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Pencil Grade Chart (American Help Required)
I made this and obviously I need to clean it up a bit. Does it make sense in america?

Pencil Grade Chart A

Sim-1
Sim-1 on Oct 30 '09 at 6:17am
hehe. yeah!
Gar0
   Gar0 on Oct 30 '09 at 6:20am
I thought they just had 4 levels of hard/softness.

#1 softest - #4 hardest
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 6:22am
Yeah, that's what wikipedia told me, too. But I don't think that's universally true. Phil told me so.
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 6:48am
!
angelito
angelito on Oct 30 '09 at 6:50am
Oooh I like. I'd almost like to see what they look like without the uniform outline around them though?

I hated being told I was only allowed to use an H pencil at primary school. Everyone knew the B's were far more badass.
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 6:55am
HB was the standard in my youth. But occasionally I'd venture into 2B territory. Yeah, I was handful as a kid.
corey9
corey9 on Oct 30 '09 at 6:55am
makes sense. i dont remember F exactly, but its been awhile since ive bought a pencil. HBs have always been my go to for everything - its a perfect pencil.
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 6:56am
Thanks corey. So americans definitely use these grades most and not #1/#2/#3 etc?
corey9
corey9 on Oct 30 '09 at 6:57am
yep
corey9
corey9 on Oct 30 '09 at 6:57am
#2 is the standard school pencil here. but for drawing pencils it the h & b system
randyotter3000
   randyotter3000 on Oct 30 '09 at 6:58am
I actually love my 3h so much I even went on a mini adventure to get it back when my tutor borrowed it and dissapeared
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 7:21am
Thanks Corey!
spacesick 2
spacesick 2 on Oct 30 '09 at 7:24am
I agree with adrienne
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 7:28am
No outline?
stalliongsta
stalliongsta on Oct 30 '09 at 7:45am
#2 is the standard school pencil here. but for drawing pencils it the h & b system

as someone who doesn't draw often, i've never heard of H or B pencils.
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 7:48am
Bah! Thanks for letting me know. Where are you from, Stalloingsta?
stalliongsta
stalliongsta on Oct 30 '09 at 7:51am
midwest US
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 7:56am
Cool. So the #1 thing definitely is out there. Good to know. Thanks again.
mismonaut
   mismonaut on Oct 30 '09 at 7:57am
Corey nailed it. Everyone knows about #2 pencil (required for standardised tests), but has very little idea that there are others unless they buy art supplies.

I remember when I first got a set of drawing pencils for Christmas. The numbering/lettering system totally confused me (why, why, why were there letters?!)

But yeah. Common for art supplies; not for anything else.
Gar0
   Gar0 on Oct 30 '09 at 8:07am
my source was Schott's Miscellany, verified by lyrics from an Ice Cube track - You Know How We Do I.

Jack B. Nimble, and Jack B. Quick
if you wanna jack me on a lick, cause
I'm that fool from South Central
You think you stuck yourself, with a number 2 pencil
That's how I poke hot lead in yo' ass
fc gravy
fc gravy on Oct 30 '09 at 8:34am
i would also like to see what it looks like sans outine.
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 10:56am
Ok, will try it sans outline when I get time.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Oct 30 '09 at 11:02am
i've only heard of a #2 pencil

stupid scantron tests
nasmo
nasmo on Oct 30 '09 at 11:17am
Sweet idea. Did you actually make this with the corresponding pencils? One thing sticks out at me, and this might just be an optical illusion, but I think the 3H looks slightly lighter than the 4H. And consider this another vote for sans outline.
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 11:18am
Cheers, Al. I think I'll add a brackets (#1/#2) etc.Just to make it obvious.
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 11:20am
Yeah, nasmo, all with the corresponding pencils, but I wasn't very cosistent with my shading. It was late and I rushed lots of it and then went over other bits, which doesn't make for a great look. I'll try this again, later.
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Oct 30 '09 at 11:21am
but i'm not a designer

are these things graphic designers would know or everyone in general?
Maltzmania
Maltzmania on Oct 30 '09 at 11:24am
yes it makes sense
Bramish
   Bramish on Oct 30 '09 at 11:58am
Get rid of those outlines! Make it sccribly like.
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 12:29pm
Ok, I get it. I'll get rid of the outlines.

Thanks all.
littlem
littlem on Oct 30 '09 at 12:30pm
hard
littlem
littlem on Oct 30 '09 at 12:30pm
oops
2 days later
deboraborialis
deboraborialis on Nov 02 '09 at 10:29am
Tonteau on Oct 30 '09 at 6:55am HB was the standard in my youth. But occasionally I'd venture into 2B territory. Yeah, I was handful as a kid.

We got into trouble for using 2b, it was hb all the way. Frackin' nazi primary teachers. Love this btw.
Malcolm Man
Malcolm Man on Nov 02 '09 at 10:32am
sweet! I want it!
ginetteginette
   ginetteginette on Nov 02 '09 at 10:35am
weird, i assumed that in canada we'd have the same sort of pencils as the states and apart from movies i guess, i've never ever come across a #2 or #1 pencil. always HB in school and the rest in art pencil cases.
EN AJUSTES
EN AJUSTES on Nov 02 '09 at 10:55am
I like it, yes
Bio-bot 9000
Bio-bot 9000 on Nov 02 '09 at 11:07am
I worked in art retail for 2.5 years. There are 2 systems. #2 corresponds to HB, and is the standard for all scan-tron tests, as well as the default hardness for most pencils.
You might want to exaggerate the gradation here, as the top row all loos the same shade to me, as does HB through 5B. maybe try to reduce the gradient within grades, so that the eye can better see the gradient across grades.
Polyester Jones
Polyester Jones on Nov 02 '09 at 12:12pm
Yeah, I'm in Canada and I've never heard of or used a #1 or #2. I only know the line "standard #2 pencil" from American movies or something.
Our tests demand a "standard HB pencil".
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Nov 02 '09 at 6:48pm
Thanks for the feedback everyone. I'm not sure I'll make this into a t-shirt design. It was just an idea I had which I found interesting. I'll maybe get a broader selection of pencils and try to make a good fist of this.
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