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mindtrance aka Justin is a 28.6 year old boy, has been a member since October 30, 2001, has scored 8564 submissions, giving an average score of 1.43.

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May 05 '08 by mindtrance

86 Comments

Watch this

Reminds me of JOHN2's style

about HEEEAAAAVYYY Metal!!!

just a little bit.

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FRICKINAWESOME on May 05 '08 at 10:32am

HA! It's like the sumo dudes from john's tee stopped fighting over the last piece of sushi and joined a hair metal band. Before clicking in I couldn't see which tee the models were wearing, and i was praying it was a dark version of this shirt.

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O well, this is still a well-made design, just not for me. Nice work!

stickymike on May 05 '08 at 1:06pm

thats what I thought when I saw it.

Its disappointing that Threadless continues to print artist who just bite on other peoples style so they can win $2000.

You can tell hes biting, because the rest of his subs lack any particular style, so he just decided to rip on Johns.

Just my opinion, but since I feel this has happened to me as well (along with many others) , its something i feel should be mentioned once more.

olie! on May 05 '08 at 1:10pm

I dunno, I don't think he really "bit" on JOHN2's style personally. . . but then again I don't really see anything wrong with borrowing styles in the first place. . . plus he put his own idea and concept into it so I dunno.

stickymike on May 05 '08 at 1:15pm

of course you would say that, you do the same thing.

The concept is important, but John2 brought something distinct of his own to Threadless, and when people obviously rip it off, I think its a huge problem.

I love Threadless to death, but I hate when they do this sort of stuff. Why no err on the side of caution.

bsweber on May 05 '08 at 1:21pm

so is it safe for me to guess you're bitter about a past injustice mike? seems odd you would care about this so much.

EricDiaz on May 05 '08 at 1:23pm

Maybe threadless just has a thing for fat people on shirts? Ripping off other peoples styles can be a touchy subject but i don't think this is a JOHN2 ripoff. Though i would much rather wear 'the last piece', this design is pretty sweet.

r.o.b.o.t.i.c.octopus on May 05 '08 at 1:23pm

i like mathiole's design a lot more!

i have noticed a lot of style biting too....particularly of VnV's...but this too.

ginetteginette on May 05 '08 at 1:25pm

i can totally see where stickymike is coming from but it's mostly because i've never understood how people can work in several different styles at once. it sort of weirds me out not knowing which of those is their true voice, but maybe i just view 'style' differently than most do.

r.o.b.o.t.i.c.octopus on May 05 '08 at 1:26pm

bsweber, mike is a champion of those whose art is ripped off. before it even happened to him. it's quite an assumption to say that he's only concerned about it because it happened to him.

you don't know him well enough to asses that.

Malcolm Man on May 05 '08 at 1:27pm

Yeah, it's a delicate balance. Of course styles will get diluted and used and applied in different ways. On the other hand, I don't like to see an artists style to be straight up copied.

When I fist saw the design, I thought it was John's. It's a little too similar to his work for my liking.

bananaphone on May 05 '08 at 1:27pm

get over yourself dude, people wouldn't just rip off a style and draw ugly fat guys playing guitars to get a "sure print".

We all know there are much cuter less challenging things to draw if you're really trying to get the cash.

Malcolm Man on May 05 '08 at 1:28pm

I just don't think the fore mentioned deign would even exist if it weren't for John.

bananaphone on May 05 '08 at 1:28pm

damn right mike is bitter, hes probably still cut about that stupid fucking heart with face sub.

olie! on May 05 '08 at 1:29pm

Even so, I'm sure JOHN2 isn't the only one who draws in that style. He probably draws elements from a lot of other people work, too, I don't know a single artist that doesn't. But as I've said before I just don't see it as a straight up copy anyway.

bananaphone on May 05 '08 at 1:30pm

everything is inspired by everything else from the perspective of a person.

If we applied the same rationale to bands we'd be bitching all day about successful and decent bands.

danrule on May 05 '08 at 1:31pm

To call this ripped is asinine.

olie! on May 05 '08 at 1:31pm

ginette, also why can't an artist have more than one "true voice" so to speak depending on what kind of idea they want to get across?

bsweber on May 05 '08 at 1:31pm

so is it safe for me to guess you're bitter about a past injustice mike? seems odd you would care about this so much.

this is sarcastic, i'm aware of what happened in the past (HWF sub).

Malcolm Man on May 05 '08 at 1:32pm

"If we applied the same rationale to bands we'd be bitching all day about successful and decent bands."

Well, we could, but who has the time with all the important...stuff we've got to do.

ginetteginette on May 05 '08 at 1:33pm

threadless users are bound to be influenced by other designers who submit here, and unless john2 himself feels like he's been ripped then i don't think it's for us to say..

Malcolm Man on May 05 '08 at 1:34pm

"Even so, I'm sure JOHN2 isn't the only one who draws in that style. He probably draws elements from a lot of other people work, too, I don't know a single artist that doesn't. But as I've said before I just don't see it as a straight up copy anyway."

I agree 100%. This particular design is just too similar.

Just my humble opinion.

corey9 on May 05 '08 at 1:34pm

holy crap. that guy still thinks he invented packman eyes.

realslimnatey on May 05 '08 at 1:35pm

everyones always trying to be fuckin special and unique, forget it, whatever youre doing today, someone else did yeeears ago

that was a special announcement to everybody

ginetteginette on May 05 '08 at 1:35pm

an artist definitely can have more than one style and a lot of people do, i just don't quite understand it because i don't work that way.

realslimnatey on May 05 '08 at 1:36pm

look!

ginette bit my rainbow gradient that i bit off something else

realslimnatey on May 05 '08 at 1:36pm

oops, mines not a gradient really

ginetteginette on May 05 '08 at 1:37pm

nawww 'everything that can be done has been done' is bullshit.

EricDiaz on May 05 '08 at 1:37pm

Speaking of rip offs, that unicycleman guy is outta here!! Threadless gave him the boot i guess.

olie! on May 05 '08 at 1:37pm

Let me ask you this: if it was just 3 skinnier metal guys, drawn in the EXACT SAME WAY that they are now, just less fat, would this blog even exist? Or is it just the fact that both shirts' main elements are 4 fat guys lined up next to eachother centered on the chest?

ginetteginette on May 05 '08 at 1:38pm

i think a lot of it has to do with them being overweight too olie..

Tonteau on May 05 '08 at 1:39pm

"ginetteginette on May 05 '08 at 1:37pm
nawww 'everything that can be done has been done' is bullshit."

-------

Absolutely.

ginetteginette on May 05 '08 at 1:41pm

i knew you would agree tonteau! honestly i think once a designer believes that they are bound to create trash we've all seen before.

iDanSimpson on May 05 '08 at 1:43pm

serious business.

ginetteginette on May 05 '08 at 1:45pm

ps. my last comment was aimed at this : "everyones always trying to be fuckin special and unique, forget it, whatever youre doing today, someone else did yeeears ago"
and not the design..

Tonteau on May 05 '08 at 1:48pm

Self-fulfilling prophesies, ginette. I won't pretend that I'm doing anything particularly interesting or original, but I completely believe there's new and interesting stuff out there to be done. If there isn't then we might as well all pack up and go home.

bananaphone on May 05 '08 at 1:51pm

Hate to break it to you but nate is right, not everyone can be a warhol. All we can do is take things that exist already (regardless of us knowing or not of their existance) and take them for a ride.

Fortunately accessable technologies for t-shirt design is opening a lot over the last few years and opening more opportunities for creativity.

To think one's work is completely unique may be true but there will always be comparisons.

stickymike on May 05 '08 at 1:51pm

"holy crap. that guy still thinks he invented packman eyes."

please find a quote where i said that.

the guy ripped me off, plain and simple. check my ice cream sub, and check the high cholesterol color options....

and I'm not bitter about it anymore, just tired of people not having any standards for art around here. I called out Rudeboyzach and got stomped on like crazy, till i found out he was straight tracing peoples shit, AND STILL people stuck up for him.

olie! on May 05 '08 at 1:51pm

whatever youre doing today, someone else did yeeears ago

That's one thing I'm still not sure if I should believe or not. . . I think it honestly all depends on what your personal definition of "original and unique" is because that changes from person to person.

tiphaine on May 05 '08 at 1:52pm

i agree with bananaphone & olie... just because something's been done before doesn't mean that there isn't a new and fresh way to take it on. it doesn't mean that the hand of the artist doesn't impart something indefinable that elevates something from a retread into something special.

i dunno. frankly i don't even think the style is that similar.

olie! on May 05 '08 at 1:53pm

or I could just say I agree with bananaphone, 'cause he said stuffs way more eloloquentley than I dun said 'em.

realslimnatey on May 05 '08 at 1:54pm

pack up and go home you two losers!

really though, i do see elements of johns style in there but i still think its a great illustration on its own, he probably admires johns work just like a lot of folks

everyone gets influenced by certain things and tries to grow as an artist by adapting it to their own pieces, its not completely biting anything, its just growing, like a chia pet

bananaphone on May 05 '08 at 1:54pm

last i checked mike, this is a t-shirt site that makes money, not an art site.

You'd be silly to mistake the two.

stickymike on May 05 '08 at 1:56pm

haha you are the definition of an idiot banana.

danrule on May 05 '08 at 1:58pm

Mike, I don't see how you equate rudeboy who directly copied imagery to someone working in a similar style to you; esp. a style and content that is not particular or original to you.

Tonteau on May 05 '08 at 1:59pm

Self fulfilling prophesies, dudes. I refuse to believe otherwise.

shirtflirt on May 05 '08 at 2:00pm

that dude who got printed
has a design that looks EXACTLY like a V&V design

but i'm sure it's coincidence

ginetteginette on May 05 '08 at 2:00pm

whether it's a design or art site there should still be some artistic integrity? (in general: not meant to be aimed at this design)

bananaphone on May 05 '08 at 2:01pm

Ha yes you are right, this is an art site, oh how silly of me!

ginetteginette on May 05 '08 at 2:02pm

i dunno, i've always seen designs as art, but usually not the other way around.

stickymike on May 05 '08 at 2:03pm

danrule....im not. I'm saying I have been calling people out on here that have no relation to me whatsoever.

and yes, how silly of me for thinking a shirt that takes people illustrations and puts them on tshirts would have anything to do with art.

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