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stubby43
stubby43 aka Phil is a 25.42 year old boy, has been a member since December 22, 2006, has scored 3,809 submissions, giving an average score of 2.65, helping 191 designs get printed.
After all this talk about writing novels and what not I decided it was time to get my head down and actually start working on the story I've been wanting to tell for a while so I've been spending a long time trying to write character biographys so I can understand them better.

My main female protagonist has discovered that she's growing wings, she's not sure if shes x-men or ET but she does know that she has to hide them.

What I'm trying to work out is if it would be painful how quickly it would happen and how it would happen.

Would the bones grow out of the back slowly and then get feathers or would it they grow with feathers so there recognisable as wings.

I want her to have problems and something to hide but I dont want to make her too weak.

Mr Anonymous
Mr Anonymous on Jun 21 '08 at 8:10pm
bones grow on skeleton trees
Mr Anonymous
Mr Anonymous on Jun 21 '08 at 8:11pm
skeleton trees... that's not a bad idea for a shirt design. to the photoshop, boy wonder!
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Jun 21 '08 at 8:12pm
You raise some interesting questions. I have nothing to offer, but good luck!
Mr Anonymous
Mr Anonymous on Jun 21 '08 at 8:15pm
but seriously, think of baby birds. they are born (or hatched) without feathers. i would imagine that a person growing wings would look at the growths early on and think, " why do i have fingers growing out of my back? " you may want to consult a skelatal chart for both humans and birds.
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Jun 21 '08 at 8:17pm
It would be incredibly painful, IMHO.



And with that nugget of opinion gold, I bid you all adieu.
fatheed
   fatheed on Jun 21 '08 at 8:21pm
Stan Lee called...
cassiepaige
cassiepaige on Jun 21 '08 at 8:24pm
Painful, but probably dull aches, not sharp pains.

Grow featherless.

tracerbullet
   tracerbullet on Jun 21 '08 at 8:24pm
birds have hollow bones. her wings would have to have hollow bones.
goldensara
goldensara on Jun 21 '08 at 8:29pm
yeah, also I think all of her bones have to be hollow right? so that she will be able to fly. either that or the wings will have to be really really huge.
fatheed
   fatheed on Jun 21 '08 at 8:30pm
Watch X-Men III ! It shows Archangel sprouting his little lumps and freaking out. It's more about the psychological impact than the growning pains.
Steve The Great
Steve The Great on Jun 21 '08 at 8:33pm
it would hurt like a bitch
Mr Anonymous
Mr Anonymous on Jun 21 '08 at 8:38pm
it would probably feel as if the person had huge bone spurs, which i'm told do indeed hurt like a bitch
squatterjohn
squatterjohn on Jun 21 '08 at 8:40pm
At the risk of turning this blog way off topic into 80's territory. She'd probably expereince "growing pains" which is what happens sometimes to teens in puberty years when their bones grow and the tendons and stuff haven't quite caught up. I didn't really experience that, but find someone who did and they may be able to describe how it felt.



A bird's wings are made out of the same bones that make up the "pentadactyl limb" which is an evolutionary feature found in some form in pretty much all land vertebrates. The same bones thatmake up a human's hand etc have been reduced in a bird as part of the wings. They grow in the egg as a human's bone's grow in the womb.



It would be a much different experience growing a new bone or limb than having one you were born with just get bigger as you grow.



I'd look into how a lizard can replace its tail if it falls off.



I think the bones would protrude first, a flap of skin would have to come down too to make the surface of the wing, then feathers would grow onto it, but the feathers could start appearing early, before the wings had fully grown, just so they're less gross. It's a story after all.
alvarejo
   alvarejo on Jun 21 '08 at 8:41pm
this is how bones grow

fatheed
   fatheed on Jun 21 '08 at 8:41pm
Mate - you can make it as quick and painful/less as you like! It's your story, you're the boss! Convince the reader through your narrative. Anything is possible!!!
margolove
margolove on Jun 21 '08 at 8:56pm
I soooo read this as "how do boners grow?"



sorry, jebs!
Malcolm Man
Malcolm Man on Jun 21 '08 at 9:03pm
YEAH! Remember that seen in Night Watchers wher that chick changed from an owl to a person??!?!?!



That's how it would be.
cassiepaige
cassiepaige on Jun 21 '08 at 10:56pm
I had "growing pains" in my legs when I was younger. It was a dull, achy pain for me which is why I suggested that.



You might want to read the Maximum Ride series, or the other series about Bird people by James Patterson.
Kookaberry
   Kookaberry on Jun 21 '08 at 10:59pm
I read it correctly but was going to make a boner joke. If you're going for like...real physics those wings are going to have to be HUGE as well as the bones being hollow as others have mentioned for flight to even be possible for a creature the size of a human.
Kookaberry
   Kookaberry on Jun 21 '08 at 11:03pm
Quetzalcoatlus weighed a max of 100kg and its wingspan was 18 meters.
valorandvellum
   valorandvellum on Jun 21 '08 at 11:04pm
I don't know if the wings have to be huge... I mean, how does a bumble bee fly around? Their wings are relatively tiny compared to their body.
Kookaberry
   Kookaberry on Jun 21 '08 at 11:05pm
The larger the creature gets, the more gravity affects their bodies and the disproportionately larger wings they must have to escape these effects.
Kookaberry
   Kookaberry on Jun 21 '08 at 11:08pm
It's the same principle as to why an ant can lift something 50x its own weight but anything much larger can't at all. Interesting side note, if an ant was the size of a human, it's exoskeleton would collapse under its own weight. I'm getting way too nerdy for this blog now.
valorandvellum
   valorandvellum on Jun 21 '08 at 11:10pm
Does that mean huge airplanes have a larger wing to body ratio than smaller jet planes?
squatterjohn
squatterjohn on Jun 21 '08 at 11:15pm
valorandvellum on Jun 21 '08 at 11:04pm

I mean, how does a bumble bee fly around?




Isn't that a motivational slogan? "According to the laws of aerodynamics a bumblebee can't fly" or something. It makes us belive we can achieve the impossible.
wullagaru
   wullagaru on Jun 21 '08 at 11:18pm
also even if teh bones are hollow the muscles in her chest, back and shoulders would be huge and grossly disproportionate to teh rest of her
Kookaberry
   Kookaberry on Jun 22 '08 at 12:39am
V&V: The mechanisms of flight in airplanes is much different than those in animals. Animal wings have to pump up and down. Airplanes provide thrust and their wings provide lift due to their aerodynamic design. So if you strapped a jet engine to your butt and had stiff metal wings then I suppose they would not have to be so big. =)
valorandvellum
   valorandvellum on Jun 22 '08 at 12:40am
I see... so maybe she could have small wings and bad gas.
Kookaberry
   Kookaberry on Jun 22 '08 at 12:42am
She could also glide places like a flying squirrel, perhaps. I think then the wings would not need to be so big, because they are not providing lift, but simply slowing a fall.
Kookaberry
   Kookaberry on Jun 22 '08 at 12:42am
LOL!
Kookaberry
   Kookaberry on Jun 22 '08 at 12:42am
Oh my gosh...Stan Lee would have nothing on that.
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