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Well were almost ready to get this round of pic it forward started, sorry about all of the delays, getting things going has proved a little bit more challenging than I thought it would but anyway lets get things started!

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To make things easier (its a big blog post) I've split the updates into sections on the pic it forward blog and put the quick links here.

Its very, very important that you read everything:

I need a list of every photo

Learning the limits of the camera (and film)

General tips for an awesome time!




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But before we get going there are a few things I need to clear up to make the project easier for everyone.




really need you guys to put together a list explaining the photos:


Who took which photo
What you’re calling the photo
When you took them
Where you took them

And a little bit about them , doesn’t have to be anything too huge and I realise a lot of this is covered in the above description but I’m basically working on the idea that the more you can tell us about each photo/set of photos. Maybe something interesting happened when you took the photo or maybe the place you took it has some kind of emotional meaning to you, I just think it’ll be something cool to read.

I’ll take photos of the notes and uploaded them as well as type them up (to the best of my ability for everyone to see.

How many shots do we get each?


Well there’s no set answer but the rule of thumb is the amount of exposures (the amount of shots) divided by the number of people on a route.

If a camera has 27 exposures and there’s 5 people in a route (roughly average for a route) then its 5.4 which of course doesn’t divide very well but it means each person has five photos with two left over.



Using the camera

Disposable camera were designed to be easy to use in a pre digital age which meant that they tried to design it so that almost everything was done for you which as a result means that were using a very limited medium but if we learn more about the cameras then we can push those limits.

So what do we need to keep in mind?

A disposable camera uses a fixed focus lens, its focusing distances is roughly 4 or 5 feet away from you’re subject to infinity.

With a disposable camerayou cant change the focus which means that if you try to shoot any close up’s they will appear blurred but you’ll have no way of knowing because you cant check the photos.

So what does this mean?

Well disposable cameras do tend to favour landscape shots but as long as your careful and keep the subject 4 or 5 feet away then you’ll be fine doing portrait shots.

Understanding film

Film speed is a measurement of how sensitive a film is to light. A film that is highly sensitive to light is called a fast film, a film with a low sensitivity is a slow film.

The most common way to quantify film speed is according to its ISO speed (international standards organisation) rating.

A film with a higher ISO number needs less light to properly capture an image that a film witha lower ISO number .

For example ISO 400 film is more sensitive to light than ISO 100, it will take 4 times more light to properly expose ISO 100 film as it will take to properly expose ISO 400 film.

Things to consider:


ISO 400 tends to be the most common film speed we see in disposable cameras because it’s the most versatile; it’s good for dimly lit outdoor conditions and in doors.

If your doing night time photography be aware that you’d normally need to use at least a 1600 or even 3200 speed film to capture night shots without using a flash and when you do use a flash it only captures the object directly in front of the lense.

General rules for an awesome time:


01 Take your camera everywhere

You never know when the perfect photo will appear.

02 Its a part of your life not an interfeance

Going out on purpose to take photos is cool, don’t get me wrong even I did that but sometimes its just nice to catch those random moments around you.

03 find the awesome

Go out and find those places in your world that make you think wow, I live here and show it to us!


04 Shoot at a jaunty angle

One of the joys of film is you never know exactly what your taking photos of, so why not surprise yourself and take the photo at the hip?


05 don’t think

The photos that happen by chance are amazing because they’re a time capsule of what was happening at that moment.

06 think big

Some of the greatest photographs in the world are works where the artist has spent a long time crafting the piece, setting up lighting, adding props and dressing models. If your going to plan a shoot think big.

07 have fun!

Seriously what’s the point if you don’t?



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stubby43
stubby43 on Aug 22 '08 at 5:57pm
Check out our blog



I'm planning on using the blog to host all the photos from now on so its alot less confusing (dont worry they'll still be stored on flickr).
radiostaticstar
radiostaticstar on Aug 23 '08 at 6:03am
all sent, very cool stubby!
stubby43
stubby43 on Aug 23 '08 at 6:56am
Awesome glad to have you on board.
radiostaticstar
radiostaticstar on Aug 23 '08 at 7:33am
i'm excited to see my route's camera from the last go 'round.



the best part,

i get to see them before anyone else because i get to have them developed...
stubby43
stubby43 on Aug 23 '08 at 1:26pm
I know I cant wait to see the last of the routes for this round, we've had some pretty decent ones:



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stubby43
stubby43 on Aug 24 '08 at 5:20pm
I have enough members for one route I'm thinking about releasing that route to start off with but of course were always looking for more members.
midi-chlorinated
midi-chlorinated on Aug 24 '08 at 5:22pm
Hey Phil, I emailed you a couple of weeks ago when you told people to email you for another go at this. Do you still have it or do you want me to email again?
stubby43
stubby43 on Aug 24 '08 at 5:29pm
Hey I got your email, I'm just going to add you to the list.
stubby43
stubby43 on Aug 24 '08 at 5:30pm
Oh are you willing to buy a camera or print?
midi-chlorinated
midi-chlorinated on Aug 24 '08 at 5:31pm
Yeah, I'm willing to do either.
stubby43
stubby43 on Aug 24 '08 at 5:34pm
Sweet welcome aboard.
radiostaticstar
radiostaticstar on Aug 25 '08 at 8:06am
hey stubby,

i was poking around looking at buying some film online.

most of the places i've looked at have boasted about shipping in an x-ray protective bag.



i thought that might be something to look into using if another international route was started and if x-ray was still an issue.



do you know of such a thing?



after some more poking around,

i can't seem to find where the bags are individually sold. they must be somewhere.

both google and ebay searches have failed me.



i figured i may have to go all "old fashioned"

and call up some of the local photo shops to see what they know.



just a thought...
EFDisaster
EFDisaster on Aug 25 '08 at 2:50pm
800 speed film is the fastest that's susceptible to damage by x-ray and the 800 speed camera that I just developed couldn't really handle low-light situations anyway... so I don't think there's any need to buy 800 speed or faster cameras. Try to find a 400 and realize the limitations of these little guys... my $.02
stubby43
stubby43 on Aug 26 '08 at 11:46am
Radio thanks for the suggestion but efdisaters right, as long as its below 800 speed film it should be fine, I'm planning on being alot stricter (well give alot better buying advice) for cameras.



This time people need to buy a 400 speed camera and make sure it had 36 exposures (so it divdes as well as possible).



But thanks for the suggestion, we might need to buy them later on say if people bought a film and posted it to each other.
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Aug 26 '08 at 11:50am
Most of the stores I've seen selling disposable cameras have had fewer than 36 shots... Should I be in line to buy a camera, I could look around some more, but... Just saying.



Also, would anyone be interested in doing one or two longer routes where you get one picture per person? That might be interesting. The risk is there for more opportunities to lose it, but I think the payoff would be worth it if it worked out.
stubby43
stubby43 on Aug 26 '08 at 11:56am
Hmm, well I worked in a photography lab for about 4 months and rolls were either 27 or 36 shots but that could be a UK thing.



As for doing one or two longer routes I'd be up for organising it but it might be better to only have proven people in them other than that I'm happy to set up whatever you guys want and I think the results could be interesting.
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Aug 26 '08 at 12:24pm
yeah, pretty much all I've happened to see are 27 exp disposable cameras, but I'll check someplace that isn't a pharmacy and see if they've got more.



Or certainly I could organize the longer one, and yeah, try to use known blogger names and that way it'll be representative of a larger slice of the threadless community.



stubby43
stubby43 on Aug 26 '08 at 4:22pm
I shouldnt of said stricter that came off badly.



If its only possible to get 27 exp, get 27 just tell us so we can divide the shots better, if its 27 everyone should have 5 shots and the last person should have a few left over.
AlixAri
AlixAri on Aug 26 '08 at 4:57pm
did you get my email?
stubby43
stubby43 on Aug 26 '08 at 5:01pm
yup yup, sorry for not getting back to you your on the list I just need to organise it.
10 days later
stubby43
stubby43 on Sep 05 '08 at 5:13pm
Yup yup, i just emailed all the info out cant wait for everything to get started.
EFDisaster
EFDisaster on Sep 06 '08 at 9:08am
I'm excited
radiostaticstar
radiostaticstar on Sep 06 '08 at 9:16am
excellent! yeah for round 3!
stubby43
stubby43 on Sep 06 '08 at 9:47am
I'm stoked, should of kicked started this a while ago.
stubby43
stubby43 on Sep 06 '08 at 3:27pm
Just updated the blog with the routes!
midi-chlorinated
midi-chlorinated on Sep 06 '08 at 10:18pm
Nice. Sent you an email.
jet approves
jet approves on Sep 06 '08 at 10:24pm
cool! so did we decide on a theme?
AlixAri
AlixAri on Sep 06 '08 at 11:14pm
yeah are we doing a theme?
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Sep 07 '08 at 12:04am
Who is Tim Henton?
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Sep 07 '08 at 12:05am
I think he meant different themes per route? So if people wanted to set up individual route blogs, they could talk about it there, perhaps.
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Sep 07 '08 at 12:06am
As in, each route with its own theme.
thedarrien
thedarrien on Sep 07 '08 at 12:39am
got your email--I'm on board!
bhoomika
bhoomika on Sep 07 '08 at 12:45am
I keep missing to sign up for this :-(
stubby43
stubby43 on Sep 07 '08 at 5:21am
Hey everyone, yup I meant a different theme per route, of course if we dont want to do that then we can go with a simple show us your world.



Tim's a friend from home I was talking to a few people on facebook and he was quite interested in taking part but he doesnt have a threadless account so the only way to talk to him is through email.

stubby43
stubby43 on Sep 07 '08 at 7:34am
Oh Bhoomika send an email, there's a chance a place might come availble at some point its hard to say right now.
stubby43
stubby43 on Sep 08 '08 at 6:18am
Right so lets get the discussion about themes going.



The obvious thing to do would be to post an item with the camera and hide the object in every single photo, so it would turn into a sort of wheres wally/waldow game.



Or people could take a photo at the exact same time (obviously on a different day) eg on thursday at 7pm.



Or you could do cool stuff like the world at my feet, all of you take photos of ground (maybe not all the photos).



Or the world above so pointing the camera at the sky but trying to capture buildings.
mezo
   mezo on Sep 08 '08 at 10:26am
I like the idea of doing times!
midi-chlorinated
midi-chlorinated on Sep 08 '08 at 3:35pm
I like the hidden item theme and the same time theme.
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Sep 08 '08 at 3:40pm
yeah, I like the same time, especially if people don't plan it. Just where ever you happen to be and whatever you happen to be doing, snap a photo.
stubby43
stubby43 on Sep 08 '08 at 3:54pm
That would be a cool idea.



I was also thinking of putting together an advice blog, like a top ten tips kind of like lomography.



Stuff like shoot from the hip and always have your camera with you.



You could carry the camera around with you for a couple of days then pull it out at a certain time and take whatevers there dont think too much about the photo (or you could think alot I wonder what a big set up would look like on a disposable camera).



I guess what I'm saying is experiment.
bhoomika
bhoomika on Sep 08 '08 at 7:43pm
i replied your email...

TheRopewalker
TheRopewalker on Sep 09 '08 at 3:46pm
Hey there guys! I am the illusive Tim Henton that's starting off round three. I really like the sound of taking every shot at the same time. How many shots does each person get on the camera? Would we have enough shots to each do the same time every day for a week?
stubby43
stubby43 on Sep 09 '08 at 3:50pm
Hey Tim hows it going (p.s I'll be mailing you shortly) welcome to the blogs.



If you got a 27 exposure camera on your route it would be 4 photos each roughly speaking (though that means one person has 3) it divides to 4.5 but anyway if you buy a 36 exp then thats 6 photos each so just shy of a week.

TheRopewalker
TheRopewalker on Sep 09 '08 at 4:03pm
Is that including bhoomika's late entry?
stubby43
stubby43 on Sep 09 '08 at 4:26pm
yup yup, cause a routes normal 5 people but were going to 6 this time.
radiostaticstar
radiostaticstar on Sep 10 '08 at 2:06am
i'm a fan of the same times idea, sounds like it could be cool...
AlixAri
AlixAri on Sep 10 '08 at 12:24pm
yeah i think i like the time idea
stubby43
stubby43 on Sep 10 '08 at 12:53pm
How would people feel about doing a set time per route, eg each route has a different time?
asfi235
asfi235 on Sep 10 '08 at 3:43pm
P.S from now on this is the main pic it forward blog for this route only post in this one to save confusion.



Good plan!



How would people feel about doing a set time per route, eg each route has a different time?



Could be very interesting!
TheRopewalker
TheRopewalker on Sep 11 '08 at 8:03am
RIGHT! Me and the missus went out yesterday and bought the camera for route 3.

It's a Kodak Fun Flash with [drumroll] 39 exposures!!!

That gives everybody on the route 6 shots, with three spare.

Also, I am ITCHING to get shooting asap, so is there any chance we could agree on the theme asap?

There seems to pretty much be a consensus on the time idea, but what time are we talking about? I was thinking around 3pm would be a pretty decent time because everyone will be up at this time every day (hopefully!) and its not near a meal time or anything, so we wont end up with a book full of food pics.

Also, are we taking all of our pics on consecutive days? I think it would be pretty cool to take a pic every day for 6 days so there is a time-specific cohesion amongst the pics. Maybe we could even all do the same days. So maybe Monday to Saturday at 3pm?



Christ, I don't half ramble!

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