Profile for fatheed - Concept, or aesthetic.

fatheed aka Aled is a 27.44 year old boy, has been a member since June 18, 2006, has scored 4107 submissions, giving an average score of 2.03.

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Jun 29 '09 by fatheed

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Concept, or aesthetic.

FACT: Threadless use to be 70% concept and 30% aesthetic.

A quick calculation tell me it's now 30% concept and 70% aesthetic.

I'd say probably 5 out of the 6 tees this week are defined by their aesthetic, rather than being idea driven. Is this fair or is it the 2 beers I had at lunch?

Discuss.

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tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 11:51am

*to, sry.

ginetteginette on Jul 01 '09 at 11:51am

you can't always relate to concept designs.

ginetteginette on Jul 01 '09 at 11:52am

oops, new page rewrite

concept designs are not inherently timeless. don't pretend they are so.

Tonteau on Jul 01 '09 at 11:53am

We need to stop all this thinking. It's dangereaux.

ginetteginette on Jul 01 '09 at 11:53am

i think absolute statements should just be blocked form this blog.

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 11:53am

tushe, but you don't always like aesthetic ones either.

ginetteginette on Jul 01 '09 at 11:54am

sure, but what's the point of arguing about that. i think we all know trends change. that's the whole point of this blog.

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 11:55am

Actually, what was the point of this blog?

ginetteginette on Jul 01 '09 at 11:56am

this blog is a concept!

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 11:56am

neither side is right here, that's why both types of design exist.

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 11:58am

IMPO, I think that designing aesthetically is easier than coming up with a great concept.

ISABOA on Jul 01 '09 at 11:58am

no way do I agree that aesthetic looks dated at some point.

I think that rule applies to concept based work more than aesthetic work.

like my "where's the beef" shirt - no one gets it anymore

and hogboy, I was not speaking of your comment specifically - I was commenting on a general hum that has been resonating

squatterjohn on Jul 01 '09 at 11:58am

I think it was entirely clear what Aled mean and we didn't need 3 pages of pointless semantic discussion. But at any rate I would agree and I've been thinking this for a while.

ISABOA on Jul 01 '09 at 11:59am

well - aesthetic does get dated... but not to a greater or quicker degree than concept

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 11:59am

ISA, I meant "original concept" not parodied until it means nothing.

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 12:00pm

Like "got milk".

andyg on Jul 01 '09 at 12:00pm

Deconstructing t-shirt designs is a sad waste of time.

ISABOA on Jul 01 '09 at 12:01pm

I think threadless is like a barometer of the cutting edge of tshirt design.

when concept was king - it ruled here at threadless

when illustrative work began to surge, it did so right here.

Other companies like woot and DBH - they are not fluid like this. They are in their little niches and hold on for dear life. Here we see the tides of taste lapping against the shores of talent. quite a dynamic environment

ginetteginette on Jul 01 '09 at 12:01pm

nothing's a waste of time if you're enjoying taking part

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 12:02pm

it's only a waste of time if no one learns anything new.

ginetteginette on Jul 01 '09 at 12:02pm

i like joe's words.

olie! on Jul 01 '09 at 12:08pm

this blog got NUTZZZ™

ISABOA on Jul 01 '09 at 12:10pm

I think that even though those other places have their niches. They are wanting to expand outside of the comfort zone.

Like woot wants to make some illustrated all over shirts that are not funny - who knew?

fatheed on Jul 01 '09 at 12:14pm

andyg on Jul 01 '09 at 12:00pm
Deconstructing t-shirt designs is a sad waste of time.

Not if you enjoy design!

fatheed on Jul 01 '09 at 12:14pm

PS: CLASSIC ANDYG!

band-it on Jul 01 '09 at 12:18pm

happy canada day!

ginetteginette on Jul 01 '09 at 12:20pm

i forgot it was!

againstbound on Jul 01 '09 at 1:13pm

squatterjohn on Jul 01 '09 at 11:58am
I think it was entirely clear what Aled mean and we didn't need 3 pages of pointless semantic discussion. But at any rate I would agree and I've been thinking this for a while.

Me too, people seem to be overthinking stuff just because.

Also, I don't know why some people try to make it black or white when Aled specifically gave the 70/30% example; it's not about concept disappearing, it's about it diluting or however you want to call it.

Also, I think I gave good examples back in page 3 yet everyone choosed to ignore me, you're all assholes.

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 1:13pm

Going back to the original question: yes I think that fatheed is making an accurate observation. Judging from the last few prints, I would say the trend is leaning towards aesthetic-driven. And if we don't like them, we don't have to buy them.

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 1:15pm

I thought they were great examples, fatheed had some great ones too.

againstbound on Jul 01 '09 at 1:16pm

Also, my problem with watercolours (or any other technique, or CONCEPT!), is that it has turned from a technique into a gimmick to get high scores.

Or at least that's how I see it, I'm sure some will agree and some will disagree.

Also:
ISABOA on Jul 01 '09 at 12:10pm
Like woot wants to make some illustrated all over shirts that are not funny - who knew?

I think that means Isaboa Woot print.

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 1:23pm

Like Star Wars themed shirts.

againstbound on Jul 01 '09 at 1:25pm

Star Wars can suck my sweaty balls!

Also, I forgot to add that not ALL watercolour designs are gimmicky, just most of them.

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 1:37pm

I have a submission pending right now that has a strong concept but the design is very minimal, it will be interesting to see how it does.

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 1:37pm

Judging on were the trends are going that is.

ISABOA on Jul 01 '09 at 4:16pm

don't diss the WARS

and everytime I sketch a concept based idea my wife ridicules me cause it is such a bad concept. I think it is because i am old and not funny and stuff

stubby43 on Jul 01 '09 at 4:22pm

By concept do we mean pun tee shirts?

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 4:24pm

Mine does the same thing.
And another thing she does is point out when I've done something stupid in a design.

ginetteginette on Jul 01 '09 at 4:26pm

fucking women, eh?

fatheed on Jul 01 '09 at 4:26pm

Read the whole blog, stubby

fatheed on Jul 01 '09 at 4:27pm

It's rivetting!

tymn on Jul 01 '09 at 4:32pm

It's just funny because she isn't a designer.
Sometimes it takes an outside observer to see something obvious that we have overlooked.

ISABOA on Jul 02 '09 at 12:17pm

I think i am concepting an aesthetic as we speak

tesco on Jul 02 '09 at 1:07pm

want

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