Lucretia Mott
Lucretia Mott aka Yasha Bochkareva has been a member since January 8, 2007, has scored 455 submissions, giving an average score of 2.87.
  Jan 27 '08 by Lucretia Mott        377 Comments        Watch this
Yeah, fuck them.

I read this article in Science about ALF and a variety of animal rights groups that have begun not only threatening labs where animals are used, but the scientists at home and their families. This one neuroscientist who actually had to give up his research because "activists" [or do they prefer "freedom fighter"?] flooded his house, threatened to burn his house down, and kept banging on the windows and terrorizing his 2 and 3 year old children in the middle of the night.

What.
The.
Fuck.

I'm sorry, white rats in labs are not at all akin to the jews in the holocaust. Why the fuck are you blowing up labs and terrorizing children for a few monkeys? Usually I would insert a sentence here exonerating myself as a vegan and thus completely empathetic with animal considerations, but not now. Fuck that. I would kill as many baby monkeys as it took to cure cancer or diabetes or Alzheimer's or even a hangnail. Scientific research is 100% justified.

MOREOVER!! There was a chart of the breakdown of animal related terrorism and SIXTY-SIX PERCENT was aimed at science. WHY? Fur and Meat industries got less violent attention COMBINED??

Why do you hate knowledge, animal-fanatics? Why are you trying to destroy the great bastion of civilization? What is wrong with you?
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Malcolm Man
Malcolm Man on Jan 27 '08 at 12:28pm
I was joked an okd women on a park bench because she kicked at a pigeon.
whisper in water
whisper in water on Jan 27 '08 at 12:29pm
I love animals. I love them a lot. But I agree with you on this one.

Well, I'm not sure about the hangnail thing, but I'm on board with the rest of it :P
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 12:30pm
you realize these 'experiments' are sham, and cures for cancer and other lifelong diseases have treatments already. actually, for more than 60 years.

but if you wanna rail against these people, sweet.
Malcolm Man
Malcolm Man on Jan 27 '08 at 12:30pm
I can't type.
Chipmnk
Chipmnk on Jan 27 '08 at 12:32pm
Yeah, people are a little crazy. Sometimes, I wonder if they really love animals or if they just hate humans more.
phones
phones on Jan 27 '08 at 12:33pm
100% agree. I REALLY hate the animal liberation front
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 12:34pm
humans are much easier to disagree with, for sure.
maddingo
maddingo on Jan 27 '08 at 12:35pm
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you realize these 'experiments' are sham, and cures for cancer and other lifelong diseases have treatments already. actually, for more than 60 years.
~~~


IDIOT!

you've lost the slight grip you've ever had... call the asylum now...
Lucretia Mott
Lucretia Mott on Jan 27 '08 at 12:35pm
Yeah but not everyone can grow their own weed, shirt. That's why sometimes we need science.
phones
phones on Jan 27 '08 at 12:36pm
i think shirt was being ironical
Ellsswhere
   Ellsswhere on Jan 27 '08 at 12:36pm
thats a bit far shirt, im with you on a lot but meh'

and as for this thread... its the same with all extremists, they are willing to break their own code of ethics to prove their point, its sad and twisted but their isnt much we can do, but animal cruelty still does suck there just has to be a better way than threatening people
Mike4507
Mike4507 on Jan 27 '08 at 12:38pm
So you like the meats now?
Lucretia Mott
Lucretia Mott on Jan 27 '08 at 12:40pm
Ahahah no phones, sadly he's dead serious.
myspacetom
myspacetom on Jan 27 '08 at 12:40pm
that's bullshit.


everybody can grow their own weed.
Malcolm Man
Malcolm Man on Jan 27 '08 at 12:41pm
Is Al dead serious?

Let's feed him to pigeons...because we disagree with him.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 12:41pm
yep, dead serious!

but as long as maddingo and lucretia are our medical experts here, i'm sticking to my fun allegations.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 12:41pm
haha, right malcolm?
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 12:42pm
cancer is a frequency. and you can treat.....

ahh fuck it. you guys know everything already.
DaddyDom
DaddyDom on Jan 27 '08 at 12:43pm
aloyisius is starting to sound like Tom Cruise.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 12:45pm
hahah, another one.

different opinions truly do catch backlash. even from you dom? surprised am i.



phones
phones on Jan 27 '08 at 12:45pm
zomg! shirt you're being seriously?

where'd you hear this?
Ellsswhere
   Ellsswhere on Jan 27 '08 at 12:46pm
at times we must hold our tongues shirt to hold face in front of others who are less knowledgeable and may consider us loons for our beliefs, there was little point in going around spouting how the world was round back when people thought it was flat, all it really did was get you a free spot in the loony bin or killed for that matter
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 12:46pm
i make it up like everything else i blog about, duh!
Malcolm Man
Malcolm Man on Jan 27 '08 at 12:46pm
yes, wear did you hear/read this.
ianrose
ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 12:46pm
Animal rights groups range all the way from extremely nice and well-intentioned people to absolute crazies. Anyone willing to threaten a human life over animal testing deserves to be put away for a very long time, and the non-crazy element of the animal rights movement realizes that the worst thing you can do for any movement is to make yourself look like extremist terrorist nutjobs, which is exactly what the ALF (hehe, Alf) do.
DaddyDom
DaddyDom on Jan 27 '08 at 12:46pm
are you speaking of Rife?
DaddyDom
DaddyDom on Jan 27 '08 at 12:47pm
that was to shirt
Mike4507
Mike4507 on Jan 27 '08 at 12:48pm
If he read it somewhere on the internet it makes it more valid?

You're reading it on the internet right now.

Because of that, it's truth.
phones
phones on Jan 27 '08 at 12:48pm
it's been a long day....
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 12:48pm
ells, it's amazing how easily people are trained!

i mean, one example off the top of my head, is our medical industry. now, logically, a medical industry is there to help people get healthy right? anyone with half a brain realizes that this is not our medical industry's priority and yet, if you suggest something like; our medical industry is about making money by keeping people reliant upon it, never procuring their health or taking preventive measures but always reacting, you'd be crazy.

well fuck it i guess im crazy. and my kid will be crazy too when he's born. crazier, with wilder, stupid to the masses ideas as well. then i'll know he'll be doing fine.
Lucretia Mott
Lucretia Mott on Jan 27 '08 at 12:49pm
TEH INTATWEBZ!!!


Actually, Ron Paul probably told him. And as we know, Ron Paul is god.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 12:49pm
nah, i'll find the books i was reading my freshman year in college around 1996. sorry, it wasn't on the interweb, mike.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 12:51pm
no dom, but i'm going to read more about that.
i assume there was something wrong with him like he didn't subscribe to the church or disagreed with a king or something so he's now fully discredited.
peater
peater on Jan 27 '08 at 12:51pm
A senior member of ALF, Jerry Vlasak, is actually a trauma surgeon by training (wtf).

he applied for a job at my dad's hospital (who's on the board that hires new MDs)...

they had an interesting interview.
Chipmnk
Chipmnk on Jan 27 '08 at 12:51pm
DaddyDom
DaddyDom on Jan 27 '08 at 12:52pm
I'd say that there is ample information out there, from our medical industry and others, to help us live a healthy lifestyle. We're just too lazy to actually follow them.
Now, if we're talking about PHARMACEUTICAL companies...that's where you're "reliance" factor comes in.

Again, regarding cancer, are you speaking of Rife?
matchstick
matchstick on Jan 27 '08 at 12:53pm
Speaking of crazy animal activists, have any of you read Ingrid Newkirk's will?

I find it tremendously entertaining.
ianrose
ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 12:53pm
I'm sure there's a cheap joke in here somewhere about an animal rights group named after an alien that eats cats, but I'll be damned if I can find it.
DaddyDom
DaddyDom on Jan 27 '08 at 12:54pm
nvrmnd on the "Rife" question.
tesco
   tesco on Jan 27 '08 at 12:55pm


MERCURY IN THE VACCINES!!!1
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 12:56pm
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 12:51pm
no dom, but i'm going to read more about that.
i assume there was something wrong with him like he didn't subscribe to the church or disagreed with a king or something so he's now fully discredited.


our medical industry's diet is based on the bullshit food pyramid; hardly reliable seeing as the dairy group was created to get people to buy into milk and dairy when the us gov started taking over a majority of america's ranching.
Ellsswhere
   Ellsswhere on Jan 27 '08 at 12:56pm
i am a realist though shirt, i dont believe in these crazy masterminds that plan this all out... i think we are all just people who wake up every morning eat our breakfast kiss our wives and go to work, take a dump and masturbate... etc.

Its true pharmaceutical companies don't help people at large but the researchers are really breaking down chemicals or building up compounds to change certain aspects of our bodies chemistry to fix certain ailments. And to say that the 100's of millions that have actually been helped, just because our culture has become far too dependent and now we need 5 other pills to counteract the effects of just one pill does not mean a company is withholding the cure for cancer.

Its true we do have cures for cancer, but they do not work for everyone and thats why the success rate is not that great. Im sorry I just realistically cannot envision some board of people sitting in some fancy office debating how they do not want to give out the cure for cancer for monetary reasons or control, it seems far too contrived and evil for any human to truly believe.
Lucretia Mott
Lucretia Mott on Jan 27 '08 at 12:57pm
There's a huge difference between scientific research and the pharmaceutical industry. I understand people who are weary of some drugs, especially ones that alter the effect of neurotransmitters, but uh...cancer is not a frequency....
DaddyDom
DaddyDom on Jan 27 '08 at 12:58pm
So are you saying that milk and dairy aren't viable sources of nutrients?
maddingo
maddingo on Jan 27 '08 at 12:58pm
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ianrose
ianrose on Jan 27 '08 at 12:59pm
That's the thing, Ells. I agree - the problem with vast conspiracies is that they always assume the conspirators to be this monolithic force that all think the same. In reality, there are good doctors and bad doctors. There are good scientists and bad scientists. There are good businesspeople and bad businesspeople.

Granted, there only seem to be bad HMOs.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 1:00pm
uh, yeah, cancer, our bodies, water...the entire universe is a frequency, mott


i hear what your saying ells, and i agree to an extent about the 'mastermindery' of it all which is far fetched in my opinion as well. but then again i don't. stuff does't get this bad and one sided on it's own.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jan 27 '08 at 1:01pm
did i say that dom?
iDanSimpson
iDanSimpson on Jan 27 '08 at 1:01pm
"your" ≠ "you are"
Lucretia Mott
Lucretia Mott on Jan 27 '08 at 1:02pm
Ahahahaha lolllllll

cancer is a frequency!!!!!!

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