here here.

I agree. also, I want more street team points

also, I didn't read all of what you wrote up there, zalo. but I know it had to be good. because you're a red blooded blue collar working man jes like me

oh wait, are you canadian?

yes to canadian

crimson blood... but not after the red cross dries me out

right now i have no collar, but often the collar is blue or blue in the pattern ;)

working? - only when I can't avoid it

Preaching to the choir here man. I completely agree with you and I've been trying to motivate that kind of change for a while now. I'm starting to get back to subbing, and I'd like to run a pseudo competition that emphasizes meaningful design.

whatevs

i find it hard not to make them a little bit funny. i don't take anything very seriously.

oh steve, i wish something would bring happiness to your life

well I'm jus sayin







I guess I'd care more if I bought stuff

or if someone bought stuff for you *glares at kayce*

i definately agree. While the funny shirts are enjoyable, they lose the appeal of the artistic shirts.



my two favorite shirts right now, Not a Pirate and Prepare for Fight, are without meaning and are simply cool designs on a tshirt.

the visual jokes score well, the puns score second, and the neat art shirts or those with open interpretation barely make the cut. actual functional aesthetic designs get like no respect. at least here with voters with no attention span.

comedy does sell, but i agree, i don't want to go out wearing a punchline every day

the ones i wear most are king's cobra and something we guess not but yes....and RGB and 4 color palette....and then maybe my own...but that feels gay.

not to offend any fags out there.

After I finish my Tribeca sub I have a couple designs on the backburner I think you'll like Zalo.

is kayce buying me shirts?

why are people glaring at me?

haha sure steve. i'd buy you something. if i had money.

good night guys. got to listen to Coast to Coast AM...check it out if you have it on your AM dial...conspiracies, ghosts, doomsday talk radio. i go to sleep with a little radio under my pillow.



maybe that's why my subs are so fucked up.

haha travis!

This is my main problem. Most of my designs are basically aesthetic and ornamental by nature. I attach a loose concept to a style and create based on my intuition or feelings. Since the work is personal and nobody cares about me, it pretty much falls by the wayside unless there is a really flashy visual involved.



Also, I rarely illustrate with a goal in mind because I don't want to end up disappointing myself. Those times when it's sucessful, I become overjoyed; those times where I fail, I feel as though I've wasted lots of time.

well yeah- it's always the things you really like that no one gets, and the things that you think are 'eh' that really catch on.

very true. especially in critiques, as of late. something i just threw together and didnt really like, everyone else likes. ugh.

YES! A rule of thumb: the prototype you like the least, is the one the client will pinpoint and gush over.



and the internal eye-rolling ensues

but then you know rest assured that you will always get work. save your good stuff for your niche market that gets you, and relax knowing that any shit you turn in to the client will awe them.

That's a very positive way to view the situation Travis. You just taught me something.



I'll hang on to that perspective, it'll help me out in this area.

there's a place for everything



i have some visual-pun shirts and some art/design - and they get rotated through based on how i feel that day, what color i feel like wearing that day, where i'm going (if i need to be "presentable" or not)...



i would like to see more "art-for-art's-sake" designs and wtf? abstract designs getting printed



also more variations in style - i like sketchy, chalk-drawn, and watercolor effects - anything that shows the hand of the artist



the clean vectored art look is fine - but more variety in what gets printed would be a plus



the in-your-face overdone i've seen it at the mall pre-teen humor "designs", anything that relies heavily on combining clip art with swirls and drips, or tracing/vectoring stock photos found with google, get really old really fast

Yeah I tend to domy best work for every client until they start asking for stupid changes, thats when I know to turn off my talent and just ride the job out and give them the shit they keep on insisting on. Otherwise its just too frustrating to deal with.

and theres alot of good art t-shirts lately, especially the hogboy select and also the hills have eyes one, amongst others. So I'm not sure why you've chosen now to complain about it when its better at the moment than it has been.

likely cuz everyone has their own definition of "art" and "artistic"



also cuz my shirts are fading and I need new ones hahaha



oh and personally if you're like me and create something with meaning, I'll think I finally find someone that gets it, and they're all like yes that's deep and meaningful, but have pulled a totally different meaning/interpretation that what I had meant

yes to more abstract art and just plain weird sketchyness.

The assertion that art is subjective I find to be fairly ridiculous, but I see where you're going. Understanding your audience is also part of being an artist.



Man I just checked out Matthew Woodson's page, and he is a ridiculously good illustrator.

"also more variations in style - i like sketchy, chalk-drawn, and watercolor effects - anything that shows the hand of the artist"





the prblem with this is you have to be extremely good with vector graphics in order to pull off a natural-looking watercolour look within the colour limitations...:)

I guess part of the appeal of "meaning" shirts is they elicit much stronger reactions, like, "HOLY TOLEDO, THAT'S CLEVER, MAN 5$$$$$$$$$" but the artsier ones are like "hey, that's kinda cool, if you look at it long enough.."