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psyraccoon
psyraccoon aka Jeff Hoffman is a 23.66 year old boy, has been a member since March 23, 2007, has scored 2,385 submissions, giving an average score of 2.43, helping 70 designs get printed.
Hi there, just a quick question for all you designers who use Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop.

I have been working with the Adobe programs for about 2-3 years now, and I have gotten into using Illustrator a lot recently, but one thing is bothering me about my work. I go through people's designs on flickr, and see amazing shirts here on threadless, and there's one thing I really haven't tried or had success in the distant past doing. A lot of hand drawn elements are interesting me, and It's driving me mad to how they might go about it. I want to be able to take a clean, well defined pencil sketch or inked sketch and bring it into Illustrator.

For some reason I have not seen a way to scan things in Illustrator ever, so I assume you import in Photoshop, clean up there, adjust contrast, and bring into Illustrator for a live trace. The thing is.... not to rag on the function at all, it's a great tool in Illustrator, but.... live trace isn't the most accurate.

Could anyone grace me with their glorious knowledge of experience and let me know how they go about doing this? Do you even rasterize your scanned elements? Is there some other way to go about this all together that I have no idea how to pull off?

Please enlighten me, because I'd love to be able to use things that I draw more in my Illustrator work, even though I've been getting better and better with the pen tool trying some things out.

Thanks so much for your time!

psyraccoon
psyraccoon on Jan 06 '08 at 4:54pm
Anyone?... Not sure if I have this in the right area for the blog forums....
MrDomino
   MrDomino on Jan 06 '08 at 5:09pm
If you draw large and ink cleanly then LiveTrace will work for you. You'll have to work with the settings to get the result you want though. What I used to do was sketch on paper then ink over using vellum or acetate and some Rapid-o-graph pens. The ink for them is wonderful on film and is very opaque. You'll have to put a white piece of paper behind the film or vellum on your scanner if it doesn't have a backlight for scanning those mediums. But I always got great results in vectors from that. The larger you draw the original the better.
psyraccoon
psyraccoon on Jan 07 '08 at 11:13am
Thanks KBShakedown and MrDomino, that helps me out :). I guess most people just do hi-resolution scans for some of those things like textures and have them as placed objects in their designs (correct me if I'm wrong). I've had bad luck with bringing in stuff before and using live trace MrDomino, but I'll give vellum a try, its a great idea. That'll take away the cleaning up step of the process, which is what usually screws up my live trace (it's most likely I should have just taken more time cleaning up my sketch, but this seems to be a much better idea).
Monkey III
   Monkey III on Jan 07 '08 at 11:15am
Live trace is just a tool as any other tool.

KNOW when to use it -- that's my tip! ^^
psyraccoon
psyraccoon on Jan 07 '08 at 11:56am
Thanks Monkey III, that's very true. Gotta use my own judgment :-p.
amaliaslash
amaliaslash on Jan 07 '08 at 12:02pm
Well, to keep the hand-drawn look, I'd not vectorize it at all. Using Priscilla as an example (that's valorandvellum), I think she scans, cleans it up, and then does coloring layers over it without ever moving into illustrator, because (to me) the vector is too clean and loses the element of hand-drawn.



She actually has a blog about her methods, I think it's called "Photoshop Coloring tutorial" or something, just search the blogs for it.
creampie
creampie on Jan 07 '08 at 12:04pm
Live trace is garbage except for a lot of situations.



huh??
psyraccoon
psyraccoon on Jan 07 '08 at 8:17pm
amaliaslash, thanks so much for directing me towards that coloring tutorial by valorandvellum! That'll help a lot, I was looking for something like that.
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