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Oct 07 '08 by stubby43
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Scientists Discover Fish in Act of Evolution in Africa’s Greatest Lake

In what could be a first in the world, a fish species known as cichlids has been observed by scientists in the act of splitting into two distinct species in Lake Victoria, Africa’s largest lake and one of the world’s biggest fresh water bodies.

This may be remarkable because what is causing them to diverge are adaptations to their vision as animals and plants try to cope with increased pollution and the effects of climate change. The change is also happening without geographical isolation, which was thought to be a precursor for evolution.

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Malcolm Man on Oct 07 '08 at 3:40pm

The fucking scientists did this. They're trying to cover up the truth.

DaddyDom on Oct 07 '08 at 3:40pm

is that evolution, or mutation?

ginetteginette on Oct 07 '08 at 3:40pm

YES

ISABOA on Oct 07 '08 at 3:41pm

wow - someone designed those fish very intelligently

ginetteginette on Oct 07 '08 at 3:41pm

don't evolution and mutation co-exist?

Malcolm Man on Oct 07 '08 at 3:41pm

It's the fucking scientist. They've been fucking the fish.

Malcolm Man on Oct 07 '08 at 3:42pm

I think the fish are mechanical.

ginetteginette on Oct 07 '08 at 3:42pm

how else do you expect scientists to create mermaids malcolm?

Malcolm Man on Oct 07 '08 at 3:42pm

I think the fish are made of gelatin.

Malcolm Man on Oct 07 '08 at 3:42pm

I want to marry a mermaid.

DaddyDom on Oct 07 '08 at 3:42pm

I'm not sure, ginette. I feel like maybe it isn't completely agreed upon. but I could be wrong.

DaddyDom on Oct 07 '08 at 3:44pm

i mean, if you take thalidomide and your children are born without arms and legs, is that evolution?

ginetteginette on Oct 07 '08 at 3:44pm

i'm not good at sciencez :(

DaddyDom on Oct 07 '08 at 3:44pm

only for people named "Bob"

ginetteginette on Oct 07 '08 at 3:45pm

no that's a mutation

but if that mutation is benefitial and those armless legless people start breeding (somehow?) then, i guess that's where evolution comes in, no?

DaddyDom on Oct 07 '08 at 3:45pm

it's ok, I really don't know...I just "feel"

producer on Oct 07 '08 at 3:45pm

mutalution

ISABOA on Oct 07 '08 at 3:46pm

the scientists are racist to african fish

DaddyDom on Oct 07 '08 at 3:46pm

so, we ignore all of the bad mutations and call them mutations, but if it's a good mutation it's evolution?

stubby43 on Oct 07 '08 at 3:47pm

Ginette's pretty much right, but the other thing to take into account is that its happening across the speices, mutations are normally one off things but in the case of these fish its happening at the same time, in the same way across the board.

Jellyes on Oct 07 '08 at 3:47pm

mermaids were found evolving in lake victoria? made of gelatin?

where do zebra cakes come into the equation?

ginetteginette on Oct 07 '08 at 3:47pm

if it's benefitial to the survival of said species it is. i think. please don't take my word for it. this is just how i've always understood it/how it makes sense in my brainz.

BaronVonMonkey on Oct 07 '08 at 3:48pm

mutation = one off

evolution = passed on

DaddyDom on Oct 07 '08 at 3:49pm

well...they ARE all in the same lake...

Malcolm Man on Oct 07 '08 at 3:50pm

I don't believe that mutations can be considered evolution being that they are completely random and influenced by elements that have been recently introduced in to the environment, You don't mutate over millions of years.

You may have a fortunate mutation, or you may end up with something awkward like a penis on your forehead.

Evolution is a slow adaptive process that is always benefiting the organism and improving it's chances or survival.

I go get drunky now.

producer on Oct 07 '08 at 3:51pm

lol@penis on your forehead ^

DaddyDom on Oct 07 '08 at 3:52pm

may you quickly mutate into a drunken whore

producer on Oct 07 '08 at 3:53pm

i know i will

ginetteginette on Oct 07 '08 at 3:54pm

so i guess mutation, by definition, is like 1.92834032% of evolution or something...

i guess i dunno what anything means.

DaddyDom on Oct 07 '08 at 3:55pm

we are in the same boat, ginette. we're floating around lake victoria. the fish are glowing.

Jellyes on Oct 07 '08 at 3:55pm

mutation is a quantitative process

evolution is a qualitative concept

Malcolm Man on Oct 07 '08 at 3:55pm

That's way too many fucking numbers. Anytime you have to introduce that amount of crazy numbers into your explanation to prove that you're right; it's a sure sign that you're wrong.

producer on Oct 07 '08 at 3:57pm

you are 18.709930% correct

Malcolm Man on Oct 07 '08 at 3:57pm

fuck numbers.

zipperking on Oct 07 '08 at 3:58pm

it's not evolution, it's just adaptation. If I decided to go live in a cave for the rest of my life, my eyes would adapt as well. Now if it starts to turn into a damn frog...then they've got somethin.

producer on Oct 07 '08 at 3:59pm

a thousand beams of light

professorE on Oct 07 '08 at 4:01pm

where do zebra cakes come into the equation?

Hahahahaha! I'm gonna wait to eat my last two until you are watching!!!

zipperking on Oct 07 '08 at 4:02pm

point taken opifan64...but i'll start believing in evolution when science produces a single legitimate transitional form in the fossil record.

ginetteginette on Oct 07 '08 at 4:04pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitional_fossil ?

ISABOA on Oct 07 '08 at 4:05pm

OMG GINETTE FOUND THE EVIDENCE!

Jellyes on Oct 07 '08 at 4:07pm

a species is defined as two organisms that can reproduce, so zipper is right that it will only be an adaptation until the two fishes can no longer make offspring.

It's weird that they're adapting so quickly, though!

also, malcolm, you're right, except mutations are the cause of evolution. Those specific changes in DNA that happen during creation of an offspring sometimes lead, over time, to evolution. Not all the time, like you said, but sometimes!

ginetteginette on Oct 07 '08 at 4:07pm

i learned how to use google today :)

lordog on Oct 07 '08 at 4:08pm

evolotion is party due to survival of the fittest...if a mutation happens to be beneficial to a species and helps it survive, those genes that caused the mutation will most likely be passed on and become more frequent in future generations of the species. if not, the mutated freaks die off and nothing comes of it.

ISABOA on Oct 07 '08 at 4:09pm

but what about the X gene?

Jellyes on Oct 07 '08 at 4:10pm

but honestly, evolution won't ever 100% be proven by humans for a few million years. Chances are, our changing of the planet will cause species to change over long, long, long periods of time, but until that time we're just going to be able to pose it as a rational concept.

I don't get why they're trying to act like they can prove it with these fishes who can see a little better now:[

Jellyes on Oct 07 '08 at 4:12pm

I mean, I believe in evolution...no logical reason not to, but this def. doesn't provide anymore evidence for its case

Jellyes on Oct 07 '08 at 4:12pm

and professore, I hate you.

zipperking on Oct 07 '08 at 4:13pm

thanks ginette...but I have no problem with the evidence of a small horse becoming a big horse like they exampled. To me that is not "evolution". I was thinking more of the bacteria becoming a human type of evolution.

Malcolm Man on Oct 07 '08 at 4:13pm

Jellyes just made me smarter.

I dun gone and learnt somethin'! I hate when that happens!

Jellyes on Oct 07 '08 at 4:15pm

zipperking, you need to play spore. then all will make sense.

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