Profile for margolove - Dear artfriends, I have a question for you! (EDIT: Oooh la la, the final product!)

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Dec 06 '09 by margolove
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Dear artfriends, I have a question for you! (EDIT: Oooh la la, the final product!)

EDIT:

So, here's how half of it turned out :)

Thanks, friends!

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Okay, so I'm working on putting my final project together for photo, and while I know exactly what I want to do, figuring out how to get there is another matter. Basically, I want to overlay newsprint and then maps on a couple of different photos.

Something like this:

becomes this:

(it's a shitty mockup, but I think you get the idea).

I tried doing it in the darkroom in a couple of ways and it looked too sloppy (like... I used a rudimentary mask, which was a total pain in the ass to make and the results weren't great), so I'm down to my final option, which is making transparencies.

Either I'll make normal ones and put them on top of the images and then rephotograph them, or I'll make negatives of the images I want to overlay and then try to use those in the darkroom.

I guess my question is, ultimately, do you have any advice for how to do this? I need to get this stuff ready tonight, and while I have a basic idea of how to do it, I don't have loads of time (three days, and I have other classes/finals), so I can't afford to waste too much.

If I want to print 8.5x11 transparencies, should I be making them at 300dpi? Also, I don't really know how much texture/detail I should try to leave on them. Sigh. I'm going craaaaazy.

Steve The Great on Dec 06 '09 at 9:02pm

yeah, print a digital transparency then place it on the print and rephotograph.

Steve The Great on Dec 06 '09 at 9:02pm

it's how I'd do it.

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 9:12pm

should I make it at 300dpi, though? Does it matter? Can it be something different?

And do you think making a negative one to lay over the image would just not work at all, or would it just be harder?

randyotter3000 on Dec 06 '09 at 9:16pm

dpi is upto you the higher the dpi the higher the quality me thinks anything more than 300 will possibly end up as overkill

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 9:17pm

ah, okay, that's good to know. I mean, as it's a transparency, I'm thinking that the quality doesn't have to be *too* good, so that's a relief... definitely widens my options as far as source material goes.

dorkman on Dec 06 '09 at 9:21pm

I love this shot.

That's a face for currency! (I heard that somewhere, and agree..) : )

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 9:22pm

thank you! I'm glad. I'm almost sad that I'll be putting stuff on top of them, 'cause I actually really love them all on their own.

outline on Dec 06 '09 at 9:26pm

good photography turns me on

outline on Dec 06 '09 at 9:26pm

i mean....dpi.....digital transparencies....

dorkman on Dec 06 '09 at 9:27pm

Ha! I didn't want to say, but I do like it better as is, not print...

So what if you fail??

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 9:29pm

haha, I don't totally understand - do you mean if I fail at accomplishing this specific thing? If I can't get it to look right, I'll seriously just use the basic images instead. They look nice anyway, haha. And my final project can be whatever I want it to be, so it's not like it would kill it.

And all you others, pshaw!

Steve The Great on Dec 06 '09 at 9:30pm

trying to think of the easiest way to explain what I'm thinking

just printing through the newspaper would get you white letters on the final print.

making something else to print straight through seems to me like it would be impossible to do simply. To get the words black, you'd have to actually manipulate the original negative to be clear there. Or you'd have to do a complicated system of internegs which I can't even figure out

or you could just re-photograph the black words on the print and use that

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 9:31pm

Anyway, I guess the reason I'm even bothering with this is that I feel like it will all tie it together more as a whole, as I was envisioning it as a comment on identity... like, the things that influence you that you wouldn't normally notice are printed on your skin, if that makes sense.

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 9:32pm

yeah, I'm thinking the re-photographing sounds like the easiest right now. I can go get the transparencies printed tomorrow morning and then work on that. Plus, I don't think any other way of doing it would be as precise or accurate.

mike bautista on Dec 06 '09 at 9:32pm

Liz, your zoom lens is showing.

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 9:40pm

the map ones will hopefully look something like this:

dorkman on Dec 06 '09 at 9:47pm

ooh that map one looks cool.

I realized after I typed that sentence that I would be the only one who understood what the hell I was talking about. Here goes:

I meant -- I assume you need some kind of mixed-media result for a specific assignment, and that you might fail if you submit the "plain" pics. Anyhoo, I'm pooped and not too coherent.

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 9:48pm

oh, no, I definitely wouldn't fail :) It doesn't have to be mixed media at all - I just chose to bite off more than I could chew, haha.

dorkman on Dec 06 '09 at 9:48pm

Margo -- maybe you can help me. You're a girl, right?

What t-shirt should I get for my daughter, who is 13 going on 18. She wants the "rules of shotgun" shirt (or said so a few weeks ago), but thought she might like something cuter.

What do you think?

dorkman on Dec 06 '09 at 9:49pm

Well, if the newspaper one looks at all as good as the map one, I say go for it. I take back my comment earlier...

The map looks textured, or, I should say, 3-d-ish.

dorkman on Dec 06 '09 at 9:50pm

PS I get my kids threadless shirts every Christmas.

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 9:51pm

oh, well, awesome! Haha, yeah, I think it will look much better in practice. Hopefully. Guess I'll spend another hour tonight making another enormous newspaper college... good times.

As far as the shirts go, I think that one's appealing, but it's hard for me to judge. Honestly, I haven't been paying attention to anything that's come out recently on the site, so I don't think I'm very helpful :(

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 9:52pm

and aww, that's sweet! Good gifts, indeed.

dorkman on Dec 06 '09 at 9:54pm

Me neither! I've just spent some time cruising around, and there are some really colorful shirts, but, heck, she did say she wanted the "shotgun" shirt, so I guess I can't go wrong there.

That was my Hemingway sentence, above.

"Good times" making another enormous collage. You crack me up.

Did you have a good thanksgiving? Did you get back to Ohio?

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 9:55pm

it was alright. It's not really worth it to just go home for two days, so I just stayed on campus with some friends. We cooked dinner, though, so that was nice.

dorkman on Dec 06 '09 at 9:56pm

What can I say, I'm a sweet guy.

Speaking of which, I hope your friend never saw I labeled her cleavage on your Flickr photo...

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 9:57pm

oh no, no worries, haha!

dorkman on Dec 06 '09 at 9:57pm

That's cool, assuming it was with good friends.

I especially like buying shirts for my oldest son (14) who is autistic. He's high functioning and super-smart, and loves the ironic humor in many of the threadless shirts.

margolove on Dec 06 '09 at 10:14pm

okay, once again, thanks, everyone! I have a much better idea of what I'm doing now. Off to the darkroom to try to make some perfect prints...

3 days later

margolove on Dec 10 '09 at 5:45pm

bump, because after 50-60 hours of work I finished it!

margolove on Dec 11 '09 at 1:42am

bump, because, for real, thanks, guys.

dorkman on Dec 11 '09 at 10:06pm

sweet. nice jorb.

You should work for James Cameron on Avatar II! teehee

margolove on Dec 12 '09 at 1:07am

hahaha. Very funny :P

Polyester Jones on Dec 12 '09 at 2:42am

so amazing

Roostersauce on Dec 12 '09 at 2:47am

So.Cool.

Are you selling prints?

dorkman on Dec 12 '09 at 10:03am

Roostersauce makes a good point. You could sell this stuff.

margolove on Dec 12 '09 at 12:55pm

hmmm, you really think so? I guess I'll have to get some made for my etsy site, then! Do you think I should sell darkroom prints or just get them done digitally? I'll have to wait like a month if I do the first one...

margolove on Dec 12 '09 at 12:55pm

and thanks, Micah :)

3 days later

dorkman on Dec 15 '09 at 8:25pm

Yes, I really do think so!

I'd say go digitial, for ease... Question is, how do you sell it? Does Etsy work for such things? Or, can you sell them on consignment at an art store?

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