Profile for Sgt.Dobad - threadless ripoffs?

Sgt.Dobad aka chris is a 25 year old boy, has been a member since September 8, 2006, has scored 2,689 submissions, giving an average score of 2.47, helping 131 designs get printed.

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Oct 19 '09 by Sgt.Dobad
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threadless ripoffs?

I saw this in the shop new look in the uk at the weekend, seems familiar:

bramish's 'bone idol':

then when i looked at their website i saw this

Which whilst although a different execution is the same idea as laserbread's 'The Northern Black-capped Gumchewer'

this is not cool

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dschwen on Oct 19 '09 at 7:40am

Whoah, very not cool. Boooooo!

bengineer on Oct 19 '09 at 7:41am

boooo!!!

fatheed on Oct 19 '09 at 7:42am

Some people are fucking shameless. Honestly.

digsy on Oct 19 '09 at 7:43am

New Look are a major high street retailer in the UK, I'm very surprised they think they can get away with this.

it's not like they have a small market amongst whom no one has ever heard of threadles!

Bramish on Oct 19 '09 at 7:43am

New Look! How dare they?! I know a buyer for them. I'll have a word!

eskimokiss on Oct 19 '09 at 7:44am

Down here in Aus, the most ripped off tee making the rounds lately is Funkadelic. I've seen that bad boy on about 5 different shirt colours and as a tee, hoody, and tank top.

digsy on Oct 19 '09 at 7:44am

Threadless needs to get in there and kick some ass.

jsut out of curiosity - is there a mail address for reporting rip-offs?

i cam across one the other day which had already had a blog about it ages ago, yet the company were still selling it. Makes me wonder if the threadless powers that be see all these blogs pointing these things out?

fatheed on Oct 19 '09 at 7:45am

It won't be New Look as a company that have ripped this off, but an in-house designer or freelancer that has no imagination and no shame (and thinks they can get away with it).

Lonkiponk on Oct 19 '09 at 7:47am

so not cool.

boooo

digsy on Oct 19 '09 at 7:48am

well yeah, i suppose that's what i meant - i'm sure not everyone in NL is aware this is a ripoff, i'm more surprised that whoever works for them and churned it out thinks they'll get away with it. It does reflect badly on the company as a whole though... not that they were ever massively high in my esteem to start with, but still

eskimokiss on Oct 19 '09 at 7:50am

here's another rip i came across a minute ago.

while the design hasn't been printed on a tee, the bastard recreated the image down to the exact positioning of the very similar mugs and has used it to promote 12(!!!) cafe's around Prague!!

fatheed on Oct 19 '09 at 7:51am

Threadless should totally have a contact address or a report page for ripoffs like they do for Threadspotting.

ripoff@skinnycorp.com

And a hall of shame gallery.

bcrider on Oct 19 '09 at 7:53am

Boo! Bram's skull tee is so much better than that crap. :(

eskimokiss on Oct 19 '09 at 7:54am

I think they do. I can't recall what it is, but I know you're to address it to the other festa in the subject line.

I emailed him about some rip offs down here by a very well known, and big clothing company, and haven't received any response. He must have a lot to deal with.

digsy on Oct 19 '09 at 7:57am

that coffee design is outrageous!

someone should just email the company he "designed" that for direct

soloyo on Oct 19 '09 at 7:57am

report them

charity.ryan on Oct 19 '09 at 8:10am

That coffee tee is worth a lawsuit--Threadless owns the rights...that's just terrible. :(

Tonteau on Oct 19 '09 at 8:24am

fatheed on Oct 19 '09 at 7:45am

It won't be New Look as a company that have ripped this off, but an in-house designer or freelancer that has no imagination and no shame (and thinks they can get away with it).

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This.

digsy on Oct 19 '09 at 8:25am

true, but that doesn't mean NL shouldn't be held responsible and the product removed from their shelves.

anyone who they employ represents them as a brand, if the employee cocks up then the company have cocked up

charity.ryan on Oct 19 '09 at 8:28am

digsy is right

brentendo on Oct 19 '09 at 8:31am

charity.ryan on Oct 19 '09 at 8:10am

That coffee tee is worth a lawsuit--Threadless owns the rights...that's just terrible. :(

threadless don't own the rights to that one, because its not actually on a tee. but Marco (Ivejustquitsmoking) certainly does because its his design! someone should inform him

brentendo on Oct 19 '09 at 8:32am

also, that 'bubblegum birds tee' is unbelievably bad

celandinestern on Oct 19 '09 at 8:42am

hahahahah I just left the guy an angry message over at deviant art only to see that of course about 5 other threadlessers had beat me to it :D

squatterjohn on Oct 19 '09 at 8:44am

I almost signed up for DA specifically to do that.

charity.ryan on Oct 19 '09 at 8:46am

Brendan, I'm confused...what do you mean "it's not actually on a tee?"

EricDiaz on Oct 19 '09 at 8:46am

oh man...

brentendo on Oct 19 '09 at 8:46am

I did sign up to DA specifically for that haha

celandinestern on Oct 19 '09 at 8:48am

Brendan, I'm confused...what do you mean "it's not actually on a tee?"

threadless owns rights only for t-shirts and prints. You as the designer still own the rights for any other use - on mugs, stickers, underwear, whatever else you can think of. I think that's what he meant.

brentendo on Oct 19 '09 at 8:49am

oh and charity.ryan I just meant that threadless only own the rights to put the designs on tshirts, the artists still keep the rights to the designs which is cool. but yeah it means that in the case of the owl design, the guy isnt technically stealing from threadless hes stealing from the designer Marco lol

brentendo on Oct 19 '09 at 8:50am

haha yeah that :) though I still think marco should get in touch with the designer and sue his ass

trindli on Oct 19 '09 at 8:50am

wow, the owl one is pretty bad, it's a one-to one copy..

i reported a rip off of one of leons shirts once, i never got an answer but the next time i passed the store it was gone..

charity.ryan on Oct 19 '09 at 8:53am

Ohhhh, I thought they bought all printing rights to the design--meaning that even the artist gives up the rights.

celandinestern on Oct 19 '09 at 8:53am

I hate it that people think design is not property. People are so casual in downright theft. for each one of these we find, there must be hundreds that are never discovered.

charity.ryan on Oct 19 '09 at 9:00am

I pulled this from the TL Legal Terms:

If your Design is selected for use by Threadless.com, you acknowledge that you assign to skinnyCorp LLC and its subsidiaries and affiliates (hereinafter collectively "Threadless.com") the entire right, title, and interest in and to the copyright in your Design including the right to sue for past infringement and the right to further sublicense the Design, for its sole and exclusive use on and in connection with the Items. You also acknowledge that you waive all "moral" rights that you may have in and to your Design.

If your Design is selected, you may not use the Design (or derivatives of the Design) or allow others to use the Design (or derivatives of the Design) on any Items, as described above.

This sounds pretty serious to me, like Marco can't even use the design anymore.

eskimokiss on Oct 19 '09 at 9:08am

They must have changed the fine print, because i'm pretty sure it's always been understood that threadless only hold the rights to print the design on clothing (and also as a print) while the designer can print it on anything else.

brentendo on Oct 19 '09 at 9:12am

you may not use the Design (or derivatives of the Design) or allow others to use the Design (or derivatives of the Design) on any Items, as described above.

I think theres a section just above that details what items threadless is buying the rights for.

brentendo on Oct 19 '09 at 9:14am

By selecting "I Agree" below and in consideration of Threadless.com evaluating your Design (hereinafter the "Design") for its possible use on clothing and wall graphics (the "Items"), you agree to the following terms and conditions ("Design Submission Terms and Conditions"):

yeah its right at the top, they just buy the rights to use it on a tshirt or for Blik wall graphics :)

B 7 on Oct 19 '09 at 9:15am

'fatheed on Oct 19 '09 at 7:45am

It won't be New Look as a company that have ripped this off, but an in-house designer or freelancer that has no imagination and no shame (and thinks they can get away with it).'

if I had a job as as sweet as being an in-house designer for a clothing co. the LEAST i would do is come up with my own ideas.

I actually see a lot of designs in places like new-look or topman, which are, even if not straight rip-offs, very derivative of threadless designs

charity.ryan on Oct 19 '09 at 9:21am

Ow, my head...:) Well, all I know is someone owns the rights and someone else needs to be sued.

Bramish on Oct 19 '09 at 9:33am

It's pretty dumb that a designer for one big t-shirt seller would rip off another company. You'd think the in-house designer for high street t-shirts would at least realise that he/she is not the only person in the design industry in England to be familiar with Threadless.

I think with Bone Idol it might be a tough call since it's just a big skull - despite its obvious similarities, I'm not the only person to have put a skull on a shirt. I'd be prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt if they hadn't so blatantly ripped off that bubblegum bird from Threadless as well.

brentendo on Oct 19 '09 at 9:38am

also on the subject of ripoffs, I was out at a club the other night wearing The Morning After ( the one with the clown puking a rainbow into a toilet for those who don't know), and as I was walking through the club I bumped into some guy wearing an exact copy of it just on navy with a logo underneath it. He looked at me like wtfff, and I ended up chatting to him about how I had the original and he was wearing a cheap ripoff, he was so gutted haha

B 7 on Oct 19 '09 at 9:43am

hahaha you told him Bren. I bet he went home and reevaluated his stupid life !!

tooharsh?

squatterjohn on Oct 19 '09 at 9:50am

I jus got 404'd going to the Night Owl rip-off, he must've deleted it. Go team!

digsy on Oct 19 '09 at 9:56am

glad he's removed it from there, probably won't stop him trying to use it for the company he "designed" it for though

squatterjohn on Oct 19 '09 at 10:01am

Yeah, they won't be happy when they find out. Anyone speak Czech?

digsy on Oct 19 '09 at 10:04am

not me sadly, but i'd be very surprised if there was no one on here who spoke it, we just have to find them!