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Hey Sloganeers! We wanted to share some big news with you about slogans!

We redesigned the slogan submission process a few months ago with the hopes that quality slogans would be easier for us to find and print. Unfortunately, this hasn't really been the case. The biggest problem we've faced in printing type tees is the design process... who designs it, how the design effects the slogan's meaning, how the whole package works as a tee.

Meanwhile, the 3 Words or Less challenge was a great success. We found lots of amazing slogans that were not only clever, but were beautifully designed and varied greatly in their style, which is something that's harder for us to achieve when only a couple of designers are creating type tees from slogans.

Here's what's going to happen:

We're going to integrate slogans with all of the designs available for scoring. The current slogan submission and voting process will end, and we'll accept slogans as type-based designs much like the awesome designs that you saw in the 3 Words or Less challenge.

At the same time we're going to be officially accepting collaborations during the submission process. One person will submit the design, but all the collaborators will be shown on the sub and it will appear on all their profiles. And best of all the $ will be split between the collaborators. That means if a designer and sloganeer team up the sloganeer will now will now earn $1000 instead of $500! The designer will also earn $1000 for creating the design, much like the way design collaborations work now. Best of all, when this change happens the sloganeer will achieve alumni status! We'll also be extending alumni status to all past printed sloganeers. Congratulations to all sloganeers that have been printed!

Most importantly, this is going to give type-based designs more prominence in the pool of potential designs, and that's bound to increase the number of type-based designs that get printed.

We hope that you're all as excited about these developments as we are!

119 Comments

nickv47
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nickv47
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 16:38:56

win win. nice work.

rossmat8
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rossmat8
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 16:50:47

So I have to learn to design now?

reags
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reags
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 17:00:34

Sounds like a neat way to encourage typography!

nintechno
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nintechno
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 17:02:27

This is going to weed out a lot of people.

When a winner a type-tee is selected, you could email the sloganeer to help with the colaboration process. Just an idea.

nintechno
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nintechno
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 17:07:23

"When a slogan is selected"

Also, will we still have a slogan page? Will we be able to look through all of the slogans we've previously submitted?

[+duracell-]
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[+duracell-]
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 17:11:27

wait a minute, im confused

is a non-collab type tee now worth $2000?
will both collaborators on regular prints get credited and have prize money split?

please advise

jess4002
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jess4002
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 17:14:54

whoa! very nice update, threadless! hmm. so does this mean that we can only submit slogans as a design?

We'll also be extending alumni status to all past printed sloganeers. Congratulations to all sloganeers that have been printed!

sweet! i know there's been debates about this in the forums.

reags
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reags
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 18:37:35

One person will submit the design, but all the collaborators will be shown on the sub and it will appear on all their profiles.

We've still got unresolved issues with this on regular designs...does that mean everything will finally be fixed and both collaborators will get design thumbnails on their respective profiles (including 12 Club)?

Jake Friedman
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Jake Friedman
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 18:46:18

Let's see what Nestor thinks...

d3d
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d3d
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 18:50:24

sounds like awesome news to me. i look forward to collaborating on a few.

ivanrodero
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ivanrodero
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 20:44:51

This:

Jake Friedman on Sep 7, 2011 at 18:46:18
Let's see what Nestor thinks...


And this:

d3d on Sep 7, 2011 at 18:50:24
sounds like awesome news to me.
i look forward to collaborating on a few.


SuperRyan
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SuperRyan
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 20:59:07

Now that I will get a shield people will respect me! :^D


Hopefully :^(

Given how typetees has been for - I don't even remember how long (got to be over a year, right?) - this is the best for what it is. Better print chances and autonomy are good things plus dat cash.

Retroludo
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Retroludo
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 21:05:05

Not really sure how I feel about this. To be honest, I found it difficult to find designers who wanted to collab on a type based design when there was the 3 Words or Less Challenge. I know some people found multiple designers but I worry about the challenges a slogan person who isn't as well known in the community would have finding someone who wanted to work on a slogan with them. I had the same reaction as Ross when I saw this, and I'm curious to see how the rest of the slogan community will react to the upcoming changes.

skaw
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skaw
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 21:08:05

yep duracell, a non-collab type tee would be worth $2k. and the new collaboration feature would also work for non-type related collabs. so if you wanna collab on a design we'll automatically split the prize and give both creators credit everywhere.

and yea jess, they must be submitted fully designed.

reags - we should also be able to address past collabs, setting them up legit... i think, need to verify though.

Retroludo
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Retroludo
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 21:15:10

Another thought on this, what's to become of our best/high scoring slogans that we've already submitted?

d3d
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d3d
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 21:16:39

i guess those are your top contenders to be turned into collabs, right?

soloyo
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soloyo
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 21:39:02

Jake Friedmandate on Sep 7, 2011time at 18:46:18 Let's see what Nestor thinks...

authorrossmat8date on Sep 7, 2011time at 16:50:47 So I have to learn to design now?

authorRetroludodate on Sep 7, 2011time at 21:05:05 Not really sure how I feel about this. To be honest, I found it difficult to find designers who wanted to collab on a type based design when there was the 3 Words or Less Challenge


I have submitted some of my slogans as designs before with the help of some amazing illustrators, NOTHING came out them, and like retroludo said, how about those not lucky enough to find an artist willing to collab?

Why not choose a few slogans a month ( 10 maybe ) and give those lucky enough to be chosen the chance to find a partner to collab and then submit it as a design?

Really makes me wonder if you guys even paid any attention to our previous suggestions and ideas????


reags
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reags
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 21:47:18

reags - we should also be able to address past collabs, setting them up legit... i think, need to verify though.

That would be most excellent if it were possible as something so small like a thumbnail to show recognition does mean a lot (to some of us anyway) :)

Bio-bot 9000
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Bio-bot 9000
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 21:48:50

Slogans are dead. Long live slogans.


Artists, consider me open for slogaborations*.


(Slogan + collaboration = slogaboration)

Bio-bot 9000
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Bio-bot 9000
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 21:51:25

oh yeah, will we still have a slogan page? Should we archive all of our slogans to preserve them from the fiery flames of oblivion?.

murraymullet
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murraymullet
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 21:56:26

I totally respect words.


*scrolls to the bottom without reading comments and half the blog entry to leave comment*

ivejustquitsmoking
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ivejustquitsmoking
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 22:09:49

^thanks Sam I just archived my slogan page now

I think slogans will be taken to a different dimension, a lot of slogans (that are actually clever) work as just words only but I think graphically the shorter the better. So not sure how that would play out.

It's really going to be a challenge to get words into designs, I feel like it's a whole different category lol. But, looking at how Moss did his select series I'm pretty amazed of the possibilities

anyway, congrats to all new shielded sloganeers. Hopefully the alumni section will be more active haha

FRICKINAWESOME
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FRICKINAWESOME
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 22:19:28

I find this a very cool prospect, and also a sad one if the regular way one submits slogans is now going defunct. And like others have mentioned so far, will our previous collection of slogans still remain so we can reference them for future collaborations with others?

I know this is a better model for the uphill battle Threadless has to face because of an overwhelming influx of slogans even with limiting them to one per day, but I still think a secondary way slogans could survive on this site and give sloganeers more options on how the type tee is designed and, like Erin/Retroludo touched upon, be a way for newcomers on this site who aren't very good at networking and finding an illustrator to collaborate with.

Fatheed suggested a really superb way to accomplish this a while back which could be expanded on, where there would be a simple design editor in place of the slogan submission section, where you could choose from a variety of fonts, place your slogan anywhere you want on the front/back of the shirt, show which words use glow or uv ink, etc etc. Still limit the amount of slogans you can produce to one per day, but going about it like this where a sloganeer could still relatively reproduce a more accurate and detailed version of their vision for a type tee without having to depend on a collaboration would cut down significantly on the amount of less-than-stellar submissions because it would require a little more effort than just "type and click enter".

Even if something like this was implemented and could be stored on a person's profile as examples for artists to look at and see if they want to turn the sample type tee into a well-illustrated version would be an improvement for a vast majority of lesser participating slogan folk.

Probably too late as Threadless seems to have made the final decision on this, but I would love for this kind of slogan solution to be considered if in a year or so the new way to produce type tees is found too constraining.

Having said all that, it's very awesome that Threadless is giving so many props to the slogan community after all these years of giving them the red-headed stepchild to design treatment, haha. A thousand dollars and retroactive alumni status is a really awesome upgrade in pay for a sloganeers efforts, great move Threadless! And anything that will encourage sloganeers and artists to work closer together is always a winning scenario, as well as giving slogan writers A LOT more exposure and more input into how the type will look.

Oh man, and everyone thought there were too many designs up now, haha, can't wait till there's 1500+ designs up for scoring at a time on a regular basis! *does click finger strengthening exercises*

FRICKINAWESOME
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FRICKINAWESOME
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 22:24:19

I think slogans will be taken to a different dimension, a lot of slogans (that are actually clever) work as just words only but I think graphically the shorter the better.

This is kind of what I'm afraid of and what I thought the 3 words or less challenge hinted at. 65 characters is constraining enough, and now I think Threadless is going to push for shorter and shorter slogans so it's more typogrpahy instead of all the amazing kinds of jokes, setups etc a slogan is capable of when it's looked at as a full sentence of typo tomfoolery.

queenmob
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queenmob
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 22:24:32

I am looking forward to doing at least one slogan collab :-)
Not good at type stuff, but curious to try.

soloyo
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soloyo
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 22:27:36

FA you are missing the point dude!!!!! I might be the second most prolific collab sloganeers after you and I don't come anywhere near your many collabs a month, how can any other sloganeer find a partner to collab with? when even I have many problems finding them???? especially now that threadless basically told us we are not wanted and our work is not important unless is in the form of a design!!!!!!!!!

dandingeroz
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dandingeroz
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 22:41:19

wow!!!!!!

ivejustquitsmoking
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ivejustquitsmoking
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 22:42:35

Maybe the blogs will be more alive ? hate logging in and seeing posts/comments that was 4 hours ago in the first page lol

This move will def challenge people to come up with something really clever and not just dump a few phrases in their slogans page day in/day out. It's a more proactive way to getting your slogans out there..

Maybe the typetee sales don't really fly, Idunno, but I acknowledge Threadless for re-thinking the situation and making the experience more inclusive to all members (by making it a collaboration).

@soloyo, I think you're doing pretty well with the collab thing, man

FRICKINAWESOME
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FRICKINAWESOME
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 22:47:49

That's the spirit A-M!

Nestor, I don't think i missed the point my man, I mentioned in my mile of text that it will be hard for newcomers to find artists to work with, and then took another whole paragraph detailing a system I think would work better for those newcomers or at least be something implemented side by side with the new way Threadless will be dealing with slogan collaborations so people who can't find collabers still have a shot at creating something typographically complete.

I agree with you man, I think it's lame we can't just concentrate on making amazing slogans and now have to rely on others for submitting a slogan (unless we all get amazing at typogrpahy...I might give it a try on some of my more shorter slogans :)....but I think you might be getting a wee bit too cynical on this process for your own good.

Plus with the new payout of more money and (like queenmob just mentioned) artist interest in trying out typographic experiments, I think a bunch of artists will take chances on doing a type tee collab.

Marco, most of the people who submit slogans and promote them on the blogs aren't the kinds of people who just put random movie quotes as their own already, so I don't think that's going to push people any more than they are already pushing themselves...

martiandrivein
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martiandrivein
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 22:52:08

I know I'm not going to make any friends by posting this, but someone has to play devil's advocate...

I'm glad this is the way that slogans are going. Maybe for once, maybe it will convince people to pick up a pencil and try their own hand at designing, instead of posting a "collab with me" blog and relying on others to do the work. I feel like that attitude has bread throughout the community, especially on the sloganeers side. It's easy to type in words to a box, but designing stuff takes way more effort.

Hopefully those willing to collab with sloganeers encourage the sloganeers to try something new and push them to achieve great things. I hate seeing great potential go to waste.

On the flip side, prepare yourselves for the HUGE influx of "Vote on my slogan design collab" blogs and spamming.

Krimson
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Krimson
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 22:53:39

I haven't felt a big pull to contribute to the slogan world in a while, and this seems like it is worth a shot.

Plus I get to be an alumni now? sweet!

martiandrivein
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martiandrivein
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 22:57:08

I think what I'm most happy about is that Type can finally become a common element for Threadless designs. They got pooped on in voting all too often.

d3d
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d3d
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 23:02:54

i think in a lot of cases type still will get pooped on for the same reason it always did. if it doesn't enhance the design people will still demand it's removal. this just means in some cases it'll be the focus of the design rather than an extraneous element.

FRICKINAWESOME
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FRICKINAWESOME
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 23:10:19

Rolf, that will always be your and many others opinion, that doing the actual illustration and final design work is worth so much more than people who prefer to work with illustrators and help shape a creation from a different avenue than you.

That's the environment you are in, a graphic design mindset, and it's not the way everyone chooses to channel their creativity. There's room for so many other kinds of creativity on this site and ways to work together and combine each other's strengths, and surpass just what is the norm or what the way to create designs etc was from the initial way people submitted work to Threadless.

It strikes me as a very narrow-minded way to look at the talent pool on Threadless, and borderline ridiculous the way you keep insinuating people who create this way are worth less and are somehow "lazy".

But we'll never agree on this, and there's no need to really....that's my point, there's room for all of it here :)

I'm aware that your comment wasn't directed specifically at me, and if this sounds defensive or stand-off-ish, it's not meant to...I'm well beyond that on this topic, lol.

soloyo
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soloyo
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 23:13:21

Well Mr Fa I must have read your comment wrong or you forgot an "not" somewhere in there, either way I though you mean the contrary of what you just wrote?!

I am not getting cynical, i have been cynical but it has been due to the type tee situation.

What pisses me off is the idea of " it's easy to type in words to a box" without mentioning that some of those Words to a box are actually really clever, granted there is a lot of garbage going around on the slogan sub page but the same can be said about the design subs, not all of them are $5 material and that doesn't take any credit away from the ones that are.

rossmat8
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rossmat8
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 23:13:27

Rolf I get what you're saying, and I think it will be nice for some people to try their hand at designing. But having said that I've tried drawing many many times and it is something I am not good at. Very few people want to wear my words on their chest, but if it was my art even fewer people would be interested.

soloyo
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soloyo
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 23:22:27

ivejustquitsmokingdate on Sep 7, 2011time at 22:42:35

@soloyo, I think you're doing pretty well with the collab thing, man

Thanks dude, I am doing OK with my collabs ( at least in number of subs if not prints ) but I was referring to the other sloganeers not to myself or FA, many of them could not find a partner for the 3 words or less competition, they are the ones am worry about! how are they supposed to find a partner to illustrated their slogans?

FRICKINAWESOME
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FRICKINAWESOME
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on Sep 7, 2011
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at 23:50:58

What pisses me off is the idea of " it's easy to type in words to a box" without mentioning that some of those Words to a box are actually really clever, granted there is a lot of garbage going around on the slogan sub page but the same can be said about the design subs, not all of them are $5 material and that doesn't take any credit away from the ones that are.

Yeah, I hear you on these kinds of statements duder. Some people on here focus their talents on words, some on illustration, some on graphic design, some on conceptual storytelling etc etc etc....why say what is and isn't "a waste of talent" and try to discredit the people that work insanely hard on the avenues they choose to express themselves on this site?

Mountain Gnome
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Mountain Gnome
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 02:29:56

Nice developments, excited to see where this goes...

Braniel
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Braniel
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 02:44:53

That sounds awesome! :D I'll try designing some of my present slogans that are at above %50 and %70 approval rating:D) so much fun. nice change!

jublin
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jublin
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 03:05:13

I haven't read a lot of the comments, but i don't see how there can be any anger towards this at all. Threadless started as a design competition first and foremost and was able to expand and include slogans and type tees. Originally it started as OMG, a completely separate site. They've been experimenting and changing this over the years to see how to best include type tees and slogan submissions into the threadless experience. If things aren't working, then they're not working. Time to change things up.


Ragnampiza
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Ragnampiza
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 05:23:19

It sounds like a great news to me 'cause i want to improve some styles in typography and this is the best way to do that. I totally want to collaborate with some sloganeers sometime, if any interested. I think this is also a great opportunity for sloganeers, too, because now they also can figure out how their slogans are going to be developed in a design.
I suggest that there could be a page where all (sloganeers+designers who want to collab) are listed, providing an easier way for collaborations, but this just an idea...

Totally looking forward for some type designs!

Shadyjibes
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Shadyjibes
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 05:49:32

the 3 words or less challenge was a great experience for me and i'd be very happy to see something like that become a permanent feature on threadless. this is going to be very exciting!!!!!!!!!!!

mullmuggins
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mullmuggins
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 08:34:15

I think Jublin has hit the nail on the head with his comment.

skaw
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skaw
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 08:37:49

i'm excited to see other uses of the collaboration feature as well. skill-set mashups.

Boycey
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Boycey
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 08:46:12

I would be up for doing some collabs, if anybody was interested.

I think hand drawn type often works best, but are there any guidelines to using ready made fonts?

Maltzmania
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Maltzmania
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 08:49:54

Interesting initiative. Text people we gotta step up our game!

Boycey
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Boycey
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 08:52:55

...also, if any of my fave designers would like to illustrate one of my slogans, I would really like that.

Adhesive Hippo
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Adhesive Hippo
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 10:12:52

I'm very interested in the collaboration feature, I think it's great that both artists will have the sub on their page and whatnot, but I'm wondering how exactly that works? On the submission page there's no place to input, say, the user ID# or url of the other collaborator. So does that mean that it will be added manually during the approval process, or am I reading this wrong?

As for the new slogan process, I think it's a great process. People will just have to realize that (I'm assuming) very little slogans will get a 3 and thus the slogan designs will essentially be on their own scale. I know Nestor has subbed some of his as regular designs, and while in a straight comparison of scores they may not seem to match up, you have to realize that it needs to be "graded on a curve" per se. I think this new process will also help weed out the bad slogans. Coming up with a slogan a day is a great exercise, but not all of them have great potential to print. I come up with a lot of ideas, and if I email one or two people and neither of them like it, I either need to ditch it or make it better. I don't think there will be a huge problem for Nestor or FA to find a person to illustrate their slogans if they need to.

gumbolimbo
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gumbolimbo
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 10:25:02

That's great. I've always been in favour of seeing good type designs in the threadless catalogue, and perhaps this is the way to do it.
Personally I'd say the split of the prize money is something between designer and sloganeer rather than Threadless' decision, but I presume Threadless is open to different ways of splitting prize money in case collaboteers ask?

ivejustquitsmoking
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ivejustquitsmoking
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 10:48:03

^I see gumbo hitting her 20 target mark with this development :)

PuppetMeat
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PuppetMeat
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 11:31:12

I agree with jubs. I'm totally cool with this. We had a great privilege of being able to submit slogans with great ease, and get paid well for not doing a lot of work. I'm super lucky I was able to get in on the end of the wave to type tees and get some prints out of it. This sounds like a good development and a challenge. Hopefully when I have more time, I can score another print somehow.

It would be nice to have our lists of slogans still visible somehow, in case someone wants to design one and can just look through to find something they like. Other than that, cool beans.

ISABOA
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ISABOA
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 15:45:42

THIS IS A REALLY SMART MOVE

as a person who has not even participated in the last "new" slogan system - I think this levels the playing field for sloganeers as well. Instead of being one in a million submissions (as is the case with previous slogan subs) there is the necessity to put more effort than typing and pressing submit. It will weed out most of those slogan subs which were not worth the little white box they were typed into.

tiggyvg
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tiggyvg
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 17:09:50

im scared yet intreaged

tiggyvg
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tiggyvg
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 17:14:16

this idea sound great but can we still keep our little slogan pages as a remembrance? P.S anyone wana collab?

Dexter Spandex
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Dexter Spandex
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 17:21:40

holy moly

Drewdle
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Drewdle
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on Sep 8, 2011
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at 21:38:03

tl;dr

anyone wanna collab? :p

thirteendaisies
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thirteendaisies
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on Sep 9, 2011
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at 10:41:26

Personally I'm excited about the integration. And as in the 60's I know there will be a period of struggle to adjust. (For both sloganeers and designers.) But overall I think it's going to be for the best. I'm excited that several people already have expressed an interest in collaboration.

I am definitely going to miss the voting forum. I don't suppose there's any way to keep it in some shape or form. While it didn't seem to work as a means for Threadless to choose slogans to print, I found it to be a great way to figure out which of my slogans were good.

Bio-bot 9000
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Bio-bot 9000
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on Sep 9, 2011
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at 22:30:35

I'm curious as to how New Type subs will go. Will there be a new ongoing Slogan Design challenge, akin to the Patterns? Or will they just be subbed regularly? In either case, I predict a glut of low quality , low scoring subs, based on the some of what I saw from the 3 Words or Less comp.

bygrinstow
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bygrinstow
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on Sep 9, 2011
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at 22:53:12

The really important question is: How many times a day will subs like "I (heart) boobs" and "I'm so ninja" get past review?

I was almost not interested in submitting more slogans, but this changes the whole game in a great way.

And like others, I want to know if my past slogans are going to vanish, or if I should start archiving them in some way...

d3d
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d3d
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on Sep 9, 2011
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at 23:58:40

Instead of being one in a million submissions (as is the case with previous slogan subs) there is the necessity to put more effort than typing and pressing submit. It will weed out most of those slogan subs which were not worth the little white box they were typed into.
that

rossmat8
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rossmat8
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on Sep 10, 2011
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at 01:19:31

Even as someone who loves slogans I have to agree there are way too many terrible ones. My idea would be to have the slogan voting page stay so we can still get a feeling percentage wise of how people feel about them before trying to find a designer to do it, or designing it ourselves. It would basically be like the critique section is now.

thirteendaisies
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thirteendaisies
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on Sep 10, 2011
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at 17:10:08

Yes, that's what I was talking about rossmat. I would definitely like to see something like that. With the monetary incentive gone a lot fewer people would be tempted to type in the stupidest slogans ever with the hope (be it ever so small) it will win them $500 dollars. Which would make it a more pleasant place to visit.

Nice.s.t.e.e.
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Nice.s.t.e.e.
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on Sep 10, 2011
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at 19:35:07

This was the only evolution slogans could take. Anything else would be inefficient and end in a version of what threadless already has now. Typography has always been at this end of the two extremes whether it was realized or not.
Threadless could not find a good balance between the two extremes so they're choosing the design focused extreme. Sloganeers are gonna have to step their game up or get left behind. It's the nature of competition. Besides in these days and times no one can really get anywhere or reach their full potential without diversifying.
It was even discussed at the reunion by those Minnesota guys and I know some of you were there listening. FA and the other popular slogan shooters don't limit themselves and they weren't always so collab or design-ready either.
By wanting them to keep the submission process like it is (type words in box) it seems as if its limiting factor is welcomed. No one is saying you have to learn how to illustrate/design/whatever. But you can't be mad if you get left behind because the majority illustration focused design community is pushing for their word-based submissions to be just a tad more typographic and you don't want to change.
Design is the cornerstone of their business. The way I see it, there are few choices: evolve, fall by the wayside, or find a new community less inclined to the design and typographic portion of creativity because it looks like the creativity of simply being clever with words isn't going to cut it anymore here. Diversify or die

Bio-bot 9000
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Bio-bot 9000
date
on Sep 14, 2011
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at 21:06:47

So when will this be happening? Nowish?

Disgruntled_Pacifist
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Disgruntled_Pacifist
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on Sep 15, 2011
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at 15:32:20

If this happens I think it will be time for me to say good-bye. As many of my friends have seen I haven't been involved with threadless much lately as my designs that I attempt bomb, collabs are very rare and usually also bomb and my hundreds of slogans I have submitted have not resulted in anything worth mentioning. Going to this system would cause me to have to:
A: Design my own slogans (which has not had good results)
B: Find a collaborator (Which I have had no luck with)
C: Give up.
Sorry threadless, I will keep checking in on the progress of what you will do but it looks like you are leaning towards fully designed slogans which basically excludes many of us wordsmiths.

soloyo
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soloyo
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on Sep 15, 2011
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at 15:38:42

...............................................................................................................

rhythmdev9
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rhythmdev9
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on Sep 15, 2011
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at 15:48:01

psst....

bygrinstow
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bygrinstow
date
on Sep 19, 2011
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at 10:05:59

Since the system is completely changing, would it be possible to get a button that would generate a pdf of all our submissions (not just the ones visible on our profile, but everything submitted) in one document?

I understand if that's so low a priority that it's not on the list...

mitchellp
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mitchellp
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on Sep 19, 2011
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at 19:49:02

fuck

Disgruntled_Pacifist
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Disgruntled_Pacifist
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on Sep 21, 2011
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at 13:51:17

↑ Love your quick summary of the situation Pete!

Brightwood
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Brightwood
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on Sep 22, 2011
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at 09:54:51

I have had funny moments in the past. My slogans are up for grabs if anyone feels inspired. Just let me know.

soloyo
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soloyo
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on Sep 22, 2011
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at 09:58:50

date on Sep 19, 2011 time at 19:49:02 fuck

author Disgruntled_Pacifist date on Sep 21, 2011 time at 13:51:17 ↑ Love your quick summary of the situation Pete!

LOL

Boycey
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Boycey
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on Sep 23, 2011
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at 09:17:46

Will there be a Loves slogan comp?

nintechno
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nintechno
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on Sep 27, 2011
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at 11:46:46

Updates?

Tikimasters
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Tikimasters
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on Sep 27, 2011
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at 17:27:30

Whoa, just now read this. I'm in trouble I suppose.

nintechno
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nintechno
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on Oct 3, 2011
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at 11:47:01

Updates?

Brightwood
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Brightwood
date
on Oct 6, 2011
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at 13:25:27

'Sup-date?

Bio-bot 9000
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Bio-bot 9000
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on Oct 11, 2011
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at 19:42:28

"At the same time we're going to be officially accepting collaborations during the submission process. One person will submit the design, but all the collaborators will be shown on the sub and it will appear on all their profiles. And best of all the $ will be split between the collaborators."

So does this mean that like when we submit a design, there will be a box to enter the collaborator's user-name? If so, would the feature be available for all collaborations, type-based or not?

Also, can't wait for this to happen.

Also, again, Threadless, what will become of our submitted slogan pages? If they are to go bye-bye, maybe a notification can be issued a month or so before the big delete. I already copied my slogans, but what about everyone else?

bygrinstow
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bygrinstow
date
on Oct 12, 2011
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at 11:11:48

I copied my slogans off a day or so before a hard drive crash. So, I still need to save mine...

Are strictly type-based submissions kosher now?

Bio-bot 9000
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Bio-bot 9000
date
on Nov 13, 2011
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at 20:44:39

Any updates? Time frame? Will there be a new formal submission process?

Jordski
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Jordski
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on Nov 15, 2011
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at 11:11:36

So.. a question... what about when you submit a slogan, that has already been submitted (yeh that has never happened to me either ;) Does this make that feature redundant, i.e. you can design a type-tee saying whatever the hell you want? Double-ups are just part of the fun?

I think it is an interesting development, i also think that some of the comments about a design being 'more work' than a slogan are naive at best. Just because you spend hours and hours on a design, does not make it more credible than a genuinely sharpwitted slogan. Both are different and we should embrace the expressiveness of both, rather than focusing on 'how long it took' someone to do etc.

What i do like about this though, is the fact that - as important as words are, the context of the words within design can heighten that importance. I.e. Design can make it resonate more succinctly with a viewer. Design IS undervalued in the world around us. Just ask 95% of people for a look at their business card. Or have a look at the amount of crowdsourcing going on. If Threadless forces us to push slogans that wee bit harder, to make them 'work', then personally, I'm all for it.

jess4002
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jess4002
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on Nov 16, 2011
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at 13:28:24

Bio-bot 9000 on Nov 13, 2011 at 20:44:39
Any updates? Time frame? Will there be a new formal submission process?

nintechno
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nintechno
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on Nov 22, 2011
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at 07:10:39

I'm starting not to care.

jess4002
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jess4002
date
on Nov 22, 2011
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at 14:35:19

i'm guessing this will start when threadless releases the new site?

Braniel
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Braniel
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on Nov 29, 2011
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at 19:21:21

hopefully this gets going soon - I'm still excited:)

Bio-bot 9000
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Bio-bot 9000
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on Jan 11, 2012
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at 18:32:12

when's this gonna happen?

jess4002
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jess4002
date
on Jan 16, 2012
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at 11:32:34

...

krokun
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krokun
date
on Jan 18, 2012
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at 15:35:58

? Whoa I certainly missed a lot!

soloyo
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soloyo
date
on Jan 18, 2012
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at 19:33:28

People, you must be patience; it's only been 133 days (and counting)

bygrinstow
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bygrinstow
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on Jan 19, 2012
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at 08:54:22

134

krokun
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krokun
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on Jan 19, 2012
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at 13:50:28

Don't forget us!!

rossmat8
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rossmat8
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on Jan 19, 2012
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at 23:43:44

I think it would be nice just to get rid of the slogan submission page for like a week and then bring it back. See if it weeds out some of the people who think it's a chance to get rich quick off of an Anchorman quote.

nintechno
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nintechno
date
on Jan 21, 2012
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at 10:51:00

Dear Threadless, before you announce something, make sure you're actually going to follow through with it. If this is not going to happen, let us know.

It's not hard.

soloyo
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soloyo
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on Jan 21, 2012
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at 11:36:45

Again, ( using my best sarcastic voice ) it's only been 136 days , patience, patience...

agrimony
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agrimony
date
on Jan 21, 2012
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at 11:58:09

im still waiting for that new site they promised...

taptaptap

krokun
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krokun
date
on Jan 22, 2012
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at 14:09:22

Hmmmmn....

rossmat8
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rossmat8
date
on Jan 22, 2012
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at 16:40:08

In good news I'm going to start signup for Sloganwars 3 this week!

FRICKINAWESOME
author
FRICKINAWESOME
date
on Jan 22, 2012
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at 17:06:36

I used to believe that threadless was merely delaying the inevitable re-launch and revitalization of the slogan program here, what with all the insanely talented slogan writers and how a well-designed slogan tee with a killer saying sells a ton of t-shirt product and is pretty cost prohibitive being you can make an awesome slogan tee in two colors plus the shirt.

But as my requests for changes have gone mostly unanswered and my attempts to help kick-start the program again seemed to be listened to and then not acted upon, I'm pretty much in the same boat as you guys now. I had faith in threadless and in what they had told me the slogan program was going to turn into with a ton of prints every month again, but either threadless has erased slogans from their business plan for the foreseeable future, or will indeed re-launch a slogan part of this site but is currently at the bottom of the list.

I mean, it's sad to me threadless has still never had an actual official slogan loves contest (based on purely slogans or as collabs through the main contest), they can say the Three words or less was a sloganeers contest, but it wasn't at all...Threadless has yet to fully embrace a contest based on funny sayings/sentence concepts and not just having words as window dressing for an illustrated graphic.

The thing is all Threadless has to do is to keep us updated on the situation and throw us a bone every once in a while updating us on the status (even if everything had to be dealyed because launching the new threadless website is most likely priority number ONE right now at Threadless HQ), and everyone here who is so dedicated to slogans and to Threadless would have been fine with it. But the silence has been deafening despite all our pleas, and has sucked away pretty much any energy to revamp and relaunch the Official Slogan Club as myself, Nestor, Sam, Ross, Nate and a couple others were planning to. What's the point of putting that much work into a side of threadless that is pretty much a hollow shell of what it once was, with no announcements in sight?

Oh, and i SINCERELY hope Threadless won't one day just up and dump the slogans that we all have saved without letting us know so we can cache them or print them out. There's too much slogan art held within all our profiles for that to be something we're ok with.

krokun
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krokun
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on Jan 22, 2012
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at 18:20:03

^ what he said.

skaw
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skaw
date
on Jan 22, 2012
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at 19:22:55

the update/plan in the original post here still stands and will be in place when the redesigned site launches. we can definitely make sure you can export all of the previous slogans on your account when the switch happens.

nintechno
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nintechno
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on Jan 22, 2012
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at 19:44:48

Thanks for the update, skaw.

FRICKINAWESOME
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FRICKINAWESOME
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on Jan 22, 2012
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at 20:13:31

As Nate said, thanks for the update Jake, all of what I stated is out of frustration for the slogan community feeling they are being swept aside because there has been no update on the situation in a long long while. Appreciate it!

skaw
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skaw
date
on Jan 22, 2012
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at 20:19:21

yea i hear ya, i'm equally frustrated we haven't been able to launch the redesign yet :(

krokun
author
krokun
date
on Jan 23, 2012
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at 14:25:51

Whoo! I'm getting excited all over again!

I appreciate that its much much better to take a longer time to get things right rather than rushing it out for the sake of change. Makes for a lot less problems later on :P

Chaymation
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Chaymation
date
on Jan 23, 2012
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at 14:39:57

Ah, I was going to ask about how the slogans on the subs page has a certain number of votes, but on your profile page it has more. But I guess if it's all being overhauled eventually then that explains it! Looking forward to the eventual changeover. Have any slogan Tees been printed in recent months, or are they all on hold until the relaunch?

I have a few currently submitted http://www.threadless.com/profile/245454/Chaymation/slogans but I have no idea how many votes to need to be considered for printing, and also what sort of percentage have to like it!

pochettejuliano
author
pochettejuliano
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on Feb 9, 2012
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at 00:57:59

Awesome! Too late?

Monkey X
author
Monkey X
date
on Feb 9, 2012
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at 10:30:15

This sounds supadupa interesting

jaywalkergraphics
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jaywalkergraphics
date
on Apr 21, 2012
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at 16:12:49

Sooo, did this already happen? I'm a little fuzzy.

rossmat8
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rossmat8
date
on Apr 21, 2012
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at 20:10:01

It hasn't happened yet.

soloyo
author
soloyo
date
on Apr 22, 2012
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at 10:25:48

It's never gonna happen

jaywalkergraphics
author
jaywalkergraphics
date
on Apr 22, 2012
time
at 11:07:15

:-(

But if it does, does this mean I would be . . . an aluminum, or uh, luminary, er, alumnus eye?

rossmat8
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rossmat8
date
on Apr 22, 2012
time
at 15:10:55

Yeah they said at the meetup last year everyone that had a slogan printed would become an alumnus but then I guess they thought it would be too much work so they didn't do it.

krokun
author
krokun
date
on Apr 22, 2012
time
at 16:25:37

I think its still in the pipeline but just lower down the list of priorities... Or something

jaywalkergraphics
author
jaywalkergraphics
date
on Apr 22, 2012
time
at 20:45:51

Whoa, Jesse! Long time, no hear from!

Also, I will choose to be the hopeless optimist that I am and say, "One day, my prints will come."

krokun
author
krokun
date
on Apr 23, 2012
time
at 23:08:54

Hey Jay! I'm sure your prince is just around the corner.

reags
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reags
date
on Apr 23, 2012
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at 23:17:52

I reckon all this will probably happen (along with all other issues such as missing print thumbnails from collabs) with the new site launch...well, here's to hoping.

krokun
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krokun
date
on May 16, 2012
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at 19:44:34

So far all that has happened is they got rid of slogans, now I am waiting for all of the other amazing stuff to happen.

mitchellp
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mitchellp
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on May 17, 2012
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at 08:11:59

Don't worry everything is gonna be amazing. And by amazing, we mean we're gonna delete slogans from our site. Yay! You're SO right. Threadless is much better now. *COUGH* jerks *COUGH*