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pennyroyale
pennyroyale aka Mike Graschuk is a 22.49 year old boy, has been a member since September 10, 2006, has scored 250 submissions, giving an average score of 3.90, helping 4 designs get printed.
http://www.threadless.com/submission/107297/British_T_Rex/

Why the hate? Why the drama?

Here's a great example of Threadless xenophobia.

Ooh, it's not the typical Threadless type submission. And look, people are supporting it. What a scandal!

Must be fake accounts right? Well that was the start of the drama. But no, no fake accounts, as many of them have proven through posts, etc.

Hundreds of flame posts later... we have this disaster.

What the fuck Threadless? I'd never have thought this to be such a cruel community.

Oh was I surprised.

It's a good submission.

Now it's a wreck.

Ugh, fuck all of you.
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Noodlegirl
Noodlegirl on Jan 29 '07 at 8:17pm
No....fuck you!
jublin
   jublin on Jan 29 '07 at 8:17pm
i don't get it.



p.s. what is "typical threadless submission"?



does not compute!
ofthecoast
ofthecoast on Jan 29 '07 at 8:17pm
Hey you're from edmonton like me!

Too bad about the rest of this, though.
AsStarsGoOut
AsStarsGoOut on Jan 29 '07 at 8:18pm
yea . . .fuck you.
OCandCO
OCandCO on Jan 29 '07 at 8:20pm
I think it is funny that a "secret internet society" is calling threadless xenophobic.
shibby558899
shibby558899 on Jan 29 '07 at 8:20pm
Someone's e-penis is showing.
kidaro
kidaro on Jan 29 '07 at 8:21pm
It just snowballed. It's not really about the design itself, which IMO is fine. Not my kind of thing, but not bad.



Don't get too upset. People just like getting on the band wagon.
canadianbeaver
canadianbeaver on Jan 29 '07 at 8:21pm
Darn Canadians. Only come in, Fuck you and leave.
pennyroyale
pennyroyale on Jan 29 '07 at 8:34pm
Alright, nice to see everyone respond with some real good thoughts there. Oh, wait...



Most of you couldn't be bothered to think before typing it seems. What a shame.



Anyhow, to those that had something to say:



To jublin:



Seems to me that a lot of Threadless submissions have striking similarities to one another. Off center designs, strange colors, guitars, flowers; very indie art type things.



Just what I've noticed anyhow.



To: ofthecoast



Yeah, I am. Small world, no? Well, bound to come across someone sooner or later right?



To OCandCO:



I beg your pardon? We're not the ones that started the drama. It was a Threadless regular that made the accusations of fraudulent accounts. Suddenly, there's all this hate out for LLers. I don't get it. The only difference between this submission and any other is that this one has the support of a community who's been long interested in the whole design.



To kidaro:



Yeah, it really did. Fucking avalanche more like. Honestly, better to just shut up in the first place. I guess supportive comments are rare enough here that they cause a commotion.



To canadianbeaver:



I don't even know what you're trying to say.



To everyone else:



Yeah, fuck you too.



(I only read up to canadianbeaver by the way.)
Montro
   Montro on Jan 29 '07 at 8:37pm
iPear
iPear on Jan 29 '07 at 8:37pm
did you just use the word Xenophobia?
Lucretia Mott
Lucretia Mott on Jan 29 '07 at 8:37pm
Pennyroyale, you are rather rude.
iPear
iPear on Jan 29 '07 at 8:37pm
Xenophobia...I mean honestly?
Montro
   Montro on Jan 29 '07 at 8:37pm
ofthecoast
ofthecoast on Jan 29 '07 at 8:38pm
I just find it humorous that we are being pegged as a cruel community.



If anything, I would submit that both communities, while not exclusively composed of cruel people have members who are being immature and rude. Regardless of who started it or whatever.



iPear
iPear on Jan 29 '07 at 8:39pm
...



Xenophobia, though.
pennyroyale
pennyroyale on Jan 29 '07 at 8:43pm
To Lucretia Mott:



And how am I rude, exactly?



To iPear:



Yes, I did use xenophobia. It means fear of foreigners.



Is that some sort of a problem?



To ofthecoast:



Hm. Well, I suppose I should clarify, not -all- Threadless members are cruel; however, from what's been shown so far, they don't exactly seem like the friendliest bunch of people. So what does one respond to flames with? Well... more flames. It's logical. So when the drama started over the validity of our users accounts, and the hate over the submission grew; what were we supposed to say?



To Montro:



And...?
todiefor
todiefor on Jan 29 '07 at 8:43pm
The whole thing that some club thinks Threadless is a cheaper form of getting their shirt printed rather than spend some extra money at cafepress, disturbs me.



It makes the whole contest unfair.



What if, all of a sudden, one of the designers here gets EVERYONE on their contact list to sign up for threadless, vote on their design, and then everyone just abandons their account and the design they wanted?



Not only that, but the person submitting the design gets the prize money.



What makes me even more upset is the fact that these people, having just signed up, have absolutely no respect for the community that's already been established here at Threadless.com.



They say they're part of a 'tight-knit community'.



Well, so are we.
pennyroyale
pennyroyale on Jan 29 '07 at 8:44pm
Okay, iPear, that's three times. Multisyllabic words too much for you? Stop it.
iPear
iPear on Jan 29 '07 at 8:44pm
xenophobia though? I mean honestly.
little g
   little g on Jan 29 '07 at 8:45pm
I'd love to not see another "british t-rex" blog for a long time.



It would make my day too just see these just go away.
ofthecoast
ofthecoast on Jan 29 '07 at 8:45pm
See, the thing is penny, is that your group of LL people have come here and shown little understanding about how and why this place works the way it does.



Sure yes, threadless is a business, but there is also a community. And if we were able to come to LL, and we started to use it as a means of furthering some threadless project, I can only assume there would be some kind of uprising.



Stevethegreat
Stevethegreat on Jan 29 '07 at 8:46pm
jpiatt
   jpiatt on Jan 29 '07 at 8:47pm
British T-Rex is soooooo 3 days ago. Chinese T-Rex and Friends is all the rage now.
StopPickingOnMe
StopPickingOnMe on Jan 29 '07 at 8:47pm
How 'bout you Shut the fuck up and stop making more hate blogs
iPear
iPear on Jan 29 '07 at 8:47pm
Generally, how it works is, when you come to somewhere new and unfamiliar you try not to you know....change it? Generally, what you guys are doing is making complete asses of yourselves by basically criticizing the community. You know? You're not freaking missionaries.
kayceislost
kayceislost on Jan 29 '07 at 8:48pm
damn steve beat me to it.
blonde8007
blonde8007 on Jan 29 '07 at 8:48pm
Montro
   Montro on Jan 29 '07 at 8:48pm




At least we didn't steal your fish.
speedyjvw
   speedyjvw on Jan 29 '07 at 8:49pm




cant we ll just be friends
pennyroyale
pennyroyale on Jan 29 '07 at 8:49pm
To todiefor:



Actually, it's not about the money. We figured it was an idea that was good enough to be shared with anyone and everyone. So Threadless seemed like an ideal outlet.



And for Threadless, this is a big introduction of new members. Or, another purchase from old members. How is that a bad thing? I think many who signed up will continue to use their accounts.



The Threadless community has no respect for the influx of new members, nor for the submission that they followed.



People aren't voting as a favor. They're voting if they like it. Lots of members support the project, so here they are giving that support.



However, the amount of members voting from LL, isn't a match for the Threadless community's numbers. And it's a final mod decision anyway isn't it? What's the big deal.



We're just a group of people who thought we had a good idea to share with others. Where's the crime?
polemicchem
polemicchem on Jan 29 '07 at 8:49pm
WWJSD in this situation?
Lucretia Mott
Lucretia Mott on Jan 29 '07 at 8:50pm
"I have lost all respect at the Threadless community for being elitist douches."



"Go eat a cock Laborpsus....Are you a fucking LLer? No. So shut up...You are such a pretentious know-it-all fuck....Get the fuck out of my internets. Good day.



"Eat a cock fagbot."



"IBFAG.



Fag.



IAFAG."



[I'm not even entirely sure what that means.]



" pennyroyale on Jan 29 '07

Who the fuck are you?



What does it matter?"



"Nice job pointing out a stereotype Lucretia.



And I'm guessing because you are an avid Threadless user, you must eat organic vegetables, listen to indie music, hate popular culture, and take strange MySpacey photos right?"













In case you missed it, I'll define "rude" for you:

" ill-mannered: socially incorrect in behavior; "resentment flared at such an unmannered intrusion"

ill-bred: (of persons) lacking in refinement or grace

uncivil: lacking civility or good manners;"

[Princeton.edu]





Your overall tone is overly hostile and personally insulting. Plus you're a bigot.
Kokochiyoi
Kokochiyoi on Jan 29 '07 at 8:51pm
oh well..you people are assholes. People are gonna be like that wherever you go. But I think that threadless is a lot nicer than other online forums
Montro
   Montro on Jan 29 '07 at 8:51pm




Stevethegreat
Stevethegreat on Jan 29 '07 at 8:51pm




VS



iPear
iPear on Jan 29 '07 at 8:51pm
your obscure inside jokes are wierd, and lame.
Hakaidur
Hakaidur on Jan 29 '07 at 8:51pm
Threadless is not your personal printing service. You and your little friends want a shirt printed, print it yourself.
speedyjvw
   speedyjvw on Jan 29 '07 at 8:52pm
dude steve

that doesnt work any more

he cut the hair
Kokochiyoi
Kokochiyoi on Jan 29 '07 at 8:52pm
I meant,m "yeah, people are assholes" hehe...don't wanna offend anybody..
Stevethegreat
Stevethegreat on Jan 29 '07 at 8:52pm
gaahhhahaha
ofthecoast
ofthecoast on Jan 29 '07 at 8:52pm
I think Nash would win in a creepy fight, steve.
StopPickingOnMe
StopPickingOnMe on Jan 29 '07 at 8:52pm
You do NOT deserve a coconut!
Stevethegreat
Stevethegreat on Jan 29 '07 at 8:53pm
BUT IT STILL WORKS, JOE
Skipper6745
   Skipper6745 on Jan 29 '07 at 8:53pm
This is the best thing that's happened to Threadless since Goatse.
Stevethegreat
Stevethegreat on Jan 29 '07 at 8:53pm
I love steve nash
sonmi
   sonmi on Jan 29 '07 at 8:54pm
i still don't understand why the "threadless only has artsy/pretentious/indie art" argument started coming up. i mean, if you really felt that, why even bother submitting? wouldn't you have not expected it to be printed here at all, then?



i mean, i still think this whole argument is ridiculous, and don't understand how or why it got so out of hand. but it kind of irritated me that defending the t-rex design required demeaning, in your own way, threadless' products.
shibby558899
shibby558899 on Jan 29 '07 at 8:55pm
JOE GOT SHOT DOWN BY STEVE!!!!!



OH SCHNAPPS!!
ofthecoast
ofthecoast on Jan 29 '07 at 8:55pm
I love steve nash AND sonmi.



She's so rational.
Lucretia Mott
Lucretia Mott on Jan 29 '07 at 8:55pm
Also, you missed my rebuttal to your stereotype confusion. This is the whole post:



"Agras, thanks for not being an asshole. I've had my chastity questioned because I personally am not hugely fond of the design, and I can't see why there is such a huge drama over it, and also been called a puritanical bitch. I'm not entirely sure why. That's why I was curious as to what corner of the internet that type of flagrant misogyny is okay.



Royale, you need to calm down. I will tell you a parable. Have you ever heard of MIT? Having spent the greater part of my life there, especially as of late, I have to say that these stereotypes that you seem to be claiming I propogate are fairly accurate.





And actually, yes I eat organic vegetables, am vegetarian, listen to indie music and am interested in photography. I really enjoy popular culture, but that's only because I'm fairly far removed from it, and it fascinates me on an anthropological level. Similar to how your community interests me.



There's no need to be rude."

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