they mean i won't get printed, but thats about it.

the majority wants shit, so they get it.

Hey phone, I liked your "Oh Schnapps."

agreed





puns can be well done and funny



but I prefer designy-er stuff

Then they should all order shirts from T-shirt hell. Screw 'em.

And what's with the sudden fascination with panda bears? Does anyone else understand this?

.......*cough*

*cough*......http://www.threadless.com/submission/75252/Bronson,_MI

Hey, jpiatt, I'm not saying I hate your design. In fact, I think it's kinda cute. But mikemills' "Pipe Dream" was gorgeous. It just seems like the general trend is falling way, way away from the graphically interesting.

i think the majority of the voters are non-bloggers and are virtually from a younger age group...



i have more to say but i cant think of it right now...



and i love that facial hair design btw

Oh, the Bronson thing was because of a lost bet to my manpanion. Besides, it got a bad score.



( I was kinda glad it did, too. It was something I designed a few years ago.)

well it amused me =P

I wish "The Virgin" was a design all by itself... you know, much bigger and with more detail. Have you ever spent hours perusing the world facial hair competition website? My GOD what fantastic sculpture!

pipe dream was one of my favorites, that score was an utter, utter farce

ive also noticed that most of the interesting graphically designed subs would just look better as a print than on a shirt...

BTW-- my little tirade had more to do with the fact that every design I genuinely really, really like it shat on. And can anyone explain the hate for text thing?

Thank you, suspiria! I was hoping I wasn't the only one who really liked that sub!

i just noticed you did welcoming committee, i five and buyed that shit good job

Mine had text and did quite well :)

So, I can't explain it at all!

Pipe dream isn't that great a design actually. I think the execution has to match the quality of the idea, and I think pipe dream falls a tad short. There could've been so much more done with that. I'm finding that with my own designs, that a great illustration doesn't always warrant being printed on a shirt.

Maybe it's because the text was REALLY, REALLY SMALL. Don't know.



And thanks again, suspiria. That's the sort of stuff I really like designing... not that Bronson crap. Not that I hate Bronson. I just wish I hadn't lost that damned bet.

yeah because you had words like 'virgin' and 'pervert' on there jeremy! sick fucks like me love that shit!



i dont know, i generally agree with everything thats written up there on this blog, its depressing but you just have to give the audience what they want!

great topic funkstart.



i agree, although, the example above isn't the best. i like jpiatt's sub, but my buddy mikemills did do a fantastic job on pipe dream. pipe dream may have been too sophisticated for this ever younger crowd. i mean, a good number here aren't old enough to "legally" drive a car, vote, or drink alcohol ...much less smoke.



i'm having a harder time designing to this mixed crowd. a one size fits all kind of sub. a sub that appeals to 12 year olds up to mid 40's. men/women, boy/girls, gay/straight.

slaterock... not sure I agree. I thought the execution was fine. I think the reason for the poor score might have had more to do with the fact that the whole thrust of the design was unclear.

I just used jpiatt's sub as a recent example where an obvious pun or joke gets the vote. It was well executed, though, and I didn't mean to make it seem like I thought it was really sucky and deserved a really LOW score. I meant to point out that I thought both were well-executed, but the joke got the score. Know what I mean?



Yeah, the "one size fits all"... unfortunately, I feel something is lost in the process. Did you see some of the comments on mikemills' latest sub? Check this one out:



"spacerobotfive, at 3:10pm on May 30, 2006



It drives me nuts when people put up ambiguous images with vague titles and don't bother to provide any word of explanation. Making me feel stupid does not encourage me to vote for you."



That makes me never want to submit again.

pipe dreams execution was good! that illustration would look superb on a shirt!

funk.....you keep saying my shirt is a "Pun"

where are you getting that?

If you're getting it from the title, that's silly, because the title was an afterthought. You can ask any blogger that saw it. I didn't come up with a name till it was completed.

Also, funk....text doesn't work on most shirts because it's not needed. Honestly.

Text should only be used to enhance a design. A lot of the time it doesn't work because it's not needed and make the design less appealing.

I'm still not happy you chose my design to use as an example. Because I feel my design is clever enough to work on a site like threadless. And to even mention T-Shirt hell in regaurds to this type of design pretty much just doesn't work.

Thanks though....I really appreciate this blog. Makes me feel all warm inside.

""spacerobotfive, at 3:10pm on May 30, 2006



It drives me nuts when people put up ambiguous images with vague titles and don't bother to provide any word of explanation. Making me feel stupid does not encourage me to vote for you."



That makes me never want to submit again. "



^ Agree it's bull shit and i feel the same way sometimes.

And no offense to jpiatt, but I think a design like pipe dream would fit a shirt better. The graphic and text for facial hair club is good, but small... and that creates a problem for a t-shirt design. Not a terrible, horrible, irreparable problem that would make this a bad t-shirt, but might make it less striking than a larger graphic.

no offense funk, but....obviously you are in the minority here.

"Thanks though....I really appreciate this blog. Makes me feel all warm inside."



hahahahahahah...jpiatt!

the minority chooses some pretty DAMN good shirts

Oh, jpiatt, I didn't say your design was a pun. I was referring to the many, many pun subs that I see every day. Yours was a joke. (And I don't mean "Man, that sub was a JOKE," as in, it was BAD.)



Yes, I know what a pun is!



And don't feel attacked! I used your design as a GOOD example of a joke sub! Maybe I should have used one of the countless star wars subs instead... GOD I am sick of those...



I should have been clearer. For that, I apologize. Really.

oi





too much worked-up-ed-ness up in hurr

oi is right.

i think the text and graphics work fine for the facial hair design, i dont want anyone reading 'pervert' on my shirt from far away! it makes people want to look at it longer and say, hey...thats a funny shirt!

Yeah. I just think you picked a bad example to point out what you're trying to say. I mean, I'm biased obviously.

Also, if you're looking for only serious shirts with great art on them...that's great and all, but it also would limit the customer base. Some people would never wear artsy shirts. So you gotta think of it from threadless's eyes.

Maybe I'm just angry that every sub seems to have to have a definite POINT to get printed. For example, I really like le_hell's designs, just for the surreal quality. But they seem to get pretty low scores.

jman, with a 3.08 and 113 comments, i'd just kick back, smoke some mary jane, and wait for the threadgods to give you a ring. that's got print me bitch written all over it.

realslimnatey, you have a point. But I'm a girl, and I've had the creepy 40-year-old guy come up to me and say, "Heeeey, what's your shirt say?" and I stand there all uncomfortable while he slowly reads it, and I'm not sure whether I'm being violated in some way or if he really, trully cares what the damned thing says.



I think every girl has had a moment like this. It's unsettling!

why were you using his as a GOOD example if you were comparing something good getting a bad score... compared to something... good? getting a good score?



huh?

oh, and in jeremys defense...even though this really isnt a war...



he blogged about that design on here, and ways to improve it through the people of threadless...it originally started with bigger faces and larger text...but people kept asking for more and more!



he gave the people what they wanted...and im sure glad he didnt give us all that herpes simplex he has on his bottom lip!

I'm not upset. I'm really not. I just honestly think you picked a bad example.

I really don't think my Facial Hair shirt has a POINT at all, once again. It's just a collection of weird facial hair and I've given names to them....where's the point there?



I've always found the design quite random.

True, I should try to see it from a marketing standpoint. But there are just so many t-shirt printing websites out there-- and so many just print "funny" shirts! I would think that threadless could corner the market on the more "designer-y" ones. I mean, I think that they kind of did. I'm just hoping that they try to continue to have a good balance between the clever and funny and the graphically interesting.



(And jpiatt, I could yours among the clever. Clever! See? I'm trying to make things up to you!)

btw, i have a feeling welcoming committee will do fairly well on here, at least i hope so

By "Point" I meant an obvious subject. I don't know any other way to explain it...

funkstart your welcoming committee is probably my favorite design i've seen since i started this site last week

oh cmon kids! lets just kiss and make up...theres a party going on right now at the local chuck-e-cheese! who wants to go!? ill be the one sporting the 'chinstache'...

Hmm... glad you're optimistic realslimnatey, but I'm not. It's an okay design. Certainly not a JOHN2 or a stickymike. My god! Is there such a thing as a steroid for artists? 'Cuz if there wuz...