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PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin aka niki is a 26.77 year old girl, has been a member since March 8, 2007, has scored 420 submissions, giving an average score of 1.36, helping 5 designs get printed.
Hey I'm not boring. I'm a friendly critic and a college graduate as of May. So :P
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iPear
iPear on Mar 20 '07 at 10:38pm
oh, cool.



...



care to get blazed yo!?



HOLL AHOLALDD,.
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 1:32am
blazed? what does that mean.
Frank Vice
Frank Vice on Mar 21 '07 at 1:33am
lol
exoticrobotic
exoticrobotic on Mar 21 '07 at 1:33am
critic of what
Frank Vice
Frank Vice on Mar 21 '07 at 1:35am
im guessing... movies. shes too skinny to be a food critic
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 1:37am
I checked out blazed on urbandictionary. Not interested but thanks for asking, pear.

guys - I'm a professional art and literature critic. I'm also an economist, but not the type you associate with dry heaves.
Frank Vice
Frank Vice on Mar 21 '07 at 1:38am
hmm, guess i was wrong
Kerrn
Kerrn on Mar 21 '07 at 1:38am
let's get maized



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-k.
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 1:40am
I'm also not skinny
Frank Vice
Frank Vice on Mar 21 '07 at 1:46am
i apologize for classifying you incorrectly
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 1:54am
it was the fact that you tried to classify me in the first place.

kidding. no worries
spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:00am
what school of economics do you associate with?
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:02am
my own... its currently a medley of deep ecology, personal conservativism, social liberalism, loosely marxist based, moderation.
spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:05am
that's not economics, but a grab bag of stuff



economics is a science

PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:06am
uh oh. well, perhaps I shouldn't have put it that way.

instead, ask a specific question, I'll try to answer it. trying to organize my economic thoughts fails, I suppose...
J-Ray
J-Ray on Mar 21 '07 at 2:06am
how can you be a "professional critic" at 21?
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:08am
According to the American Heritage Dictionary, a professional is one who is: Having or showing great skill; expert.
spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:10am
I thought the difference between a pro and an amateur, is that the pro gets paid.



spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:11am
explain value.
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:12am
I think it is more based on experience. Who says I don't get paid to critique? Not all pay is monetary and not all pay is given by others. :)
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:13am
value is an assigned measure of thought.
spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:16am
I didn't say whether you were paid or not, but just drew a distinction. From your definition, anyone is both an amateur and a professional -- given the lack of objective distinctions between skill levels.



So someone who gets paid a boatload of cash for writing ho-hum crap is not a professional? Who is the gatekeeper of excellence?
sonmi
   sonmi on Mar 21 '07 at 2:16am
oh man, the gatekeeper of excellence...



this blog is way too thoughtful for 2:16 am!
spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:16am
explain further: where does value originate?
J-Ray
J-Ray on Mar 21 '07 at 2:17am
Well I should rephrase my question then. What qualifies you as an expert art critic? I'm not trying to be confrontational, just curious.
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:18am
These things are perception based. I love the "gatekeeper of excellence" wording. It should be made into a tee design...
spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:21am
I'm still thinking that professionals get paid, because that is an objective difference from someone who does not get paid, thereby making a distinction, and justifying the very term 'professional' itself.



Are you familiar with argumentation ethics?



Thanks for the compliment! Also, I'm curious, not confrontational.
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:21am
Confrontational or curious, it's all good, J-Ray.

I simply qualified myself. Basically, we are all on here with the capacity to score others' designs. I consider myself an expert because my comments stem from a pool of experience in critiquing. :)

Spires - In reference to your new question, I stand by my current statement, these things are perception based.
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:22am
I've never heard the term "argumentation ethics". I too am curious, so explain if you wish.
J-Ray
J-Ray on Mar 21 '07 at 2:22am
Have you written for anything outside of Threadless, as in... critic for a school newspaper, anything like that?



...i think i like pinklepunkin...
J-Ray
J-Ray on Mar 21 '07 at 2:23am
i like spires too
J-Ray
J-Ray on Mar 21 '07 at 2:23am
but not in that way haha
spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:24am
Perceptions are not objective or evident, but only believed in. Therefore that basis alone could not justify the existence of professionalism, which is by its nature, an externally derived state.



You could perceive red sparkly fairies are the jam on toast, but I could never believe that perception, or ever verify that it was your perception at all.
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:26am
Most of the class settings I've been in are conducive to, and often call for, critiquing of each others' ideas (in economics or otherwise) and written work (in whatever subject). Also I'm an art advocate, so I spend a lot of time with that. I'm not an artist, however, so you will probably never see designs for tees on here by me. I wrote for my college newspaper one semester, but I was bored with it. Other than that, I blog now and then, but nothing much substantial. Thanks for asking.
MeLa de Gypsie
MeLa de Gypsie on Mar 21 '07 at 2:29am
hahaha... can I complete that title for you... I thought it was a little funny... and also can apply to me...



I am not boring, but I don't have a life.
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:30am
Spires, I never said (nor thought) that anyone here should have to believe anything I say. But thanks for considering it.



The external, perhaps, is derived from the internal.



I was under the impression that jam was the red sparkling dust, not the pixies themselves... ;) kidding
J-Ray
J-Ray on Mar 21 '07 at 2:34am
spires, if we haven't had enough toast with jam designs lately, that would have been a good one =)



I think a professional and amateur are defined by their practices as well as expertise, regardless of whether you are paid or not. A professional who does some work for free is still a professional, to use a counterexample.
J-Ray
J-Ray on Mar 21 '07 at 2:35am
Oh spires!!! I gotta go see how those subs of your scored....
spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:39am
J-ray, your definition still lacks a distinction that justifies the existence of professionalism. It may not be the act of receiving payment, but some differentiator must be proposed, that is objective, to justify the claim.



In so far as the man is not being paid, he is not acting as a professional, but rather as something else. Perhaps an amateur, or a fool; but not as a professional. Maybe you can suggest some other objectively evident differentiator than being paid.
spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:43am
Pinkle, I wouldn't suggest that you wish others to believe you, but rather creating an example to illustrate that, perceptions are not proof and do not offer distinctions, and therefore cannot be the stuff of definition.



your name is cute!
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:44am
I should think more before impulsive word choices like "professional"...



I also never expected anyone to happen upon my threadless blog. I basically signed up to vote for a good friend. then I checked my profile to find a standard threadless statement for people who have no blogs etc. this motivated me to make impulsive word choices just to throw something on the canvas and shoo the threadless statement away...
TastesLikeGrandpa
TastesLikeGrandpa on Mar 21 '07 at 2:45am
Hey fancy girl art critic. You think you're better than us just cause you have never passed out with a cherry popsicle in your ass and then woken up hungover not remembering the popsicle thinking that you were suffering from rectal bleeding? Well....keep sitting on your throne in the tall tower, Missy! You can't call yourself no art critic till you look at my masterpieces I've created for this unworthy site.



So what are ya waitin' for? Go have a look see!
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:45am
what, then, can be the stuff of definition? :)
spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:45am
I enjoy this sort of dialogue. Do you feel attacked?
spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:46am
Grandpa is the new bananaphone, but with a wrinkly bulge in the crotch
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:46am
TastesLikeGrandpa, you make me smile. in a good way. Laugh even.



I'll check out a few of your masterpieces in a moment.
J-Ray
J-Ray on Mar 21 '07 at 2:47am
=) I wasn't trying to define it, just saying that to be a professional you need to follow certain criteria set by the community. For designers, this might include not doing spec work, using legitimate software and claiming your income properly. Lots of other things...



But if a professional (I'm thinking of myself, and I normally get paid) does some occasional charity work, donating your services, he is still a professional, wouldn't you agree?
spires
   spires on Mar 21 '07 at 2:48am
Definiton is built upon observable distinctions.
PiNKlePuNKin
PiNKlePuNKin on Mar 21 '07 at 2:48am
Not attacked. Talk about bristly word choices...

More like... provoked, intrigued, that sort of sensation.

Maybe I've fallen asleep at the desk and this is all just a nightmare... Er, dream, I meant dream... heh
J-Ray
J-Ray on Mar 21 '07 at 2:48am
Spires I'm happy the birds design did well. I was really worried for a while.

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