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Jan 27 '08 by Lucretia Mott

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Fuck Animal Rights. [Warning: The following contains hyperbole.]

Yeah, fuck them.

I read this article in Science about ALF and a variety of animal rights groups that have begun not only threatening labs where animals are used, but the scientists at home and their families. This one neuroscientist who actually had to give up his research because "activists" [or do they prefer "freedom fighter"?] flooded his house, threatened to burn his house down, and kept banging on the windows and terrorizing his 2 and 3 year old children in the middle of the night.

What.
The.
Fuck.

I'm sorry, white rats in labs are not at all akin to the jews in the holocaust. Why the fuck are you blowing up labs and terrorizing children for a few monkeys? Usually I would insert a sentence here exonerating myself as a vegan and thus completely empathetic with animal considerations, but not now. Fuck that. I would kill as many baby monkeys as it took to cure cancer or diabetes or Alzheimer's or even a hangnail. Scientific research is 100% justified.

MOREOVER!! There was a chart of the breakdown of animal related terrorism and SIXTY-SIX PERCENT was aimed at science. WHY? Fur and Meat industries got less violent attention COMBINED??

Why do you hate knowledge, animal-fanatics? Why are you trying to destroy the great bastion of civilization? What is wrong with you?

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ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 2:30pm

I like your ideas and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter, Chris.

But first ...

Chris Carney on Jan 27 '08 at 2:30pm

Is that Michael Jordan?

shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 2:31pm

your comedy needs some help, HADLEY

valorandvellum on Jan 27 '08 at 2:31pm

Well, of course we're not told the entire truth. We aren't told the entire truth for a lot of things. It's just that the way you worded your argument made it sound like you believed that there was already an absolute cure-all method for cancer, and therefore research for it was pointless. I just wanted to let you know that it's not pointless and that there isn't a cure for everybody just yet.

Is this the part where we hug?

Chris Carney on Jan 27 '08 at 2:31pm

Is that Michael Jordan?

gtoast99 on Jan 27 '08 at 2:31pm

"well you're not disagreeing with me. you're disagreeing with written reports of cancer survivors'."

Disagreeing with written reports of cancer survivors would be to say that "no one can fight cancer into lasting remission, despite recent medical advances."

Disagreeing with you is to say "there still is no cure for cancer, especially not 60 years ago." This is supported by his evidence- if there was a cure, his father would not have passed away from cancer.

ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 2:32pm

umm ... I don't know what you mean by the Micheal Jordan thing. Totally lost.

Chris Carney on Jan 27 '08 at 2:32pm

The guy dancing!

Jackanapes mk.II on Jan 27 '08 at 2:33pm

gtoast99 on Jan 27 '08 at 2:34pm

For the record, I agree with Ian that shirt was not factually correct when he referred to this discussion as full of facists. No one took away, nor tried to take away, anyone else's right to speak their opinion in this thread. Therefore, it's not accurate.

That would make it 2 to 1, so actualy, you're in the minority here shirt ;)

ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 2:35pm

Seriously? Dude ... watch more TV ... That's Carlton effing Banks.

shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 2:35pm

yeah VV i'll share a hug.

and who's to say there isn't a cure for all cancer? the medical industry? far from reliable.

im truly sorry that you lost your dad at a young age, too.

*hugs*

Chris Carney on Jan 27 '08 at 2:35pm

...who's he?

ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 2:36pm

Fresh Prince of Bel Aire? Come ON ... I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Lucretia Mott on Jan 27 '08 at 2:36pm

Yeah, Shirt has every right to say whatever he wants, just like he has every right to call me a New England elitist. I don't think anyone tried to take that away from him.

Lucretia Mott on Jan 27 '08 at 2:37pm

It's okay ian, I immediately recognized him.

Chris Carney on Jan 27 '08 at 2:37pm

Yes!...the crosby show

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shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 2:38pm

gtoast, i think you took part of the point, and created your own subpoint. which is fine.

i was defining the word argument bc it was far from one going on. when one side offers an opinion and things to back up those opinions and the second side only bashes your opinion with no real back up; that's the fascist mindset where; if you're different you're wrong. and that's the impression i get from dingo and hadley. not everyone.

and the minorty part, was in reference to ian being able to disagree and be civil AT THE SAME TIME which, around here is like trying to walk on water while sitting beneath the acacia tree awaiting enlightenment.

shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 2:39pm

hadley, just leave my name out of your mouth. alright?

Chipmnk on Jan 27 '08 at 2:40pm

Hahaha, I just noticed that quote on the right.

ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 2:40pm

I just don't think that people believing that people they disagree with are wrong .. is fascist. I think you're wrong about things we disagree on. If I didn't, we would agree. But thanks for the kind comment.

Lucretia Mott on Jan 27 '08 at 2:41pm

Ahahahah lol@ALAN trying to control what I say.

Jackanapes mk.II on Jan 27 '08 at 2:41pm

You guys remember that episode of Party of Five where Charlie's cancer is cured by drinking Chinese teas?

gtoast99 on Jan 27 '08 at 2:42pm

"that's the fascist mindset where; if you're different you're wrong."
That isn't facist though. It's only facist where; if you're different, you're not allowed to speak.

Besides, where have you backed up your assertion that cancer has a cure, and has had for the last 60 years? So one side stated an opinion, the other side said you're wrong, and... well, that's it. You haven't backed up anything you've claimed in this thread, except for vague references to buffalo chips with no reliable sources to verify them.

Chris Carney on Jan 27 '08 at 2:42pm

Motty ..you reconized Michael Jordan as well?...but it isn't him

shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 2:43pm

okey dokey

ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 2:43pm

I can say with a reasonable amount of confidence, Jackanapes, that I don't remember any episode of Party of Five. I remember the commercials during the Simpsons.

shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 2:44pm

man, sift back thru i posted with the names of three different doctors who have used diet to cure cancers. gtoast you can't come late and expect me to get you up to speed.

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Chris Carney on Jan 27 '08 at 2:46pm

Well? Was it the crosby show or not?

ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 2:47pm

Vonderplatiz also argues against the pasteurization of milk. Me, I kind of like my milk heated until the bacteria are killed. I also kind of like my milk without that grass flavor that comes with raw milk from a farm. Raw milk from a farm tastes like ass.

Chris Carney on Jan 27 '08 at 2:48pm

..you don't know

shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 2:48pm

yeah but it's really good for ya ian.

also, read about cooking your meat before eating it. some fascinating stuff in there that runs contrary to everything we've been told about in food preparation in the states.

Jackanapes mk.II on Jan 27 '08 at 2:48pm

ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 2:48pm

Carney - one last time. Fresh Prince of Bel Aire was a TV show, completely separate from the Cosby Show. Different. Both were funny, in their own way, and if you haven't had the pleasure of Fresh Prince, especially the episode where Uncle Phil wears all red and Will calls his Kool Aid, go out and find you some episodes.

Chris Carney on Jan 27 '08 at 2:50pm

That's Mr Carney to you Rose. So what show was Michael Jordan on then?

gtoast99 on Jan 27 '08 at 2:51pm

"Raw milk from a farm tastes like ass."
That, and it's linked to causing growth deformities.

"gtoast you can't come late and expect me to get you up to speed."
No peer reviewed articles? No respected medical websites? You don't need to get me up to speed, you need to reference your claims.

ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 2:51pm

It's also a fantastic way to get food poisoning, Shirt. Cases every year, even though it's nearly impossible to get. If the good doctor had his way, and it was available more widely, we'd see a lot more Salmonella, and a lot more Listeria. Pasteurization is not a bad thing.

J-Ray on Jan 27 '08 at 2:52pm

Only the weak minded find an argument strengthened by vulgarity.

Lucretia Mott on Jan 27 '08 at 2:52pm

Oh ha ha! I get the joke. Chris came in and called me obtuse..now, wait for it, HE'S obtuse!

lolocaust*

*Nazi reference just for you, carney-cakes.

gtoast99 on Jan 27 '08 at 2:53pm

"the episode where Uncle Phil wears all red and Will calls his Kool Aid"

One time our physics teacher in high school wore a purple shirt, and Stevetrpi called him Grimace. He didn't wear it again, lol.

Chris Carney on Jan 27 '08 at 2:53pm

Motty I love it when tou talk dirty to me

shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 2:54pm

ian, please, i urge to read everything. i have friends on strict raw diet...amazing results. the dr is out here in malibu who gives personal consultations to get you tarted and monitor your progress.

open your mind alittle i know you want to.

Bio-bot 9000 on Jan 27 '08 at 2:54pm

omg Chris Carney, Carlton Banks, played by Alfonso Ribeiro, was the preppy son of judge Philip Banks of the wildly popular NBC sitcom The Fresh Prince of Bel Air, starring Will Smith as the Fresh Prince. It was similar to the Cosby show in showing a wide diversity of African American characters , including many that didnt fit classical TV stereotypes for black people. and, Carlton was a huge Tom Jones fan.

shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 2:54pm

gtoast, check out the dr's i mentioned.

i can't be your professor

ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 2:54pm

Sorry if the vulgarity comment was pointed my way ... it was just the simile that I felt best described the taste of raw milk.

Chris Carney on Jan 27 '08 at 2:55pm

I remember now. Michael Jordan stared in "different strokes"

gtoast99 on Jan 27 '08 at 2:55pm

Interesting, it can also cause TB:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5424a4.htm

shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 2:56pm

i thought it was towards me :)

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