Profile for FlyingFish - Why did scoring finished early on my design??

FlyingFish aka Celia Chung is a girl, has been a member since October 12, 2006, has scored 38 submissions, giving an average score of 3.71, helping 0 designs get printed.

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Jul 16 '08 by FlyingFish
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Why did scoring finished early on my design??

I've been a long-time threadless fan but when it comes to submitting designs I'm a completel newb... so maybe some of you can help me out on this one?

Why was my design up for scoring for only a couple days, and then it just says "finished early"? Is there a target score I must hit or...?

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DaniellesGarden on Jul 16 '08 at 12:15pm

kind of. if it doesnt score well enough or have enough I'd buy it's clicked within the first 24 hrs. it finishes early.

skeev on Jul 16 '08 at 12:16pm

They used to have the "why did this finish ear;y" link to the explanation on the page, I guess they stopped.

It has to average a certain score in the first 24 hours to continue, I don't remember the specifics.

againstbound on Jul 16 '08 at 12:16pm

It wasn't a couple of days, just 1. If your design doesn't get enough positive votes and $s within the first 24 hours it gets dropped out of the competition. Better luck next time.

FlyingFish on Jul 16 '08 at 12:20pm

I see...

Ah well, back to the drawing board for me I guess!

83 days later

gregoreverb on Oct 07 '08 at 2:07pm

Same happened to me. Fucking bogus. They should give it the full 7 days & let it be.

200 days later

ioau on Apr 26 '09 at 12:44pm

Yeah, me too, I even I didn't get to vote on it because I wasn't around to check my email or tell my friends about it. It's up to chance who will be around to vote on it for that first 24hours. Not everyone interested. Seems wrong.

10 days later

residentevilrulz on May 06 '09 at 10:42pm

Yeah, just happened to my design. FUCKING BULL SHIT. There are so many good ideas and so many good designs that get beat out by stupid shit.. Threadless really should start accepting more of the designs that are submitted

brentendo on May 06 '09 at 10:46pm

lol

jpiatt on May 06 '09 at 10:47pm

Get over it you guys. Nobody wants to wade through a bunch of crap that has no shot in hell of ever seeing a silkscreen....

if it gets dropped early just deal with it.

Flying Fish has the right attitude, back to the drawing board! :)

outline on May 06 '09 at 10:48pm

sometimes i love jeremy for saying the things we all want to say

mark722 on May 06 '09 at 10:51pm

Threadless really should start accepting more of the designs that are submitted

Fucking wrong!!!!! Ive seen the most huge amount of bullshit that somehow made it through the screening process recently.

brentendo on May 06 '09 at 10:53pm

over the past week I've given so many zeros

its obscene, and I'm not usually one to vote harshly

jpiatt on May 06 '09 at 10:55pm

Now that I look...I stand corrected...iaou is right. If only she had more than 24 hours to have her design voted on, it obviously would have printed. I mean, if only she would have got her 15 friends to vote on it (most of which wouldn't cause they are too lazy to sign up for an account), this masterpiece would have obviously smashed the competition!

I take it all back now. I've been proven wrong.

squatterjohn on May 07 '09 at 1:52am

Threadless really should start accepting more of the designs that are submitted

That's not what this is about. They accept hundreds! Too many to vote on. And I'm fine with that, I like that they let things get voted on by the voters, but if the voters don't like it, then dropping the design early. It removes some of the stuff and makes voting less daunting. Just be thankful your designs had a chance to be judged by the community rather than being rejected outright.

againstbound on May 07 '09 at 1:55am

Threadless really should start accepting more of the designs that are submitted

Is it opposite day already?

skeev on May 07 '09 at 11:24am

I thought it was senior skip day....

Jaffacakelover on May 07 '09 at 11:27am

@squatterjohn: Maybe some sort of weekly cap / submission queuing system is in order?

squatterjohn on May 07 '09 at 11:33am

But things are already queued for nine days. they need to let Rachel hire an assistant.

Rachel Ray Gun on May 07 '09 at 11:43am

I appreciate the thought, but hiring an assistant wouldn't lessen the wait time (which currently is about 5 days.) Wait time depends on number of submissions received, not how many people are going through the submissions.

We do decline a lot of submissions, but we want to give everyone a fair shot if they follow the submission guidelines, especially if it's their first time submitting. Nobody's going to learn and improve if their work doesn't get feedback.

brentendo on May 07 '09 at 11:58am

too true

75 days later

phonk on Jul 22 '09 at 6:33am

My design was up for one day and only today I found some time to email around.. Just sent 150 emails and a friend of mine mailed me straight back telling me it's already been kicked off!

I'd say : Just put designs with the least score on the end of the list.. don't kick it off! Some people might actually have got work to do and won't be able to mail around the first second the design is up for voting!

This 24 hour-rule is lame!!! (i.m.h.o.)

squatterjohn on Jul 22 '09 at 6:43am

They don't go on a list, otherwise everything at the front would get voted on and people would give up before reaching the end. Votes are directed at random so eveything gets equal exposure. It really won't help your design to have it at the bottom of a list that only the most dedicated are willing to get to. Just design something better and try again.

praet4 on Jul 22 '09 at 7:24am

I guess the people that voted didn't think its worth the money.... But still all it matters is the looks....almost everyone is against the good design to succeed....why the hell are we spending our effort doing it when many fail?? I guess the ones that continue forever will get a chance... I just hope I would never give up....

randyotter3000 on Jul 22 '09 at 7:26am

Dont take it as a downer if anything use it as motivation to improve your work further and you never know you could surprise yourself :)

42 days later

futurehistory on Sep 02 '09 at 10:42pm

hey, mine ended too in a couple of days with 1.79 on 5 after 207 ppl scoring it...before even my friends could vote for it :(

17 days later

mitchloidolt on Sep 20 '09 at 5:41pm

My first three submissions just ended below 2, which is totally fine because it just makes me want to make more polished designs and think of better presentation. It was a bit disheartening to see that, but I suppose it's pretty necessary.

I mean if you're shooting for like $2k, it should have required at least a little effort, right?

13 days later

bottleHeD on Oct 04 '09 at 1:32am

Crap, I just had my second "finished early".. :'(

Actually, all of my submission so far have been for competitions. I think I'll submit some normal entries now.

bottleHeD on Oct 04 '09 at 1:35am

BTW, is there an official Threadless page explaining this?

spacesick 2 on Oct 04 '09 at 1:36am

mitchloidolt and bottleHeD are both very wise.

brentendo on Oct 04 '09 at 1:40am

bottleHeD, I'm pretty sure its all detailed in the terms and conditions. you should be able to find them somewhere in the submit design page

spacesick 2 on Oct 04 '09 at 1:43am

I never know how the current rule goes because I can't remember the last time they updated it

spacesick 2 on Oct 04 '09 at 1:43am

that made sense in my head

Bramish on Oct 04 '09 at 2:34am

I love that everyone is complaining that their friends didn't get a chance to vote on it. The fact is, a bunch of people who aren't going to automatically give it a $5 did get a chance to vote on it, voted honestly, and your design didn't make the grade. That's life.

SteveOramA on Oct 04 '09 at 2:40am

shazam!

mike bautista on Oct 04 '09 at 2:42am

I like how I see a few people post on here that I never see around the blogs.

spacesick 2 on Oct 04 '09 at 3:18am

I like R&B

keeying on Oct 04 '09 at 10:00am

oh well, at least now i know why mine ended early... thanx to the explanations on this page!

i guess that monkey idea needs to be thrown out the window :(

bottleHeD on Oct 06 '09 at 2:23am

Hey! I was mailing Threadless about some stuff, and I noticed that their contact page actually has an explanation.

http://www.threadless.com/contact

Q) Why was my design taken out of the running?

A) Every design is given at least 24 hours and 100 scores. If, after that time, the design receives a score in the bottom 30 percentile, it will be prematurely removed from the running.

So now you know!

8 days later

GTJ on Oct 14 '09 at 8:26am

Haha. Mine just finished early as well. That's okay, though... whatever.

I always wonder if it's paranoia or just intuition, but I'm curious to see how many people have either tons of accounts or friend circles that go around just trying to knock out the competition by voting 0. Or, people who are black and white, and a design either gets a 5 or a 0!

Regardless, what happens happens. Threadless said no resubmissions, so is it generally a mistake to submit without first submitting for critique?

mismonaut on Oct 14 '09 at 8:41am

Q) Why was my design taken out of the running?

A) Every design is given at least 24 hours and 100 scores. If, after that time, the design receives a score in the bottom 30 percentile, it will be prematurely removed from the running.

The bottom 30th of actual scores (almost a third of the running designs get dropped), or the bottom 30th of possible scores (anything below 1.5)?

I've always known this clause as the "1.5 rule," so I'm guessing the latter, but now I'm curious as to what percentage of submissions actually drop early.

84 days later

artsee_fartsee on Jan 06 '10 at 8:41am

I just wish I would have been warned about the possibility of voting ending early. Then I would probably have made a more concentrated effort to get people to to vote in the first 24 hours. When the pages says 7 days left i was strategising for 7 days worth of voting. I didn't know there was a possibility of getting sniped off in the first day.

I just think that rule should at least be made abundantly clear when you receive the "Up for Scoring" notification. "The next 7 days determine the fate of your design!"

artsee_fartsee on Jan 06 '10 at 8:43am

(oops posted without finishing my last sentence. i was gonna say...)

The email says "The next 7 days determine the fate of your design!" but makes no emphasis on the first 24 hours. Just a little misleading.

Mr. Honest on Jan 06 '10 at 8:55am

I tell you guys from the start

but oh no you dont listen to me

stolenfaith on Jan 07 '10 at 12:09am

"guy who dosent even know the band " yeah they do !!!! lol . My advice is do your own thing and rep. yourself as a artist ....not what you think ppl will like O.0

stolenfaith on Jan 07 '10 at 12:10am

"guy who dosent even know the band " yeah they do !!!! lol . My advice is do your own thing and rep. yourself as a artist ....not what you think ppl will like O.0

7 days later

teeveeboy on Jan 14 '10 at 6:33am

It happened to me too. Mine was up for 24 hours and then removed AFTER I SPENT HOURS PROMOTING the fucking link.

Threadless LIES and says that scoring lasts 7 days. NO WHERE does it say that your work could be taken down early - probably due to other angry designers who've experienced the same problem voting ZERO on other designs.

24 days later

emixer on Feb 07 '10 at 8:54am

What is the other option, then?

MichaelJMM on Feb 07 '10 at 9:54am

I hate the fact that a lot of designs are probably scored by how many people you can tell to give it 5$ and not how well the design is done. I know I'd rather get a low honest score than get a score I told people to give me.

10 days later

Thundermonkey on Feb 18 '10 at 2:49am

I think this should be made clearer. I have no problem with it other than it was a shock to find my design removed the morning after promoting the hell out of it.

GreenRabbit on Feb 18 '10 at 3:37am

OMG! Threadless sucks! What a pathetic excuse for a website. Lets all just leave.

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