it's already gone to hell



we're just fanning flames now



also, did you know that Al-Qaida is an American construct?

I remember something about it, I think but I might be confusing them with the talbiban.



I know things have been going to hell for a while, its just today everything seems to have happened at once.

don't underestimate the potential of the CIA being behind all these things, either.

Also, I know I had $5 in my wallet earlier, and now it's gone. I blame the CIA. *tinfoil hat*

losing your money is also a federal issue.

this is what happens when pakistan doesn't comply with us: we use nationals, trained by CIA ops to carry out an attack which will enrage the rest of the world...



this isn't the first time this kind of action goes on.



of course, gtoast doesn't wear a tin hat so his brain won't comprehend the possibility of his dear country doing anything wrong to anyone.

Oh, it's not that I can't comprehend that we might do something wrong.



I just thing that you're making wild, sensationalist accusations without so much a fiber of evidence simply to fit your (probably) immutable and (definitely) pre-conceived world view.



I expected a more tempered response when facts are lacking, shirt, and not all this conclusion-jumping.

That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes,

an aeroplane - Lenny Bruce is not afraid.

Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn,

world serves its own needs, dummy serve your own needs.

Feed it off an aux speak,, grunt, no, strength,

The ladder starts to clatter with fear fight down height.

Wire in a fire, representing seven games, a government for hire and a combat site.

Left of west and coming in a hurry with the furies breathing down your neck.

Team by team reporters baffled, trumped, tethered cropped.

Look at that low playing!

Fine, then.

Uh oh, overflow, population, common food, but it'll do.

Save yourself, serve yourself. World serves its own needs, listen to your heart bleed dummy with the rapture and the revered and the right - right.

You vitriolic, patriotic, slam, fight, bright light, feeling pretty psyched.



It's the end of the world as we know it.

It's the end of the world as we know it.

It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.

So that's how the lyrics for that song go.

Today has been the the worst day I can think of.

My uncle died this morning, so I'm adding that to my list of Why Today Sucks.

shirtflirt on Nov 27 '08 at 1:31pm

don't underestimate the potential of the CIA being behind all these things, either.



You dont really believe that, do you?

shirtflirt on Nov 27 '08 at 1:31pm

don't underestimate the potential of the CIA being behind all these things, either.



You dont really believe that, do you?

of course not, welsh....of course we'd never start a civil war or other type of war for our benefit. never. ever.

oh and gtoast, we have a long record of doing this type of thing. that's the evidence.





but you're right, i should wait for the CIA to start admitting where it's put it's hands on something to the detriment of other nations. you're absolutely right.

haha.

the timing is all a little bit apt...

the whole al qaida thing, then the attacks...

I don't know, i'll wait for the next version of loose change.

i guess i appear negative for having a dissenting voice?

I just dont understand the popularity in the UK & USA of always blaming government/councils/anyone other than the actual perpetrators of the crime.

What reason would the CIA have for setting this up?

false flag policy...



terrorism = patriotism = justification for going wherever we want and taking all the oil.

But....Pakistan dosent have any oil. Infact, Pakistan could be considered one of the 'good guys'. They have offered support & cooperation in the 'fight against terrorism', and are a major contributor of UN forces.

yeah, but unfortunately pakistan has ben adopted as the home for the majority of the muslim extremist terrorist camps...



as for the mumbai attacks my guess would be that after the whole "al qaida is a fake" issue, they needed to prove it was real. and suddenly there are these terrorist attacks being linked to "al qaida"...

I don't think this has been linked to Al Quaida (yet). Much more likely to be something to do with Kashmir. But I'm sure governments will make tenuous connections anyway, even if they're not there.

But still noone has actually explained why the CIA would choose to set up terrorist attacks in India which would threaten the already rubbish relationship between India & Pakistan? Why would they need to prove Al Queda is real? What possible reason would they have for choosing India?



I wish people would actually think things through before getting all media hyped & making silly panic inducing comments.

It said on the BBC news today they're already linking it to al qaida lol, that is the BBC though haha.



and



1)why the CIA would choose to set up terrorist attacks in India which would threaten the already rubbish relationship between India & Pakistan?

2)Why would they need to prove Al Queda is real?

3)What possible reason would they have for choosing India?



1) So the US can sidle up with India and have justification for the attacks they've been making all along.

2) Because if Al Qaida is proved to be an american fabrication, it could be the start of the whole web of lies and conspiracy unravelling

3) see 1



this is all speculation, I literally know little to none about foreign politics.

I'm not in any way saying I know whats going on, or this is the truth. It's just the opinion of one paranoid observer lol.

shirtflirt on Nov 27 '08 at 2:49pm

oh and gtoast, we have a long record of doing this type of thing. that's the evidence.



That's not evidence, that's precedent.

ok. i'll just wait for the CIA to start taking 'credit' for their 'actions'.



welsh, it's not about pakistan so much...as it is about hitting financial sectors.

world's getting safer and no mistake

I've already started digging the hole so I can just stick my head in it. I don't watch as the world implodes.

the world is isn't imploding...you know when a child doesn't get exactly what it wants and it starts throwing a tempertantrum without any regard for anything in the vicinity? that's whats going on now...yeah, some random 'terrorists' just happened to attack the relatively bustling financial sector in southwest Asisa...total coincidence as the rest of the global market is trying to recover from over exanding itself.



i will say the jewish culture/religion is quite amazing; 5 out of the 170 dead were jewish and there is a conference being held in Brooklyn to address the incident. hopefully though it doesn't turn into a 'they attacked US' because they, are attacking the entire world through this relatively small current problem.

Well, I'm not going to just wait for you to take "creidt" for your "actions". So I'll just accuse you of being involved in the Mumbai attacks, with just as much evidence as you have against the CIA.



C'mon, shirt. We know you don't trust the government. But your knee-jerk conspiracy-theory reactions make you look silly. At least when you claim Bush ordered 9/11 you waited until there was a sketchy you-tube video as "evidence".



You've got nothing but your own lunatic rantings on this one.

right. time will tell.



and yeah. a jumbo jet airliner crashed into the pentagon...if you believe that that's on you. i shouldn't have to convince anyone of the simple impossibility of the 'actual story'.

right. time will tell.



And when you have some evidence, I'll listen. Till then...

haha, while you wait for 'evidence' the game keeps going on.

and who's 'evidence' you gonna believe?



cnn's?

bbc's?

our governments?



who's 'legitimate' in your mind?

haha, while you wait for 'evidence' the game keeps going on.



Good point! Screw guilt or innocence, let the witch burning begin! Now where'd I leave my pitchfork...

the guardian?

wall street journal?

new york times?

la times?

msnbc?



who do you wait for to tell you what's going on?



i'm curious

it's ashame you see it as a witch hunt...because, since 9/11 our nation has been...on a witch hunt.

shirtflirt, you are the king of ambiguous comments. I really REALLY want you to explain to me why the CIA would do this. What do you mean 'hitting financial sectors'.

well, if you're still unfamiliar with the term 'financial sector' after 9/11 perhaps you should do a little research first.

i will say the jewish culture/religion is quite amazing; 5 out of the 170 dead were jewish and there is a conference being held in Brooklyn to address the incident.



why is that amazing. a jewish center was attacked.

i hadn't heard that the rabbi was from brooklyn.

the taj mahal was attacked too.



and other buildings.



and two virginains were killed. why isn't the state of virginia holding a press conference?

i thought you knew everything.

the center that was attacked was the chabad house. the press conference was held at chabad world headquarters, which happen to be in brooklyn.



why is this "amazing?"

What a mature retort. First you claimed it was to do with Pakistans 'non-compliance', then its to do with 'hitting financial sectors'.

What financial sectors? Why do you keep avoiding my simple question? Could it be that you actually havent thought it through?

And whilst youre answering that, could you also explain why 9/11 would have bolstered my understand of the term 'financial sectors'? You'd be surprised at all the basic stuff they teach you outside of the USA.

I resent loose change being called a sketchy youtube video...

snakeman i thought you knew everything?



welshalex, the world trade centers were the symbolic landmarks of the global economy here in the states. in reality they're just buildings, obviously. but what they represent is something bigger.



bombay/mumbai is India's financial sector and despite the recent plummeting trend in British/American finances, India's has remained somewhat level.



now, i understand in your frustration it's easier to lash out and call people mature/immature and then throw a casual cunty riff towards american education; potentially the largest target of americas shortcomings besides our growing waistlines, you should try and crack a book or two and get off the interweb where most people just regurgitate eachothers benign vomit in a rectilinear type of progression. ya dig?



snakeman i thought you knew everything?

i do know everything.



i just thought you were my brother in knowing everything. but now it's like i'm uma thurman and you're ethan hawke and i just found out you're not supposed to be at gattaca. but i will still have your baby because you're hot.

But....but....you still havent explained why the CIA would do this, what would they possibly gain?



Youre like one of those politicians who just waffles on rather than actually answering Jeremy Paxmans question.



I think I give up....

the cia doesn't gain anything but the silent pride of knowing you started something that you'll never be directly attached to.