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The video I posted previously may very well be scaremongering but thats kind of beside the point because it was doing what it set out to do, which was get people to read more about net neutrality.

Its not just a consiparcy theory:

The threat to an open internet isn't just speculation -- we've seen what happens when the Internet's gatekeepers get too much control. These companies, even, have said as much about their plans to discriminate online. According to the Washington Post:

William L. Smith, chief technology officer for Atlanta-based BellSouth Corp., told reporters and analysts that an Internet service provider such as his firm should be able, for example, to charge Yahoo Inc. for the opportunity to have its search site load faster than that of Google Inc.

He's not alone. Ed Whitacre of AT&T told BusinessWeek:

Now what they would like to do is use my pipes free, but I ain't going to let them do that because we have spent this capital and we have to have a return on it. So there's going to have to be some mechanism for these people who use these pipes to pay for the portion they're using. Why should they be allowed to use my pipes?

By far the most significant evidence regarding the network owners' plans to discriminate is their stated intent to do so. As Verizon's Ivan Seidenberg told the Wall Street Journal:

We have to make sure they don't sit on our network and chew up our capacity. We need to pay for the pipe.



But since your not willing to listen to them, how about these sources?

Googles stance on net neutrality



The open internet coalition (googles a member)

Open access is a basic principle of our Internet. The Internet, after all, was invented and built with public tax dollars. All Americans should have the right to use Internet software, sites, and services without the interference of the large telephone and cable companies. But AT&T, Verizon, Comcast and other giants want to change the rules that have made the Internet a success.
Think of the Internet as a superhighway for information where anyone – from Apple’s iTunes to a garage band distributing songs on their own home page -- can gain access to the road. Both the big player and the new entrant can reach individuals, anywhere, on equal footing. But now, AT&T, Verizon and Comcast want to change the rules and put up toll booths on the Internet, despite the fact that all of us already pay hefty, monthly charges for our DSL, cable and fiber optic connections to the Internet.

If the phone and cable companies get their way, websites and online service providers who aren’t able to afford these fees would be put in a slow lane. Large media companies who can pay the tax to use the fast lane would dominate what you can access. The less powerful voices would be lost. That would mean a lot less consumer choice and it would strangle individuals and small companies trying to get their businesses off the ground. The alternative is net neutrality. Simply, net neutrality guarantees that broadband networks cannot use their networks to give preferential fast lane access to any content provider, nor can they slow down content or services that are unable to pay. The Open Internet Coalition seeks to ensure that the transmission of internet traffic remains open, accessible and fast, and does not favor one particular brand or type of content over another.

We aren’t seeking anything new or radical – net neutrality was the law of the land from the Internet’s inception until 2005, when the cable and telephone companies successfully lobbied the Federal Communications Commission to change the rules. We want to preserve the best of the Internet: giving consumers greater choice at the lowest possible cost; ensuring that the Internet’s economic engine keeps moving ahead; protecting innovators and small business; and advancing the founding principles of the Internet.



the current state of net neutrality

Net neutrality is a major issue as the U.S. considers new telecommunications laws. The U.S. House of Representatives passed its telecommunications bill, H.R. 5252, in May, without adequate net neutrality protections. Now the fight has moved to U.S. Senate. On June 28, the Senate Commerce Committee passed its own telecom bill, S. 2686. While an amendment to the bill that would have added meaningful net neutrality safeguards failed 11-11, this tie vote marks a significant political victory and gives the effort new momentum. The debate now shifts to the full Senate, where advocates will be working to get strong net neutrality language is any bill that the Senate considers.

save the internet.com, and click act now

valorandvellum
   valorandvellum on Jun 01 '08 at 8:55pm
If this did ever actually make it to the next level, wouldn't US citizens get to vote on it? I can't imagine anybody voting in favor of something like this.



Plus, the world's still ending in 2012 :-P
atomic child
atomic child on Jun 01 '08 at 8:57pm
i miss the old blog
stubby43
stubby43 on Jun 01 '08 at 9:00pm
It wont go to vote if people dont make an issue out of it, its a similar case to the issue of the UK adopting the euro whilst we as a people dont want it our goverment wont call a refuremdum because if they do it will conclusivly say we dont want the euro, so their trying to sneak it in.



stubby43
stubby43 on Jun 01 '08 at 9:01pm
Theres a pretty major list of members of open internet coalition:



Adaptive Marketing LLC

Aegon Direct Marketing Services

American Association of Law Libraries

American Library Association

Anglebeds.com

Ask.com

Association of Research Libraries

Bloglines

Chemistry.com

Circumedia LLC

Citysearch

CollegeHumor

COMPTEL

Computer & Communications Industry Association

Cornerstone Brands, Inc.

Data Foundry

Domania

Downstream

Dreamsleep.com

Dresses.com

Earthlink

eBay

Educause

Electronic Retailing Association

Entertainment Publications

Evite

Free Press

GetSmart

Gifts.com

GoGawGaw

Google

Hawthorne Direct

HomeLoanCenter.com

HSN

IAC

Iceland Health Inc.

iNest

InPulse Response

Internet2

Interval International

iWon

LendingTree

Livemercial

Match.com

Media Access Project

Media Partners Worldwide

Mercury Media

Merrick Group

NationalBlinds.com

Net Coalition

North Texas Technology Council

PayPal

Product Partners

Pronto.com

Public Knowledge

RealEstate.com

ReserveAmerica

Savvier

ServiceMagic

Shoebuy.com

Shopping.com

Skype

Sling Media

StubHub

Success in the City

TechNet

Ticketmaster

TiVo

Tonystickets.com

Tranquilitymattress.com

US PIRG

Vanguard

Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy

Windward Instruments

YouTube





I'd like to see threadless join, because their buisness would be serriously affected.
stubby43
stubby43 on Jun 01 '08 at 9:11pm
Sorry but I killed the old blog because I was sick of listening to you guys mock an important issue.
Maltzmania
Maltzmania on Jun 01 '08 at 9:20pm
i miss the old blog
Maltzmania
Maltzmania on Jun 01 '08 at 9:20pm
also it's your turn in conquer club
iPear
iPear on Jun 01 '08 at 9:21pm
it's okay because me and maltz are actually developing a new internet called "Chris".
hanzabean
hanzabean on Jun 01 '08 at 9:24pm
I wrote an essay on network neutrality last year. It is a scary issue. I liken it to the spying the feds and sometimes telecom companies already do (and are trying to increase, under the guise of "preventing piracy" or whatever they act like they're going to stop).



ugh.
iPear
iPear on Jun 01 '08 at 9:25pm
I actually did my senior final on Net Neutrality.
stubby43
stubby43 on Jun 01 '08 at 9:32pm
Its increcidbly scary, because the old companies are trying to take back control, the internet provides us with so many incredible opertunities and if the old powers have their way its gone.



we can start our own companies with relative ease but their trying to kill competition and the problem is the market cant fight it because of the extremely high cost of building a network cuts the vast majority of people out.



So the onlyh way to stop them is to fight it now.



and its not just an american issue because if they succeed it will set a precident for the rest of the world. Is it really too much to ask for you guys to sign a petition that protects your rights?
ginetteginette
   ginetteginette on Jun 01 '08 at 9:35pm
the link is effed up
atomic child
atomic child on Jun 01 '08 at 9:36pm
you think a multi billion dollar giant like google would ever let this happen......
stubby43
stubby43 on Jun 01 '08 at 9:39pm
googles just one company facing even bigger companies like AT and T, time warner and comcast they cant win this fight on their own.



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FRICKINAWESOME
   FRICKINAWESOME on Jun 01 '08 at 9:42pm
*makes mocking comment regarding incredibly serious issue*
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