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skaw
skaw aka Jake Nickell is a 9.24 year old boy, has been a member since November 12, 2000, has scored 6125 submissions, giving an average score of 2.33.
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Hi everyone! label's recent blog "5 years of Threadless" inspired me to create my own recap of the non-stop insanity that has been running Threadless since Jacob and I officially started it in November of 2000.

2000-2002 - Threadless, The Hobby

Jacob and I met on an online design forum called Dreamless (it doesn't exist anymore) that was run by Joshua Davis. There was a tee shirt design competition that took place on a thread on Dreamless to design the official tee for an event to take place in London. Jacob and I and about 100 other people all entered and I actually ended up winning it with the design below. (It's a crappy design, I know, but it would make sense if you were a member of Dreamless b/c that's what the forum looked like)



So then Jacob and I started talking online about how awesome it was to participate in the competition. Dreamless was all about art and design and a lot of artists on there had 'battles' and shared/critiqued their work with each other. It was all around a very creative environment for hobbyists and professionals alike to unleash some creativity in their free time. We thought Threadless would be a fun project that would 'give back' to the community by actually creating goods out of the work created by these artists. We started it as a hobby, just a way to enhance the Dreamless community.

We held the first design competition directly on Dreamless. We started a thread on there asking people to make tee shirt designs and stated that we would print the winning designs, put them up for sale and use the profits to hold another competition and print more winning designs.

Jacob and I each invested $500, spent $200 of it on a lawyer to start skinnyCorp as a Sole Proprietorship under my name with the intention of doing web development work as well and the other $800 was spent on printing 2 dozen of 5 different designs submitted on the Dreamless thread that we liked. For the first few rounds, the winning designers received a few free copies of their winning tee and that was it. By 2002 though, winning designers also received $100 cash.

For the next TWO YEARS, Jacob and I worked full time jobs WHILE going to college AND running Threadless. For the 1st year, we actually got our tee shirt printer to ship our orders for us. The 2nd year, We stocked all the tees in my apartment meeting once a week to package all of that week's orders and then ship them out on our lunch break the following day. Shondi was already living with me at the time and she also helped package orders from the very beginning!

For those first two years, every dime we earned from selling tees just went right back into printing more of them.

2003-2004 - Threadless Gets 'Real'

Eventually Threadless snowballed to the point that Jacob and I needed to decide whether we should quit our jobs and work on it full time or stop doing it. I quit my job and set up an office right away, and Jacob followed a few months later. We rented about 900 sq ft and shared it with Chuck Forman of setpixel (who now runs i'm in like with you.) We converted skinnyCorp into an S Corp, finally started paying ourselves, hired our first employee (Good 'ol Craig Shimala) and made a go of it!

I was still in college when I made this decision and made a last ditch effort to finish up quickly by submitting a proposal to my Dean to let me test out of my remaining classes. I ended up getting credit for 7 classes I hadn't yet took but still had 3 to go. It became too stressful to continue to go to school while beginning to run my business full time and manage new employees so I dropped out.

At this point, even though Threadless was doing OK, it wasn't really enough to pay the bills and our main focus was our web development business. We basically used Threadless as proof that we knew how to build e-commerce websites. Craig handled the day-to-day order fulfillment and customer service while Jacob and I worked on programming boring websites and working on Threadless whenever we had a free moment.

This is also around the time Jeffrey (iFDL) started working with us. We were basically partnering with him to design the websites that we were programming and ended up hiring him when we discovered just how well we worked together.

By the end of 2004 we outgrew our space and had to move. Oh, and we were paying winning designers a bit more with $400 cash and a $100 gift certificate.

2004-2006 - The Big Growth Spurt

We moved from our 900 sq ft shared office space into a 3,700 sq ft space. We basically just sat in the corner of it when we first moved in and wondered, "WTF, why do we need this much space!?" Well, by the next year we ended up taking up the rest of the 1st floor, expanding to about 8,000 sq ft. And by October, 2006 we moved again into our current 25,000 sq ft main facility.

During these years I watched Threadless grow by leaps and bounds. In number of employees, warehouse space, tees being sold, designs being chosen per week, prizes being awarded to designers, etc, etc. Things were growing a lot in the first few years too, but going from 2 to 6 employees is a lot easier to take in than from 6 to 18 employees.

By the beginning of 2006 we decided we would need some help maintaining the growth. So, by late 2006 we took on an investor (Insight Venture Partners) that could help us figure out our fulfillment logistics and such. They've been a huge help so far. It's been a huge relief to me having some help in that area because I'm much more interested in the creative, fun side of the business. It's nice to have someone with expertise that is invested in the business to help us figure out all the boring stuff.

2007 and beyond - Now & Later

So far 2007 has been pretty rockin' ... it's always fun putting together our sales, it seems like every time we have one we out-do the previous one. We already added another 10,000 sq ft for pallet storage. The prize for a winning design is up to $2,000 in cash and prizes and will only get bigger.

Right now we're continuing to have fun rolling with the punches and opportunities that Threadless brings. It's always been about just doing what feels right and what we think would be cool to do. So right now, that consists of creating our very own private label tee shirt, setting up crazy retail stores starting in Chicago (we like to call them community centers), trying to do more for our international customers by getting shipping time and costs down and some other fun stuff, furthering Threadless Kids and a bunch of other random things.

Threadless is such a huge part of my life. Everyone in my condo building I'm sitting in here calls me the t-shirt king, it's hard to put on anything but a Threadless tee in the morning, I get to work with most of my best friends, I see new amazing artwork every day, communicate with people all around the world, am faced with new challenges every day and here I am blogging about it at 2 in the morning on a Tuesday o_O.

I love every minute of it :)

Awesome.
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steviec
steviec on Jun 06 '07 at 4:33am
Leon: No shit! How appropriate.
Cheers!
kiLLyou
kiLLyou on Jun 06 '07 at 4:34am
awesome.
i want to come to your class miss R!
adam antium
   adam antium on Jun 06 '07 at 4:34am
i can bet you love it! :)

congratulations!
on everything.
and keep rocking.
ilovetomasb
ilovetomasb on Jun 06 '07 at 4:40am
oh please oh PLEASE san francisco
GallyAl
GallyAl on Jun 06 '07 at 4:41am
d3d on Jun 06 '07 at 4:19am
you could rent billboard space on your legs alice. it's work you can take with you.

Hehe..true! It would interfere with my ass's/asses/ass'(?!) constant need to be parked in the nearest chair though..you see the bind I'm in?!
ilovetomasb
ilovetomasb on Jun 06 '07 at 4:41am
omg you guys started when you were 20. im 20. living at home.. community college.. workng at a server

u guys r like role models
ilovetomasb
ilovetomasb on Jun 06 '07 at 4:42am
sorry working as a server.. at bj's no less
fatheed
   fatheed on Jun 06 '07 at 4:49am
Thanks for this Skaw. Awesome insight into how it happened and exciting prospects for the future. Just thinking about it's burgeoning success - I just hope that if someone comes in with a financial offer for Threadless too good to turn down - you and the current team can at least remain in management there.

Can you not announce a prize increase on the back of '7 Years of Threadless'? :-)
OlliRudi
   OlliRudi on Jun 06 '07 at 4:54am
$5!time flies, eh?
btw,you should use your fork lift operator's licence more in the videos.
jimmytan
   jimmytan on Jun 06 '07 at 5:08am
omg! tats long journey but meaningful! respect!
lunchboxbrain
lunchboxbrain on Jun 06 '07 at 5:09am
nice recap - all i can say is keep up the good work!
spacesick
   spacesick on Jun 06 '07 at 5:10am
lol @ tazzie's face
jpiatt
   jpiatt on Jun 06 '07 at 5:20am
What an inspiring blog to read to start my day! Congrats to you and everyone who's truely living the American dream that you are living. The best part about you all living your dream is that you are helping other people live their dreams now as well. I'd have to say that being printed here is the highlight of my short career thus far.
I am very excited to see more "community centers" opening, not just in Chicago, but hopefully all over the world. The private label shirts are going to be GREEEEAT too. I have the I Heart Threadless one and absolutely love it. Fruit of the Loom shirts are almost unwearable now after wearing the new one.
If you have any plans of opening a store in the Mall of America in Minneapolis let me know ;) I have retail managment and sales experience!!! :) Plus I absolutely love this freaking website that you all have built up.

Thanks again for this awesome history. You should make a documentary style video about Threadless's history with interviews!
taz-pie
taz-pie on Jun 06 '07 at 5:25am
lol @ my fist in space's face
stubby43
stubby43 on Jun 06 '07 at 5:25am
I'd love to work for a uk store.
stubby43
stubby43 on Jun 06 '07 at 5:33am
I just realised how rude and forward that sounded, sorry back to the topic, threadless is an amazing company and has changed my life, its made me realise that I can make something of my interests and i dont have to work for someone else and its helped me get a plan of how to do things.

So for that, its a bloody big thanks.
eskimokiss
   eskimokiss on Jun 06 '07 at 5:36am
Great recap on the history jake :)
just one error i noticed if you don't mind me pointing it out ;)...

"By the end of 2004 we outgrew our space and had to move. Oh, and we were paying winning designers a bit more with $250 cash."

Actually the prize money went up from $100 cash/$100 GC in mid 2004 to $400 cash/$100 GC.. late 2004, and for a while it seemed to go up a week or 2 after every time I'd get printed :/

I've had a blast the last 6 years. Keep up the great work :)
phones
phones on Jun 06 '07 at 5:39am
Cool blog!

when are going to start sponsoring Pro Bull Riding?
eskimokiss
   eskimokiss on Jun 06 '07 at 5:46am

$1500+$250GC+12month club
incidently, as stated earler, I've been printed roughly 2-3 weeks prior to every prize increase.
eskimokiss
   eskimokiss on Jun 06 '07 at 5:48am
hmm the first part of my comment has dissappeared.. that's meant to say that since ive been here the prize has gone up 3 times...
$100+$100GC
$400+$100GC
$750+$250GC
Leonard Lau
Leonard Lau on Jun 06 '07 at 5:50am
This made for nice (and heart warming) reading.

Thanks for the brief history skaw even though I'm a n00b in comparison to the vast majority of Threadlessers on here.

Heres to another million years!
Alexandra Marie
Alexandra Marie on Jun 06 '07 at 5:51am
What's incredible is the brilliant business concept that Threadless is. Not only have you created a community in which the individuals get to interact and critique and invest themselves in the product, therefore creating an added incentive to buy, but each and every customer is a walking billboard, advertising far and wide.
Kudos to you guys and thanks for a great site and some great tees!
PacificLight
PacificLight on Jun 06 '07 at 5:52am
Cheers, what a great story!
yeohgh
   yeohgh on Jun 06 '07 at 6:08am
saw your guys presentation last time on net, what a great inspiration and what a great journey to be, keep ROCKING u guys! and all the best!! HAVE all the great FUN!!! As always!
Monkey III
   Monkey III on Jun 06 '07 at 6:22am
adopt my family


do it.
Manos
   Manos on Jun 06 '07 at 6:35am
You can't ask for more when dreams come true :)
eskimokiss
   eskimokiss on Jun 06 '07 at 6:37am
quite ironic seeing as it started on a site called dreamless
Manos
   Manos on Jun 06 '07 at 6:42am
^^ ha good observation eskimo.
corey9
corey9 on Jun 06 '07 at 6:49am
very nice 5$
Tonteau
   Tonteau on Jun 06 '07 at 6:51am
Cool story, skaw. Keep up the good work.
OlliRudi
   OlliRudi on Jun 06 '07 at 7:14am
i am so looking forward to the private label shirts!
sonmi
   sonmi on Jun 06 '07 at 7:37am
awesome story! it's great to hear the backend of things. especially hearing how much work went into it the first few years. i'm sure a lot of people are envious of threadless' success now, but wouldn't have the motivation to stick with it like so many other dotcom businesses of the early 2000's.
mj00
mj00 on Jun 06 '07 at 8:22am
Thanks for posting this- I've always wondered what the early history of this site was like.
squintygirl
squintygirl on Jun 06 '07 at 8:28am
What a great read. It's always a fresh change to hear about a labour of love that has really paid off, and we all get something out of it, to boot! Congratulations!
TreeFiddy
TreeFiddy on Jun 06 '07 at 8:34am
very inspiring story man...I wish I could figure something out like this haha. How much revenue do you guys take in in an average year? *just curious*
kayceislost
kayceislost on Jun 06 '07 at 8:46am
awesome jake, awesome.
Torakamikaze
   Torakamikaze on Jun 06 '07 at 8:54am
quite the awesome story jake, nice and inspiring.

Now the question is, who will be playing you in the Lifetime original "Threadless: The 900 Sq Ft Dream"?


... since its a lifetime movie, you'll have to throw an abusive husband in there too. Im not sure how well that'll fit into your story though
chelly
chelly on Jun 06 '07 at 8:56am
$5. this should be posted somewhere on the site besides the blog so that future ppl can find it easily.
pickledbib
pickledbib on Jun 06 '07 at 9:05am
I stumbled across threadless around about the end of 2003 opened up my inaugural account and started scoring away... I couldn't help thinking to myself that this was such a great idea and why hadn't anyone thought of this before... it was such an archaic site back then.

a few years had passed and just like stevie above I found someone wearing eskimokiss' "jc was a streaker" tee and came back to rekindle the passion, opened up a new account and my addiction had fully formed (funny thing is I'm from Sydney too).

congrats! nice to see all your hard work paying off... it's a great rags to riches story... well deserved.
jess4002
jess4002 on Jun 06 '07 at 9:08am
what an awesome read! congrats! :)
Edword
   Edword on Jun 06 '07 at 9:08am
Awesome man! I loved reading that. I was into this site way back and found it again after like 5 years and couldn't believe how much it had grown. This is now my internet home:) Here's hoping things only get better.
wullagaru
   wullagaru on Jun 06 '07 at 9:12am
seriously this is a great read and shows just how much you guys care about this business
angelito
angelito on Jun 06 '07 at 9:13am
Hooray!
label
   label on Jun 06 '07 at 9:20am
Awesome!! This trully is a great recap. Thanks for sharing.
:)
skaw
   skaw on Jun 06 '07 at 9:30am
Woops I went to sleep! But now I woke up and can answer some more of your questions :)

When is it scheduled to open (the store)?
Right now we're looking at July or August...

What's your favorite type of candy?
Sour Patch Kids

What was the point you decided to quit your job and work full time at threadless?
It was at the point where, combined with our freelance web development income, we could start taking a salary and still have enough money left over to continue printing more shirts.

What has been your favorite threadless shirt that has ever gone through threadless?
My real favorite changes every other week because I'm always falling in love with new stuff. But my all time favorite standby I think is probably My Little Pony by Lobstre.

How are those custom shirts coming along?
We'll post a blog about it later today. The short version is that everything is in place and going smoothly it's just taking a lot longer than we expected. We have changed the cut a substantial amount from the I Heart Threadless tee based on all the feedback we received and are super happy with it right now.
wullagaru
   wullagaru on Jun 06 '07 at 9:33am
high five fr sour pathc kids
pickledbib
pickledbib on Jun 06 '07 at 9:43am
will you be looking to opening community centres worlwide?... or are you happy with just centres in Chicago and the US?
Stevethegreat
Stevethegreat on Jun 06 '07 at 9:49am
o_O
Stevethegreat
Stevethegreat on Jun 06 '07 at 9:49am
can I have some autographed undies?
wotto
   wotto on Jun 06 '07 at 9:51am
what was the first tshirt printed from ur first ever competition?

great blog btw.

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First of all, thanks for using Threadless! I spent many long, sleepless nights building this website! Shondi, my wife, is the best! Right now she is smiling like a little frog.

We live in Chicago and have 2 dogs, Norman and Sophie. We work together for skinnyCorp, a company Jacob and I started back in late 2000 along with this very site you're on right now, Threadless!

Since then, we've built all kinds of neat community driven websites and absolutely love doing it. Hoorah!