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Jemae
Jemae aka Noor is a boy, has been a member since June 15, 2006, has scored 6,030 submissions, giving an average score of 4.53, helping 527 designs get printed.
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I received this email this morning (from a kind person)


"Dear Sir,

Maybe i just get to the point because my english is awful . Okay, first of all I'm from Indonesia and also a graphic designer, and i've been admire your work on threadless (eventhough, i never bought any one of your design because they can't deliver it to Indonesia ;p)

My question is: Is it true that you have been giving permission to use your design to designer in Indonesia? Because one of T-shirt designer in Indonesia has claimed that they already have permission to use your design, and share the profit of selling those shirt with you.

Is it true? Or this is just another plagiator who take advantage of someone else hard work?

Okay, i'm waiting for your reply (for the sake of creativity!).

Btw, this is url where they sold your design.

http://kaskus.us/showthread.php?t=483335

thanks for your time reading this"


It's not only me, but also Glenn's, John's and Simon's. They claimed that they were given permission to sell our designs in Indonesia and the truth is I have never been approached by this people!

Any suggestion on how to proceed with this. I have to be honest, as a new designer, I don't actually know how to handle the situation.

Thanks guys! =(
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iDanSimpson
iDanSimpson on May 05 '07 at 11:12pm
This is awful. I counted at least 6 of those designs are from Threadless submissions or prints.



I wish you the best of luck here. I hope everything ends up ok!
to you. love sarah.
to you. love sarah. on May 05 '07 at 11:13pm
i can't read it, but i think honestly these people can't be making much money at all. their store is in a forum? thats going to make them hard to track to make them stop...
to you. love sarah.
to you. love sarah. on May 05 '07 at 11:14pm
oh yeah, and good luck!! you'll probably need lots of it, but i'm hoping for an easy outcome for you
StopPickingOnMe
StopPickingOnMe on May 05 '07 at 11:15pm
Go to indonesia and stab them with anger.
iDanSimpson
iDanSimpson on May 05 '07 at 11:16pm
Damn... i didn't scroll all the way down. Now I count at least 9
to you. love sarah.
to you. love sarah. on May 05 '07 at 11:17pm
they have yahoo messenger



green_mile_jualcd



email address as well
Polyester Jones
Polyester Jones on May 05 '07 at 11:21pm
find someone who speaks indonesian, i guess.
stubbythumbs
stubbythumbs on May 05 '07 at 11:23pm
ask them to take it down, talk to threadless... i dunno what else you can do if they're in indonesia
Jemae
   Jemae on May 05 '07 at 11:24pm
thanks guys... I don't know what to do honestly.. They stole this from me.. =(



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artdrops
   artdrops on May 05 '07 at 11:25pm
Send them a very nasty letter telling them to cease their illegal operations of selling copywritten images. (not that that would stop them, but atleast they will know you are aware)





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081-334-88-4444

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Email : ardi@indobiofuel.com

Jemae
   Jemae on May 05 '07 at 11:34pm
Thanks Guys!



Latest news... Got email from Glenn saying that he will contact them and will also speak to Threadless the same time..



Hope this will make things comes out easy... Thanks a lot, Glenn.
wullagaru
   wullagaru on May 05 '07 at 11:39pm
yeah i hope this gets settled thats messed up
radiomode
   radiomode on May 05 '07 at 11:42pm
I dont think they manage to get a lot from the forum. They only have like 6-10 people buying for each designs. According to the seller, he was authorized by the offical designer (which he claimed was located somewhere in Kuala Lumpur).
Jemae
   Jemae on May 05 '07 at 11:47pm
Where did you get this information, radiomode?
Flying Mouse
   Flying Mouse on May 05 '07 at 11:53pm
Jemae, why not try to contact Threadless staff for help. Becuase they are stolen the printed shirt. I think Threadless will take action for this.
Jemae
   Jemae on May 05 '07 at 11:55pm
Glenn will be doing it, thanks Flying Mouse..
maddingo
maddingo on May 05 '07 at 11:58pm
dude it sucks... but IP/copyright gets walked all over in countries like that...



just ask microsoft .... probably 1 in 100 windows installs is legit in some of those countries...



well... and since the



~~~

Contemporary issues



As of 2006, an estimated 17.8% of the population live below the poverty line and 49.0% of the population live on less than US$2 per day

~~~



half the population lives on $2 or less apparently the reasons why they may rip people off seem obvious?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia



i got sorta lost trying to figure out what the hell they were talking about but i think they are selling the ripoff shirts for about $6~ U.S.



obviously not exactly apples to apples but here is what the bsa has to say on Indonesia computer software piracy (87% piracy rate according to the BSA)



http://www.bsa.org/indonesia/press/newsreleases/2006-Global-Piracy-Study.cfm









good luck and all....and i supposed I'd make an effort at least but I wouldn't be tooo shocked if they just laugh you off and carry on..
Flying Mouse
   Flying Mouse on May 05 '07 at 11:58pm
Oh, I miss out the comment above. Okay man, good luck!
Jemae
   Jemae on May 06 '07 at 12:05am
Thanks for the info maddingo..
The Crackers
The Crackers on May 06 '07 at 12:14am
those lame faces



especially since those are some of the really really good designs on threadless



they are lame



hope everything works out!
tobasco
tobasco on May 06 '07 at 12:50am
Hey man, this is rough, and they have no laws over there so it's all a bit glum from you're side, if we do a fund raiser maybe we could hire some ninja assassins to go over there and kick their butts!



In all seriousness though hopefully threadless can do something, if not maybe get people to start sending them E-mails and swamp them with hate.
Jemae
   Jemae on May 06 '07 at 1:05am
Ha ha, thank you Tobasco.. Anyone from Japan can send the ninjas there? Kojima maybe... =)
Flying Mouse
   Flying Mouse on May 06 '07 at 1:08am
Try check with my Octo-Ninja, lol....
Jemae
   Jemae on May 06 '07 at 1:14am
Cool dude, can you send him for me??... that will be a real kick-ass!!!
Jemae
   Jemae on May 06 '07 at 6:45am
Oh, now I feel the difficulty! =(
MeLa de Gypsie
MeLa de Gypsie on May 06 '07 at 6:56am
I think Kooky is from Indonesia too... you might want to ask him...
Jemae
   Jemae on May 06 '07 at 7:00am
Yap, I just mail him, Yoshi Andrian and DrawingEvils...they all from Indonesia! Thanks MdG! =)
flourpower
flourpower on May 06 '07 at 9:45am
hehe, plagiator



which designer was it that posted a blog of photos of a store stuffed with threadless ripoffs somewhere like Indonesia or Thailand or Taiwan? I'm sure it's not the same store, tho.
Jemae
   Jemae on May 06 '07 at 12:59pm
yeah, it happen everywhere... =(
therecouldbenothingafterThis
therecouldbenothingafterThis on May 06 '07 at 1:03pm
lol. they get away with it so easily. but hey.. it's not authentic. im sorry bout your design. thats a shame. : (
Jemae
   Jemae on May 06 '07 at 5:40pm
Thanks therecouldbenothingafterThis! =)
Trishk
Trishk on May 06 '07 at 5:51pm
Sorry about you design.

But at least the pirated shirts are sponsered by durex. Your design will be safe.
Jemae
   Jemae on May 06 '07 at 5:53pm
Durex! Hahaha! thanks for this info, Trishk! =)
Tonteau
   Tonteau on May 06 '07 at 5:54pm
Let threadless know, they should sort the business end out.



Good luck.
staffell
   staffell on May 06 '07 at 5:56pm
I don't think there's anything you can do about it I'm afraid
Jemae
   Jemae on May 06 '07 at 6:05pm
Thanks mate! I know this is tough! too bad! =(
fatheed
   fatheed on May 06 '07 at 6:06pm
I imagine that they are just really bad copies that have been taken from the product page. Imitation is the sincerest, and most annoying form of flattery.
valorandvellum
   valorandvellum on May 06 '07 at 6:11pm
WHOA... that sucks. Looks like they're ALL threadless designs, some of which haven't even been printed yet.



I gave cbuchholz a heads up about this too 'cause it looks like one of his is on there. Maybe if you all gang up and do something together, the design thieves will do something about it. Good luck with that...
fatheed
   fatheed on May 06 '07 at 6:12pm
It sucks, but there really is not much you can do about it. At the end of the day - your artwork is being produced elsewhere in the world. Despite the fact you don't get credited like you do on Threadless - it's kinda cool in a round-a-bout way. You just have to accept its part of the art industry and be smug that someone has to use your work because they're completely void of creativity and talent themselves.
Trishk
Trishk on May 06 '07 at 6:15pm
BTW Jemae, I 5$ your fish design for the living with the living contest. :)
Jemae
   Jemae on May 06 '07 at 6:19pm
Thanks Guys for all your support & advice!



chelly
chelly on May 06 '07 at 6:40pm
that was really nice of that person to contact you w/ that link!
chelly
chelly on May 06 '07 at 6:42pm
is it sad that i really want that RG shirt?
Jemae
   Jemae on May 06 '07 at 8:37pm
Yeah, I really, really appreciated what he/she did. Actually not only for me BUT I think...If I'm not not wrong, actually this info for the entire Threadless family! Am I right?

Thanks again to him/her. Coz some of the resson I think better not give his/her details here.



THANKS! =)
kooky love
   kooky love on May 06 '07 at 9:12pm
I'm Indonesian designer.
kooky love
   kooky love on May 06 '07 at 9:21pm
I'm sad and rough to hear about this. I will send email for the seller to close his shopping online.

kooky love
   kooky love on May 06 '07 at 9:26pm
maddingo on May 05 '07 at 11:58pm

dude it sucks... but IP/copyright gets walked all over in countries like that...



just ask microsoft .... probably 1 in 100 windows installs is legit

in some of those countries...



well... and since the



~~~

Contemporary issues



As of 2006, an estimated 17.8% of the population live below the

poverty line and 49.0% of the population live on less than US$2 per

day

~~~



half the population lives on $2 or less apparently the reasons why

they may rip people off seem obvious?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia



i got sorta lost trying to figure out what the hell they were

talking about but i think they are selling the ripoff shirts for

about $6~ U.S.



obviously not exactly apples to apples but here is what the bsa has

to say on Indonesia computer software piracy (87% piracy rate

according to the BSA)



http://www.bsa.org/indonesia/press/newsreleases/2006-Global-Piracy-Study.cfm

kooky love
   kooky love on May 06 '07 at 9:26pm
It's right!
kooky love
   kooky love on May 06 '07 at 9:42pm
Jordan Marzuki aka drawing evil wrote:



Hi again! I just contacted threadless about that site.

Also, I've been posting some messsage to the sellers. He seems got alot excuse, he is the biggest douche ever! theres's alot of people complaining too, but HE ALWAAYS have excuse, he said that he don't even know, all he do was selling. He bought the design from designers that lying about their originality... but he stills sells copycat shirt...



I hope threadless do the justice..



Jorden

Jemae
   Jemae on May 06 '07 at 10:13pm
Thanks Kooky, thanks for all your effort! I really appreciate it! And to other Threadless designers from Indonesia, thanks for helping.



To all Threadless members, FYI... kookylove and drawingevil are doing their best to help on this and they have been in contact with the printer & personally talk to them about this matter.



Thanks gain guys!



=)

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