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May 14 '08 by DragonStar

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Firefly Fans: Out of Gas?

So Firefly is awesome and should never have been cancelled, yadda yadda yadda. Anyway, the episode Out Of Gas is possibly my favorite. It has a surreal time structure and cements the characters through flashbacks and current scenes. But what I love the most about it is that none of them would have survived without the actions of each other.

Jayne shut the door and saved the oxygen.
Kaylee showed Cap how to fix the engine.
Doc showed him where the adrenaline is, which kept him alive long enough to put the part in.
Wash set up the beacon.
etc etc.

If each of them had not been exactly who they are, they'd all be dead.

Now my sister saw it and loved the series, but hates this episode. She feels it has a poor narrative structure and a weak ending. The way she paints it, there is a random catastrophe, a lot of dramatic nothings, and a deux ex machina at the end to resolve a problem that was bullshit in the first place.

So what do you think?

NJz Kollectionz on May 14 '08 at 7:47pm

I LOVE Firefly. Can't' believe it stopped. That was one of my favorites as well, your sis is crazy!!! A lot of movies/shows are based around unlikely events...

PuterBoy on May 14 '08 at 7:47pm

I don't watch anime.

DragonStar on May 14 '08 at 7:54pm

cool, dude. That's how I feel.

PuterBoy, me either. Except that I do, and it kicks ass.

Spookybeth on May 14 '08 at 7:59pm

PubertyBoy, are you being intentionally obtuse? Firefly is not anime.

Dragon star, did you read about that crazy feminazi who went on a long winded LJ rant about how firefly is sexist and Joss Whedon rapes his wife? It was beyond comprehension.

In other news, Firefly is awesome and I like all the episodes...

tracerbullet on May 14 '08 at 8:07pm

That's one of my favorite episodes (my favorite is Ariel). I love, love, LOVE the ending shot with Mal totally ignoring the salesman and just staring off into the distance at Serenity. You can just tell how in love with that ship he is :-)

shakethesheets on May 14 '08 at 8:10pm

Oh, I think that's a great episode. Jaynestown was hilarious, but I wouldn't call that my favorite either. Not sure which is. I thought The Message was also very well done.

I actually just watched Serenity about an hour ago... Think there's any hope for more episodes/movies?

shakethesheets on May 14 '08 at 8:10pm

haha YES tracer, that's probably the scene that stuck with me the most about the whole show.

tracerbullet on May 14 '08 at 8:13pm

have you read the comics, shakethesheets? there's the Those Left Behind series, which came out right before Serenity, and there's the Better Days series, which is out right now (the third and final chapter is coming out soon).

shakethesheets on May 14 '08 at 8:14pm

naw I haven't but I almost bought a couple the other day... I'll probably give in by the end of the week.

DragonStar on May 14 '08 at 8:34pm

Spookybeth, I didn't have the pleasure. Got a link?

tracerbullet, that is an awesome shot. Well acted, well composed.

I fear there will never be more episodes, but I hope I'm wrong.

Spookybeth on May 14 '08 at 8:58pm

It took me a while to find the link, sorry.

Here is the original (very loooong) rant

and a couple of fan blog responses and another

Spookybeth on May 14 '08 at 8:59pm

there are 2 links in that last sentence, forgot to put a space in - sorry.

DragonStar on May 14 '08 at 9:36pm

Wow. Some of what she says makes sense, though she obviously has no appreciation for sarcasm or irony.

DragonStar on May 14 '08 at 9:38pm

Oh, the wife thing is out of line. And she didn't really get Inara at all.

shakethesheets on May 14 '08 at 9:42pm

I'm watching Out of Gas now...good stuff.

Spookybeth on May 14 '08 at 9:58pm

Yeah, she does have a few good points, but then some of her more radical opinions and her outright refusal to enter into debate with anyone of a different opinion to her kind of take away her credibility...

It's a bit of a shame really, she sounds like a very bitter and unhappy person.

DragonStar on May 15 '08 at 8:47am

Lots of people are like that. And many of them are on the internet. And they're talking about Firefly. *check thread title* DOH!

straw8erry333 on May 15 '08 at 8:51am

Out of Gas is my favorite episode as well. It's probably my favorite 42 mins of TV.

FRICKINAWESOME on May 15 '08 at 9:03am

I should really watch the entire series. I loved the movie so hard even though im not a Josh Whedon fan, it was such a nice attempt at a different kind of sci-fi world and style. I watched an ep a long time ago but i probably had that bad buffy taste in my mouth. I'll ty it again some time, thanks for the inspirado guys!

tracerbullet on May 15 '08 at 9:07am

I watched an ep a long time ago but i probably had that bad buffy taste in my mouth

*smack* You bow down and kiss the ground that Buffy walks on!

FRICKINAWESOME on May 15 '08 at 9:22am

NEVER!

straw8erry333 on May 15 '08 at 9:36am

FA if you liked the movie you'll love the series. The dialog is much better and you'll get a chance to know the characters and how awesome they are.

DragonStar on May 15 '08 at 11:23am

Just be sure to watch the pilot first. In that order. Or you'l be cancelled.

DragonStar on May 15 '08 at 11:23am

straw8erry333, more love for Out of Gas! yes!

tracerbullet on May 15 '08 at 11:24am

here's hoping Fox doesn't completely fuck up Dollhouse *sigh*

DragonStar on May 15 '08 at 11:28am

Hope and Fox are mutually exclusive.

Bonus tidbit: I was once an after school kids show host for the local Fox affiliate. I taped about 8 episodes. They never aired because this out of work magician who knew the station manager wanted the job. He sucked, and got canned, and then a friend of mine got the gig and did well.

marblecargirl on May 15 '08 at 11:42am

Series wins over the movie, but of course I love the movie too. Except the whole Wash thing. BAH! Cry every time.

Love Out of Gas!

ekaj47 on May 15 '08 at 11:53am

looks like i'm gonna have to go and rewatch the series this weekend

straw8erry333 on May 15 '08 at 11:57am

the best is watching it with people who have never watched it before and getting them hooked and then depressed that there aren't anymore

if Out of Gas was lengthened to be twice as long- it'd be better quality than a lot of movies

tracerbullet on May 15 '08 at 11:58am

i'll be in my bunk

DragonStar on May 15 '08 at 11:58am

So the consensus is I'm not crazy... or is that still on the table?

DragonStar on May 15 '08 at 11:59am

I just hope you remember where everything goes.

ISABOA on May 15 '08 at 12:00pm

out of gas was really great

I ahve a special place in my heart for janestown though

TimScribble on May 15 '08 at 12:02pm

You arent crazy. Great episode. I love all the characters. The comics are great, they are worth a pick up. They explain what happened to the "Hands of Blue" guys. I have yet to big up the newest series which came out recently.

courtney pie on May 15 '08 at 12:04pm

love that epi, not my fave, but still fantastic

tracerbullet on May 15 '08 at 12:04pm

i think there's supposed to be a comic book series coming out all about shepherd book, which is awesome. i believe the common consensus that he used to be an operative.

lordog on May 15 '08 at 12:18pm

I love that episode, too...It's anything but a bunch of random catastrophic incidents! Tell your sis she craaazy.

tracerbullet on May 15 '08 at 12:19pm

the young girl who played little river in Safe was awesome. i wish they had used her for Serenity instead of the actress they chose.

MrDomino on May 15 '08 at 12:23pm

I see where she's coming from. There's a lot of latent misogyny and racism in television and film. It does get to the point where it's hard to tell the difference. Heart of Gold is my favorite episode, which I'm sure is not hers. I liked it more for the Seven Samurai sense of rag tag heroism and the development of Mal & Inaras relationship rather than that everyone got some.

I'm not a huge fan of Book and Wash dying in the film. Book was a good counterpoint to all the grotesque minority villians in the series and movie. Zoe is a good character, but I rather like the presentation of a softspoken and intelligent black man that stands for something.

DragonStar on May 15 '08 at 2:50pm

I didn't like Wash dying either, though Book seemed reasonable. With Book, it's like "you'll never know." With Wash, it was "hey, random death!"

I suspect the deaths had something to do with the actors and their desire to continue or not if the series was picked up again. Like, maybe Joss said "Anyone who definitively does not want to be in a followup series and wants a cool death scene, raise your hand."

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