOESN'T offend anyone. That would be impossible. I'm talking specifically about wearing something that is a mockery of another person's beliefs on a T-shirt.

And I agree with duracell's comment: "Side note..honestly I don't recall ever seeing a design on here that made fun of any other religion besides Christianity. If you ever see Geisha or Buddha, they are most likely doing something supear-cool like playing a guitar or riding a surfboard or whatever..."

All I'm saying is that the question was asked: Is this offensive? And I have the right to say, "yes." It is offensive to me, because I believe that Jesus is God.

And, to craquehaus, you said: Nice to each other? Like having the belief that if you don't believe what I believe in when you die, my God will burn you in eternal hellfire? That kind of nice?

You are putting words in my mouth. I never said anything like that. You are assuming what I believe based on whatever Christians or professed Christians have said to you. Plus, I never condemned anyone on this sight and said they were going to burn forever or anything like that. I'm just saying that it's my opinion that shirts that make a mockery of people's faiths shouldn't be on Threadless, because that's what the question was about. If you wanna talk theology, it shouldn't be on this thread.
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SSorrr
SSorrr on May 13 '10 at 4:37am
Jesus may have been a "streaker"- - but not by his choosing. He was forced out of his robes to parade naked as part of his cruxification. He had to suffer immense torture and humiliation. This shirt makes it look like he was just being rebellious and streaking for fun. Honestly, I don't mind Jesus-related shirts, but this one to me, is similar to making fun of a rape victim by calling her a "whore" - - it is profiting off of someone's pain.

... I will probably be seen as taking this way too seriously, but if the latter was true- -or if a shirt depicted anyone else who suffered in this manner, wouldn't most people be outraged?
Binarypulse
Binarypulse on May 13 '10 at 9:29pm
It would outrage people if the story were true.
5eth
   5eth on May 13 '10 at 10:12pm
The entire reason we evangelize is to make sure people don't go to hell. The Bible says, "God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." There isn't some secret code that gets people out of hell, it's a matter of the heart. Some people genuinely do convert to merely "cover their bases" and they live a completely unfruitful Christian life, and usually end up falling away and neglecting the faith because they didn't actually believe in Jesus, they just didn't like the thought of hell.

Sorry for being long winded, but it's not like we're saying, "Here's hell, you need to do this and this to get out of it." then shove something in your face. We hold out hell in one hand, and explain the reality of it, then hold out Jesus in the other hand, and explain what He's done, and how that can save you from hell. Once we're holding that all out, it's entirely up to you. Forcing anything on you, or scaring you with hell does absolutely nothing. The entire message of the Gospel points to Jesus. Heaven and hell are very real, and should be taken seriously, but Jesus should be taken even more seriously.

I'm really sorry again for typing so much, I never plan on it, I promise. It just happens.
[+duracell-]
[+duracell-] on May 13 '10 at 10:25pm
That's what's known as hedging your bets. Do you really think if there was a God he would want people to convert in order to cover all the bases. In other words, as well intentioned as your evangelizing might be it's ultimately useless to try to convert people by holding out the threat of hell, as the conversion (if it comes at all) won't be genuine if it's based upon fear.

It isn't possible to convert to cover all the bases. You either believe or you don't...that simple. Most true Christians aren't going to attempt to spread the gospel through threats and fear tactics. It's quite the opposite. The fear/ reverence Christians have toward God is the same thing a child has with their father.
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betamac
betamac on May 17 '10 at 7:50am
um i think a few people dont realise that this shirt is actually an iconic sports photo...as TheEnabler said. im a christian and i dont find this offesnive at all, but i suppose that's because i know the story behind it.
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djsmeejay
djsmeejay on Jul 07 '10 at 12:23am
It actually came from some Byzantine art.
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Serensdipity
Serensdipity on Aug 12 '10 at 6:04am
Jesus is an icon so could be reproducted on tees like others icons
check my jesus out:
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