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  Oct 21 '05 by Sterling_Hayden        5 Comments        Watch this      Share:  Share on facebook    Share on delicious    Share on digg    Share on MySpace    Tweet this    Stumble this    Share this on Kaboodle   
I've read the blogs. I fully understand the criticisms. I appreciate that this is a composite of existing images and concepts, and that the only display of originality was in actually sticking them together. And perhaps it did only take the artist three minutes to knock-up. But I still think this is a great T-shirt, and I will wear mine with pride.

And, furthermore, I would argue that there is valuable creativity in lumping together existing influences to see what you come with. Take British art-school bands, they are often little more than a winning cocktail of their fave records: Franz Ferdinand (Talking Heads, Blondie, Bowie), Kaiser Chiefs (Madness, The Clash, The Beta Band, Super Furry Animals), Super Furry Animals (ELO, The Beatles, The Beach Boys, Steely Dan) Blur (Everything under the sun, including: The Kinks, Nirvana, Wire, The Specials, Japan), The Smiths (The Byrds, Presley and British kitchen-sink dramas of the sixties), The Beatles (Music hall meets Chuck Berry).

I love all these bands, and the fact that some of their rip-offs are so blatant it's untrue (Rusholme Ruffians, Song 2, For Tomorrow, I Predict a Riot, Do You Want To, etc.) bothers me little. You can find more original bands, it's true (Joy Division, Pink Floyd and Orbital spring to mind), but you won't have as much fun.

'Predicament' could have looked like shit (like a helluva lot of other designs round here). It doesn't (on the contrary, it looks ace), so whether it's original or not seems rather a moot point to me.

Bramish
   Bramish on Oct 21 '05 at 5:26am
Some valid points. It's hard to come up with completely new concepts in any art form. I don't want to begin a whole new rant about this design - I liked it, but I like it less having seen the original painting.

I don't see a lot of merit in those new British 'indie' bands though. They're just way too derivative for my tastes.

But then I guess the same could be said of the bands I like. I'll shut up.
secretly robots
   secretly robots on Oct 21 '05 at 5:27am
a band that takes influence from another band isn't really the right metaphor. it's more like a band that does a cover of another band's song but takes total credit for it.
d3d
   d3d on Oct 21 '05 at 5:32am
who cares anyway. it's printed now. some like it, some don't. if you're opposed to it don't buy it and boycott the artist if you like. why did this blog even need to exist?
Bramish
   Bramish on Oct 21 '05 at 5:33am
Didn't the guy that made this admit to 'borrowing' some ideas though? You're right, that's not the right metaphor, but bands cover others' songs all the time as a homeage or whatever. I don't think you can make an almost exact copy of a painting, albeit with a different style, and call it a homage. It's like rewriting a novel, using your own words.
Sterling_Hayden
Sterling_Hayden on Oct 21 '05 at 5:46am
I see where you're coming from, Secretly Robots. But I don't think Predicament is a cover/rip-off of said painting (and I hope we're talking about the same painting). It's more that the concept has been hijacked. (And that is a big distinction.)

This is the way I see it:

Concept from original painting + Photoshop shennanigans = Predicament.

(Much in the same way that The Byrds + a funky rhythm section = The Stone Roses debut LP. And that, to me, is a good thing - and not with a handsome creative sensibility.)

Bramish says: " I don't see a lot of merit in those new British 'indie' bands though. They're just way too derivative for my tastes." And I respect that, but, for me, that's the point. I like derivative. Derivative is good. In my humble opinion, the day artists stop being derivative is the day art becomes boring.
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The Philosopher
The Philosopher on Feb 22 '06 at 9:16pm
I know this was written a long time ago, but for anyone who's listening i'd like to give a BOO YA!!! to Franz Ferdinand.
staffell
staffell on Feb 22 '06 at 9:27pm
wtf?
staplefish
staplefish on Feb 22 '06 at 9:30pm
The philosopher strikes with his uncanny technique of giving rather philosophical insight!
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