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skaw
skaw aka Jake Nickell is a 9.26 year old boy, has been a member since November 12, 2000, has scored 6125 submissions, giving an average score of 2.33.
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Hi everyone! label's recent blog "5 years of Threadless" inspired me to create my own recap of the non-stop insanity that has been running Threadless since Jacob and I officially started it in November of 2000.

2000-2002 - Threadless, The Hobby

Jacob and I met on an online design forum called Dreamless (it doesn't exist anymore) that was run by Joshua Davis. There was a tee shirt design competition that took place on a thread on Dreamless to design the official tee for an event to take place in London. Jacob and I and about 100 other people all entered and I actually ended up winning it with the design below. (It's a crappy design, I know, but it would make sense if you were a member of Dreamless b/c that's what the forum looked like)



So then Jacob and I started talking online about how awesome it was to participate in the competition. Dreamless was all about art and design and a lot of artists on there had 'battles' and shared/critiqued their work with each other. It was all around a very creative environment for hobbyists and professionals alike to unleash some creativity in their free time. We thought Threadless would be a fun project that would 'give back' to the community by actually creating goods out of the work created by these artists. We started it as a hobby, just a way to enhance the Dreamless community.

We held the first design competition directly on Dreamless. We started a thread on there asking people to make tee shirt designs and stated that we would print the winning designs, put them up for sale and use the profits to hold another competition and print more winning designs.

Jacob and I each invested $500, spent $200 of it on a lawyer to start skinnyCorp as a Sole Proprietorship under my name with the intention of doing web development work as well and the other $800 was spent on printing 2 dozen of 5 different designs submitted on the Dreamless thread that we liked. For the first few rounds, the winning designers received a few free copies of their winning tee and that was it. By 2002 though, winning designers also received $100 cash.

For the next TWO YEARS, Jacob and I worked full time jobs WHILE going to college AND running Threadless. For the 1st year, we actually got our tee shirt printer to ship our orders for us. The 2nd year, We stocked all the tees in my apartment meeting once a week to package all of that week's orders and then ship them out on our lunch break the following day. Shondi was already living with me at the time and she also helped package orders from the very beginning!

For those first two years, every dime we earned from selling tees just went right back into printing more of them.

2003-2004 - Threadless Gets 'Real'

Eventually Threadless snowballed to the point that Jacob and I needed to decide whether we should quit our jobs and work on it full time or stop doing it. I quit my job and set up an office right away, and Jacob followed a few months later. We rented about 900 sq ft and shared it with Chuck Forman of setpixel (who now runs i'm in like with you.) We converted skinnyCorp into an S Corp, finally started paying ourselves, hired our first employee (Good 'ol Craig Shimala) and made a go of it!

I was still in college when I made this decision and made a last ditch effort to finish up quickly by submitting a proposal to my Dean to let me test out of my remaining classes. I ended up getting credit for 7 classes I hadn't yet took but still had 3 to go. It became too stressful to continue to go to school while beginning to run my business full time and manage new employees so I dropped out.

At this point, even though Threadless was doing OK, it wasn't really enough to pay the bills and our main focus was our web development business. We basically used Threadless as proof that we knew how to build e-commerce websites. Craig handled the day-to-day order fulfillment and customer service while Jacob and I worked on programming boring websites and working on Threadless whenever we had a free moment.

This is also around the time Jeffrey (iFDL) started working with us. We were basically partnering with him to design the websites that we were programming and ended up hiring him when we discovered just how well we worked together.

By the end of 2004 we outgrew our space and had to move. Oh, and we were paying winning designers a bit more with $400 cash and a $100 gift certificate.

2004-2006 - The Big Growth Spurt

We moved from our 900 sq ft shared office space into a 3,700 sq ft space. We basically just sat in the corner of it when we first moved in and wondered, "WTF, why do we need this much space!?" Well, by the next year we ended up taking up the rest of the 1st floor, expanding to about 8,000 sq ft. And by October, 2006 we moved again into our current 25,000 sq ft main facility.

During these years I watched Threadless grow by leaps and bounds. In number of employees, warehouse space, tees being sold, designs being chosen per week, prizes being awarded to designers, etc, etc. Things were growing a lot in the first few years too, but going from 2 to 6 employees is a lot easier to take in than from 6 to 18 employees.

By the beginning of 2006 we decided we would need some help maintaining the growth. So, by late 2006 we took on an investor (Insight Venture Partners) that could help us figure out our fulfillment logistics and such. They've been a huge help so far. It's been a huge relief to me having some help in that area because I'm much more interested in the creative, fun side of the business. It's nice to have someone with expertise that is invested in the business to help us figure out all the boring stuff.

2007 and beyond - Now & Later

So far 2007 has been pretty rockin' ... it's always fun putting together our sales, it seems like every time we have one we out-do the previous one. We already added another 10,000 sq ft for pallet storage. The prize for a winning design is up to $2,000 in cash and prizes and will only get bigger.

Right now we're continuing to have fun rolling with the punches and opportunities that Threadless brings. It's always been about just doing what feels right and what we think would be cool to do. So right now, that consists of creating our very own private label tee shirt, setting up crazy retail stores starting in Chicago (we like to call them community centers), trying to do more for our international customers by getting shipping time and costs down and some other fun stuff, furthering Threadless Kids and a bunch of other random things.

Threadless is such a huge part of my life. Everyone in my condo building I'm sitting in here calls me the t-shirt king, it's hard to put on anything but a Threadless tee in the morning, I get to work with most of my best friends, I see new amazing artwork every day, communicate with people all around the world, am faced with new challenges every day and here I am blogging about it at 2 in the morning on a Tuesday o_O.

I love every minute of it :)

Awesome.
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skaw
   skaw on Jun 06 '07 at 10:00am
In the first competition we there were 5 winners:

DarthG
DarthG on Jun 06 '07 at 10:03am
ctrl+z = old school classic
Edword
   Edword on Jun 06 '07 at 10:04am
ctrl +z is classic!

AsStarsGoOut
AsStarsGoOut on Jun 06 '07 at 10:20am
what a great story, you must be proud of yourselves . You guys worked so hard!
martiandrivein
martiandrivein on Jun 06 '07 at 10:30am
I really hope the store opens before we are there... or it'd even be cooler if we were there for the GRAND OPENING!..haha =P. j/k, thanks again!
Khol
Khol on Jun 06 '07 at 11:07am
I've always wondered how Threadless came to be.
It's amazing to see how much it has grown in the past years, I love seeing people on the street wearing Threadless.

Now, what about a store in the Nation's capital? ;)
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Jun 06 '07 at 11:11am
that was really awesome man. make a movie about it.

and good luck. i'm a threadhead.
artdrops
   artdrops on Jun 06 '07 at 11:51am
That was/ is a very inspirational read. You guys have really created a great community and it inspires me to do more with my own business ventures.
Question: Do you guys, (or would you ever) design websites again or atleast help out one of your fellow threadlessians because I could really use your help. :)
tracerbullet
   tracerbullet on Jun 06 '07 at 12:05pm
awesome story, jake. you guys have come such a long way. but here's probably the most important question of all:

Today marks the last day Bob Barker will host The Price is Right. How is that going to impact Threadless?

BrandonB11
BrandonB11 on Jun 06 '07 at 2:59pm
woop thanks for answering my questions... i guess that means you should reprint my little outlaws huh?
ir0cko
   ir0cko on Jun 06 '07 at 3:09pm
awesome!

and mm, sour patch kids are the best.
asfi235
asfi235 on Jun 06 '07 at 5:43pm
Very cool.

And just a reminder to everyone, there's a (slightly redacted) compendium of designs here:

(almost) all designs

Which brings me to a not-so-silly question: why the gaps? I can understand it if Threadless wants to expunge from all memory the occasional disaster (there's one tee in particular that I'm thinking of) but some of the missing "all" designs are still in the catalog, such as this one by Label:

Hungry Hippo

What's up with that?
Kerrn
Kerrn on Jun 06 '07 at 6:00pm
What has been your favorite threadless shirt that has ever gone through threadless?
My real favorite changes every other week because I'm always falling in love with new stuff. But my all time favorite standby I think is probably My Little Pony by Lobstre.


gee whiz
i desperately want that shirt
and have been waiting forever for it to be reprinted...
since you love it so much you should use your power to reprint it.

-k.
crazysteven
crazysteven on Jun 06 '07 at 6:00pm
Skaw, if you guys open a store in Waikiki I definitely want to be the first employee. I live and work in the area right now. I would easily quit my job and work for you guys full time. Get at me!
ir0cko
   ir0cko on Jun 06 '07 at 6:04pm
i've been waiting for My Little Pony too, karen. really want it!
BrandonB11
BrandonB11 on Jun 06 '07 at 6:54pm
idk y i thought he said ma lil outlaws... but yea i also want my little pony
i carnt spel
i carnt spel on Jun 06 '07 at 7:00pm
that's a damn brilliant insight, it's just so great to hear of peoples putting their balls on the line to do what they love, and even better to hear that it is possible to succeed.

i've recently watched the video of one of your seminars and was so impressed i even made a blog about it... daring others to sit throught the 40 minute journey
http://www.threadless.com/profile/233845/i_carnt_spel/blog/221501/awsome_threadless_insight_awsome

so thanks for such a fantastic recap, who knows how many of us it can inspire to go on fulfill our own dreams whilst giving us such a cool place to hang out in the mean time:)

cheers:)
chronically bizarre
chronically bizarre on Jun 06 '07 at 9:27pm
ahaha, yeah my friends all think I'm a Threadless addict because, despite the fact that I do own other shirts, I only ever wear Threadless shirts. I can't even remember the last time I wore something that wasn't from Threadless. :D there are only a few people at my school that shop at Threadless but I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that obsesses this much.

le sigh, if only I lived in Chicago. :P silly North Carolina.
chronically bizarre
chronically bizarre on Jun 06 '07 at 9:30pm
ahhh it's amazing how successful you guys have become. :D hats off to every one of you. I'm looking forward to seeing what else Threadless will have to offer. ^^
Daniel San
Daniel San on Jun 07 '07 at 1:04am
Are you planning on opening any international stores?
ineo2
ineo2 on Jun 07 '07 at 1:13am
wow that was a really inspirational story
p.s.
whats up with a prate?
blythed
blythed on Jun 07 '07 at 1:15am
This is incredibly sweet, Jake. Congrats on all your success!
3 days later
zempt
zempt on Jun 10 '07 at 1:41am
Quite a success story.
xnarx
xnarx on Jun 10 '07 at 1:48am
Nice story Jake. I enjoyed every word. =)
alister
alister on Jun 10 '07 at 10:24am
It's very impressive that you can design and put together website. E.g. Threadleass and also your personal sites.
What kind of courses did you have to do to learn how to do it, and is it difficult to 'get the hang of it'?
skaw
   skaw on Jun 10 '07 at 11:13am
i learned how to put together websties on my own simply by tinkering.

it was just something i was interested in, didn't have any agenda in learning how to do it and thought it was fun. in high school i'd stay up late on my computer viewing source on other websites figuring out how they work just by tinkering around. it's like learning how to work on a car by taking one apart and putting it back together.

i really never took any programming courses in college, only design courses as my degree was multimedia/web design. i learned the programming completely on my own. by tinkering ;)
maija
maija on Jun 10 '07 at 11:32am
Thanks for the new tax and shipping system to Canada. It's very awesome to not have to worry about brokerage fees, no need to limit an order size and to have tees arrive in a week.
alister
alister on Jun 10 '07 at 4:14pm
What kinks things did you play around and tinker with, on other websites.

I'm interested in it aswell but dont want to take courses, as such, but just take it as more of a hobby.

What were the starting points, the basics that you started off finding out and understanding? (which then lead to being able to create Threadless; I would have thought there would be various websites which explain the basics and all)
deathcabfortom
deathcabfortom on Jun 10 '07 at 4:21pm
I have a question for you:

Can I have a job? lol.
harpo25
harpo25 on Jun 10 '07 at 4:41pm
great historylesson Jake!
Respect!

I was wondering where you see Threadless then years from now?
How small you want to keep it or howbig do you want it to get?
maija
maija on Jun 10 '07 at 4:44pm
What sorts of rides will be featured at the Threadless Fun Park (Opening Memorial Day weekend, 2017)?
harpo25
harpo25 on Jun 10 '07 at 4:45pm
ps; keep enjoying every second of your American Dream
and dibs on the first Threadlessstore in Belgium ! =- D
SheepMan22
SheepMan22 on Jun 10 '07 at 6:02pm
man your story is amazing in like 20 years you should write a book about your adventure
3 days later
harpo25
harpo25 on Jun 13 '07 at 7:52pm
lol@ majia

does sound good tho!
asfi235
asfi235 on Jun 15 '07 at 6:43pm
The Skinnylad website is a hoot. I especially like the tab for Threadless:

"This is my own small business which I run in my spare time."

Though I gotta admit I vastly prefer the present slogan to the original. Yep, that part needed some tweaking.

And lastly, the Cyberworks references are amusing. I, too, used to work for a company called Cyberworks, but this was a completely different entity, I think.
26 days later
sourbunny
sourbunny on Jul 12 '07 at 1:08am
are you hiring for the store yet? because i'm like, the awesom-most salesperson.
tobasco
tobasco on Jul 12 '07 at 1:16am
This is a cool story! It's great to see where it came from.

When is the NZ store being set up?
6 days later
r.o.b.o.t.i.c.octopus
   r.o.b.o.t.i.c.octopus on Jul 18 '07 at 1:00pm
first time reading this...and all i gotta say is:
pitch calendar
kennybanzai
   kennybanzai on Jul 19 '07 at 6:28pm
I just read the short history and that is amazing! I'm so happy to be participating! I mean how often in the worlds history has something like this ever existed or happened or is happening! This is a good thing that seems to be evolving more and more and is still maintaining that goodness. I wish the best future to you and your friends, both new and lifelong. Peace Ya'll!!! Whooooooot!!!!!
61 days later
fc gravy
fc gravy on Sep 18 '07 at 6:29pm
WOAH!
203 days later
xnarx
xnarx on Apr 08 '08 at 11:52pm
bumping for the guy doing the research.
255 days later
Chengui
   Chengui on Dec 20 '08 at 3:51pm
Crazy to hear this story! For some reason it was especially funny to hear that Craig was your first employee.

The Skinnylad website is a hoot. I especially like the tab for Threadless:

"This is my own small business which I run in my spare time."

Though I gotta admit I vastly prefer the present slogan to the original. Yep, that part needed some tweaking.


Also thought the ealry logo and description of the site are hilarious!
alexmdc
   alexmdc on Dec 20 '08 at 3:56pm
great story, you're kicking ass in life hahaha
Malcolm Man
Malcolm Man on Dec 20 '08 at 4:02pm
I read all of that!!!

Congrats to both of you! So glad to hear stories of small (hehe) business owner success!

I'm so glad to be apart of this community.

You guys are doing a great job.

Looking forward to the future!
Blake B
Blake B on Dec 20 '08 at 5:01pm
wow that made me really happy after reading that, im glad that you have had so much success, i can only imagine awesome things threadless will be doing in the years to come.

also you should really think about setting up a store in Kansas City (Missouri) ha
213 days later
rodrigobhz
   rodrigobhz on Jul 21 '09 at 9:39pm
Awesome, awesome story! I always wondered how this magic began and now I know. All I can say is: Keep up the good work and congrats!
jeffreyg
jeffreyg on Jul 21 '09 at 9:46pm
Wow that is awesome. YOU ROCK DUDE

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First of all, thanks for using Threadless! I spent many long, sleepless nights building this website! Shondi, my wife, is the best! Right now she is smiling like a little frog.

We live in Chicago and have 2 dogs, Norman and Sophie. We work together for skinnyCorp, a company Jacob and I started back in late 2000 along with this very site you're on right now, Threadless!

Since then, we've built all kinds of neat community driven websites and absolutely love doing it. Hoorah!