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arzie13
arzie13 aka ross zietz is a boy, has been a member since July 10, 2003, has scored 10,720 submissions, giving an average score of 2.80, helping 995 designs get printed.
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Submission scoring numbers were at their highest in 2007. Designs were averaging around 2500 scorers back then, now the average is around 600 scorers. We want to get this number up again.

Some ideas:
Mobile Scoring App
Facebook Scoring App
Stricter sub policies
Scoring incentives

I know there have been other discussions about this. Do y'all have any other ideas or insights about this?
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SJ27
SJ27 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:14am
When will Powerscore be made a proper part of the site? That really helps.
brentendo
brentendo on Jun 24 '10 at 11:15am
stricter sub policies, and I like the sound of mobile and facebook apps
martiandrivein
   martiandrivein on Jun 24 '10 at 11:15am
yeah scoring incentives I think would get people in. and the mobile app could be fun. I think there should be more of a tournament style this or that kind of option maybe....and definitely more strict sub policies.
addu
addu on Jun 24 '10 at 11:16am
SJ27 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:14am
When will Powerscore be made a proper part of the site? That really helps.

Mobile application sounds good.
jamesf
   jamesf on Jun 24 '10 at 11:17am
stricter sub policies and scoring incentives would be nice.
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Jun 24 '10 at 11:18am
yes please to stricter sub policies & iphone app

scoring incentives would be fun but not as important as weeding out more subs. a lot of people complain about scoring being painful because they're having to give out so many low scores
soloyo
soloyo on Jun 24 '10 at 11:18am
Free STP's every 500 sub scored :-)
tracerbullet
   tracerbullet on Jun 24 '10 at 11:18am
definitely stricter sub policies.

i'm iffy on scoring incentives. that might just cause people to keep clicking the same number over and over just to get stuff.
SJ27
SJ27 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:19am
Yes! I was just going to suggest an STP for every thousand. I'm not as generous.
Jake Friedman
Jake Friedman on Jun 24 '10 at 11:20am
Definitely stricter subbing policies. Maybe, as incentive, Threadless offers some about of STPs for every 500 subs.
SJ27
SJ27 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:20am
Oh, yeah, people might click whatever, or use bots even.
fatheed
   fatheed on Jun 24 '10 at 11:20am
The incentive used to be that people felt that they were a part of something awesome. Simply crank up the awesomeness.
SJ27
SJ27 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:21am
You could have like a 1-day 1.5 Rule, then a 3-day 2.2 rule then only let the best go 5 days.
belekas
belekas on Jun 24 '10 at 11:21am
If you would give one street team dollar for 1000 scored designs, that will get the numbers up, although I'm not sure about hhe quality.

Also, comment of the week, and critique advice of the week could get rewarded somehow.
ir0cko
   ir0cko on Jun 24 '10 at 11:21am
yes. stricter sub policies.
dschwen
   dschwen on Jun 24 '10 at 11:22am
If people could score with facebook accounts, that would be HUGE!
Ryder Revolution
   Ryder Revolution on Jun 24 '10 at 11:23am
stricter sub policies for sure... whenever i just start scoring i feel like i'm going through my mail and there's all this junk email...
5eth
   5eth on Jun 24 '10 at 11:23am
I think scoring incentives would get us a lot of fluff votes that aren't really worthwhile. Definitely stricter sub policies though.

A Facebook scoring app could potentially bring a lot more people around to Threadless. On the other hand, it could get some more votes but never actually bring new members over for good...
arzie13
   arzie13 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:23am
Working on pushing powerscore right now.
Here's the link if y'all want to try it!
Resistance
   Resistance on Jun 24 '10 at 11:23am
iPhone scoring app plz!!!!

Stricter sub policy, maybe even have a 1 day testing ground where there are two buttons: 1) Put up for vote 2) Put into critique. So the crappy stuff doesn't pollute the voting pool.

SJ27
SJ27 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:24am
If you have stricter sub policies, then everything that gets declined now should just be told "this isn't good enough" and all the new, slightly better stuff that gets declined can be told "try the critiques" because I hate the Critiques.
xiv
   xiv on Jun 24 '10 at 11:27am
Stricter sub policies
please.

i dont score much anymore because there is so much crap getting accepted. in a group of 20 subs, there's prob only 3 or 4 top-notch ones that deserve a 4+.
SJ27
SJ27 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:27am
Don't make us have to go in the "put up for vote" thing because then we still have to score all the crap. Let a staff member decide that. If it feels like work, it's work. The problem now is we have to wade through rubbish subs.
tracerbullet
   tracerbullet on Jun 24 '10 at 11:28am
i don't score because i'm just lazy most of the time. you should do something that makes me less lazy.
bortwein
   bortwein on Jun 24 '10 at 11:30am
stricter sub policies won't increase the number of people scoring, but it would be nice not to have to score some of the low quality submissions that show up.

Perhaps an easier way to sign up to vote than creating a full blown account. Like being able to vote but you have to register your email and type in one of those code things. That would allow a person to vote but not have to worry about being logged into the site or even be a member. The email registration would be used to stop the abuse of the system in theory.
ilovedoodle
   ilovedoodle on Jun 24 '10 at 11:31am
Stricter sub policies
Scoring incentives

YESSS PLS! Maybe give out discount coupon for the shirt the voters 5$ and printed. this will make the voting process more excitement.
Resistance
   Resistance on Jun 24 '10 at 11:32am
SJ27, the "put into the vote" pool would be separate, so it would be optional. You basically separate the sub-par stuff and let those who wish to decide whether or not it makes it.

In other words, the regular voting pool would shrink quite a bit because it would be tougher to make it. If you submit something sub-par you gotta get past the council! lol And voting on the council pool would be completely voluntary, or maybe threadless opens up for volunteers so that way people don't get their friends to push their design through.
SJ27
SJ27 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:32am
When I score five designs I want a sound effect, then when I score 100, I get a better sound effect, something like "All right!" then more sound effects. "Keep going! You're doing great! I'd buy it too!" Then at the end instead of that High Five picture, I want an exclusive Bob and Kristen video. Also, there should be a special contest in the video that would be a secret so only people who score all designs sometime that week get to see it and find out about that contest, then we go on the prize wheel.
Jake Friedman
Jake Friedman on Jun 24 '10 at 11:32am
Brian, take this Placebo, should work wonders for your laziness.
5eth
   5eth on Jun 24 '10 at 11:33am
Being able to vote via Facebook account would make a lot more people vote.

Kinda like being able to comment on Gizmodo/Engadget through your Facebook account..you know?
bortwein
   bortwein on Jun 24 '10 at 11:33am
This is sort of related: When you submit a design now and are using the Facebook connection, it posts that you submitted a design and they should go vote, but because it is still pending you can't vote on it at that moment. By the time the submission is in voting, it is old news on facebook. Perhaps the facebook post should coincide with the submission going live into voting and not upon submission.
fatheed
   fatheed on Jun 24 '10 at 11:33am
IDEA 1.

SHOWCASE: How about a system where you showcase the weeks most talked-about designs? People are overwhelmed by the number and variety of designs submitted - if you had a system that would elevate the most interesting/controversial/awesome designs (maybe 100?) then people could browse them without being overwhelmed.

It could work like the digg system where you recommend or 'bury' a design if you don't think it should be showcased.

That way, the showcased designs could be constantly changing and work on a user recommendation basis. It would be the aim of the designers to try to promote it to get it into the showcase section and perhaps find a way to reward users who are recommending designs that do well. That way you are also encouraging people to trawl through the 600+ submissions trying to see if they can find a gem.
nathanwpyle at gmail.com
   nathanwpyle at gmail.com on Jun 24 '10 at 11:34am
When one submits something, he / she should have to score 50 designs before the submission goes through. This will both

increase scoring (myself included)
decrease subs from people who don't really care.
SJ27
SJ27 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:35am
I just don't think anyone would bother participating in something that involves wading through crappy designs when the problem now is wading through crappy designs. People would just do the fun stuff. Like the way no one posts on Critiques, because they all suck and can't be helped and they're painful to look at. So then this "put into the vote" pool would be dominated by a creepy Threadless subculture like the Critiques are and who knows what they'll put through.
Jake Friedman
Jake Friedman on Jun 24 '10 at 11:36am
What if, after finishing all the subs for the week, a code comes up. Then every Thursday Ustream, you type in the code, which could be different for everyone, and they recognize it, and give STPs or a get a spin on the wheel, or something.
arzie13
   arzie13 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:36am
Nice idea Aled. We've thought about doing something similar!
SometimeLater
SometimeLater on Jun 24 '10 at 11:37am
I'd definitely go for an iPhone app. I'm sure Threadless could get a ton of buyers, even if it costs a few dollars.

Oh and the Powerscore thing is really awesome, what is that?
Morkki
   Morkki on Jun 24 '10 at 11:37am
How about a simpler voting system? 0-2 are just three levels of "NO" anyway.
belekas
belekas on Jun 24 '10 at 11:38am
Or make scorer shields, that could be diplayed next to the username (like alumni shields):

Voted on 1000 designs - Veteran Scorer
- bronze shield displayed next to your avatar.

Voted on 10 000 designs - Expert Scorer
- get some STPs, silver shield.

Voted on 40 000 designs - Guru Scorer
- get a Guru tee, gold shield.

That, combined with stricter sub policies, which will lower the amount of designs up for scoring, will ensure that one must spend a month scoring every design to get a "promotion".

Just look at all those WoW players killing virtual boars to level up :)


SometimeLater
SometimeLater on Jun 24 '10 at 11:39am
Not a bad idea @belekas.
SJ27
SJ27 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:40am
I like that designs are random and get equal exposure. Making a "showcase" feels like Keyboard Cat all over again, designs getting special treatment and exposure. And it feels spam-vulnerable. The people who don't seem to be getting attention because they don't get many comments are still getting the randomly-assigned votes, they just think they're not because of the lack of comments. So they sapm, then we point out they are getting the votes If you're going to "bury" designs that aren't getting buzz and going in the showcase, then people are going to look at the designs getting a lot more votes and trying to get attention for theirs by whoring their link all over.
juliejeremiah
juliejeremiah on Jun 24 '10 at 11:40am
Any potential iPhone app should be a freebie.
NomadSlim
   NomadSlim on Jun 24 '10 at 11:40am
As some others have mentioned, scoring incentives would probably lead to junk votes.

Stricter Sub Policies would be tremendous. The artists here are top notch. I don't think allowing a design into scoring that ends up with a 1.xx makes the designer any more/less likely to buy a shirt than it would if their entry was denied from the start.

If you still want to allow lower end designs, maybe there could be a monthly 'amateur' contest that anyone can enter and it is scored separately from the rest of the stuff. That sounds like too much work, but maybe it will spark someone to come up with a better solution.

Or maybe to get people using critiques more, make that contest something that prints from Unprinted Designers only who make their design better through critique and print 2 of those per month?
sonmi
   sonmi on Jun 24 '10 at 11:41am
definitely needs a mobile app. especially because of flash submissions. i'm not sure if there was supposed to be a jpg alternative in case you don't have flash, but that option never works on my phone, so i can't vote a majority of subs on my phone, currently.
fatheed
   fatheed on Jun 24 '10 at 11:43am
An app is a no-brainer for me.
againstbound
   againstbound on Jun 24 '10 at 11:44am
A free puppy for every sub you vote for.
Resistance
   Resistance on Jun 24 '10 at 11:44am
SJ27, if you have veteran voters like myself who are willing to participate, then threadless could allow a certain number of volunteers who are actually present, purchasing, and voting on a regular basic offer our voting services to help with the weeding out process.
SJ27
SJ27 on Jun 24 '10 at 11:45am
OK, but if they're inviting people to do it it's really more of a staff thing, not something the public ever even needs to see?
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Jun 24 '10 at 11:45am
fatheed on Jun 24 '10 at 11:33am IDEA 1.

SHOWCASE: How about a system where you showcase the weeks most talked-about designs? People are overwhelmed by the number and variety of designs submitted - if you had a system that would elevate the most interesting/controversial/awesome designs (maybe 100?) then people could browse them without being overwhelmed.

It could work like the digg system where you recommend or 'bury' a design if you don't think it should be showcased.

That way, the showcased designs could be constantly changing and work on a user recommendation basis. It would be the aim of the designers to try to promote it to get it into the showcase section and perhaps find a way to reward users who are recommending designs that do well. That way you are also encouraging people to trawl through the 600+ submissions trying to see if they can find a gem.

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I think generally the most popular/controverial designs get enough exposure as it is. 'Showcase' would be the equivalent of the conservative's fiscal policy for the super rich.
juliejeremiah
juliejeremiah on Jun 24 '10 at 11:45am
I don't know exactly when or why this happened, but I used to score a lot of submissions. Used to go through them all, pretty much daily.

At one point there was a big site overhaul (new layout to everything) and I just never got back into scoring (beyond casually scoring what has been pimped on the blogs) after that.

I don't even think about scoring much anymore, to be honest. It's just easy not to, even when I'm super freaking bored on the blogs and have the time to kill. Is the portal to get to scoring simply less conspicuous now than it was? Maybe it could be as simple as rearranging a few things so that people browsing on products or the blogs are reminded to go give it a shot.

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