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  Feb 18 '08 by Threadless        164 Comments        Watch this      Share:  Share on facebook    Share on delicious    Share on digg    Share on MySpace    Tweet this    Stumble this    Share this on Kaboodle   
Hey there, buck-a-roos! We've got some exciting news! The wait is finally over, and we're now printing new designs EXCLUSIVELY on our own brand of tees! This news comes with the news of new sizes, new colors, and new prices! Let's jump right in!

NEW SIZES & COLORS!
We're now offering FOUR new sizes for all of the Threadless brand tees: XS in guys and girly tees, 2XL in girly tees, and 3XL in guys tees! Oh yeah! We'll also be rolling out new colors over the next few months, which are already available in the submission template for all the designers to jam on! Also, now that we're using our own tees, take a peek at our brand-spankin' new size chart page to see how this may or may not affect your size! www.threadless.com/sizechart


NEW PRICING STRUCTURE!
As of today, prices will be dependent on what's on the tee, starting at $15! As seen on each new product page, the printing and decoration techniques and processes are now detailed to help illustrate how price is determined. This means that Selects will not automatically be $25 and the regular tees will not automatically be $15 and $17. And now the ladies won't have to feel slighted either! Guys and girly tees are now equally priced!

All of the above tee changes apply ONLY to the new Threadless brand tees, which we are now using exclusively for new designs! As always, we'd love to hear your thoughts and concerns on all of these new changes.

Mikko Terva
   Mikko Terva on Feb 18 '08 at 10:45am
yay!
shirtflirt
shirtflirt on Feb 18 '08 at 10:46am
inflation
passname
passname on Feb 18 '08 at 10:46am
hey thats awesome bout exclusive threadless shirts, but it would be cool if you guys could keep prices low :P i understand your a company that needs to make a profit but its just that after shipping and tax 15 makes it reasonable for us canadians to buy. hope u consider. but keep up the great shirts!
iFDL
   iFDL on Feb 18 '08 at 10:49am
the prices all start at $15 and go up from there...
danrule
   danrule on Feb 18 '08 at 10:51am
hey sweet, the ketchup/mustard select is cheaper now. This structure makes more sense, and now I will actually buy regular prints now that they're on the custom tees.
chelly
chelly on Feb 18 '08 at 10:52am
i'll be watching the blogs to see how the new sizes fit after washing
SoulfumeInc
SoulfumeInc on Feb 18 '08 at 10:52am
i fully understand the new pricing. We do the same thing at the company I work for... But then no one ever wants specialty inks.

want glitter on your shirt? pay up bitch.

:)
chelly
chelly on Feb 18 '08 at 10:53am
btw the new sizing is a great step, thanks!
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Feb 18 '08 at 10:53am
I think the prices seem very fair... It would be really cool if you could let us know on the product pages why the specific shirt is more expensive, like with specialty inks, oversize print, 8 inks, or whatnot.
ir0cko
   ir0cko on Feb 18 '08 at 10:54am
hooray! i'm so glad about new sizes
Rachel Ray Gun
   Rachel Ray Gun on Feb 18 '08 at 10:55am
shakethesheets, there will be explanation on every product page, it just takes some time to go through all the old shirts and list the inks.

for instance, check out this one: http://www.threadless.com/product/1152/Magic_Paintbrush

you can see it right under the product photo! :)
skaw
   skaw on Feb 18 '08 at 10:59am
also keep in mind that the quality fabric, etc of our new cut is far superior to FOTL and therefore it costs us a bit more than FOTL did - more along the lines of AA pricing. by still starting the pricing at $15 and working up from there based on print techniques and such we've reached a pretty solid compromise in keeping our pricing reasonable and improving the quality of our products.
Melikochan
Melikochan on Feb 18 '08 at 10:59am
The girly 2XL tees are STILL smaller than guy's medium! What the hell!
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Feb 18 '08 at 11:00am
Thanks Rachel!
Mikko Terva
   Mikko Terva on Feb 18 '08 at 11:01am
I'll happily pay a bit extra for the better fit.
whisper in water
whisper in water on Feb 18 '08 at 11:07am
I'll happily pay a bit extra for the better fit.

DITTO.

I'm really happy about all this :)
Torakamikaze
   Torakamikaze on Feb 18 '08 at 11:07am
the new tees are so ridiculously better than FOTL... it's definitely worth it
adam antium
   adam antium on Feb 18 '08 at 11:08am
it's ok to me :)
pyr4lis
pyr4lis on Feb 18 '08 at 11:10am
Thanks for the update. I love almost all of this weeks prints, and the pricing doesn't bother me (now I just need to find another freelance job so I can buy them hehe)

My only wierdness is on the sizes.. I wore AA Girly Mediums and ordered a Threadless Girls Medium and it was too small.. I ordered a Threadless Girls Large and that fit like my AA Mediums... so I dunno if I got a freak run or if the threadless sizes actually run a full size smaller than the AA's so I will always have to order a size up??
Manos
   Manos on Feb 18 '08 at 11:11am
bog off FOTL!!!
squeegebeckenheim
squeegebeckenheim on Feb 18 '08 at 11:13am
Are the printed tags still printed inside the back of the neck? You guys had said something about putting them on the inside of the bottom hem eventually.
Fermata
Fermata on Feb 18 '08 at 11:14am
Maybe if there are new colors you guys will actually start using good colors. :O
telaine
telaine on Feb 18 '08 at 11:17am
the tags we saw were at the back of the neck
Prexis
Prexis on Feb 18 '08 at 11:18am
what are the new colours?
ilovedoodle
   ilovedoodle on Feb 18 '08 at 11:20am
looking forward to threadless's brand tee
chelly
chelly on Feb 18 '08 at 11:49am
there are still a lot of ppl who would like to know more about where the new shirts are made.

are the hoodies the same brand?
chelly
chelly on Feb 18 '08 at 11:50am
minus the hoodies question, as i apparently can't read.
kennybanzai
   kennybanzai on Feb 18 '08 at 11:53am
sounds good!
madruga
madruga on Feb 18 '08 at 12:04pm
I really don't appreciate paying more for the shirts, but it's quite obvious that some printings are more pricey.
Let's see about the new fabric... I was quite disappointed with the quality when I first saw it

Just hope will be worth the extra bucks.
macmankev
macmankev on Feb 18 '08 at 1:06pm
How are those famous $10 sales going to work now?
viralVISUAL
   viralVISUAL on Feb 18 '08 at 1:11pm
Eh... price thing bothers me. $15 was just right, and I could always count on it being $15. I understand why that's gotta change and all, and it's a perfectly good reason. But it's still pretty disappointing.

Just don't turn into DBH.
FRICKINAWESOME
   FRICKINAWESOME on Feb 18 '08 at 1:15pm
It's ridiculous to expect Threadless ALWAYS having their shirts as 15 bucks. It just doesn't make economic sense anymore with being printed on softer, better quality shirts and all the possible inks that each shirt might employ. As long as the princes don't soar, I'm okay with it, and so far the prices haven't done much but trickled up a few dollars. But it's not like we can't see where the extra money is going, Things change, and as long as things change and there is a good reason for it, im cool with it. the ten dollar sale is gonna be a bit more complex tho.

As for the DBH thing, I just hope Threadless doesn't turn into ALL artsy tees and disses its clever ones. I like the artsy ones, I live for the clever ones.
sonmi
   sonmi on Feb 18 '08 at 1:20pm
yay!
igo2cairo
   igo2cairo on Feb 18 '08 at 1:26pm
Oh man, it's about time! Thank you so much, that's all I can say. The few extra dollars is well worth it in my opinion. To me the pricing strategy is fair and makes perfect sense. I'll be buying more designs I love, knowing they'll be printed on a quality tee, instead of FOTL tees which are approaching the consistency of burlap and have ruined many a good design. Don't listen to the people whining about the prices, this is a big step in the right direction.
wotto
   wotto on Feb 18 '08 at 1:26pm
I think the price increase is fair enough if it means the tees are better.

The designs already prices before this shouldnt have been changed tho.

either way good work threadless.
littlem
littlem on Feb 18 '08 at 1:29pm
fabulous!!!!!!!
viralVISUAL
   viralVISUAL on Feb 18 '08 at 1:31pm
wotto on Feb 18 '08 at 1:26pm
I think the price increase is fair enough if it means the tees are better.

The designs already prices before this shouldnt have been changed tho.

Agreed.
lenabean
lenabean on Feb 18 '08 at 1:32pm
omg xs in guys will have me buying tees again...
amaliaslash
amaliaslash on Feb 18 '08 at 1:33pm
I'm appreciative of the new shirts SO MUCH. MY faesthetic tee could not have fit better, I usually have to resew something, whether it be the sides or the length, and so I look forward to all being this way. I'm paying a few more dollars per shirt, and that sucks a bit, but the shirts are so much better now, and that is cool.
fran6
fran6 on Feb 18 '08 at 1:37pm
that's ok to me. can't wait to buy a threadless brand tee..
disillusioned
disillusioned on Feb 18 '08 at 1:41pm
Is the baseline price really $15 if the most basic designs will always have the "plastisol and chino additive" combination?

Or is there a non-plastisol solution that could result in a $15 shirt still?

If they feel like the Selects feel, then I'm happy either way... Just keeping it honest if we won't see a $15 anymore.
Lupencia
   Lupencia on Feb 18 '08 at 1:44pm
I think this makes a lot more sense, and the new tees are so much better, they actually have a waist now, for us girls.
Papaprime
   Papaprime on Feb 18 '08 at 2:05pm
3xl?!

You have just renewed my love for threadless by making a size I can wear
Answerthatandstayfashionable
Answerthatandstayfashionable on Feb 18 '08 at 2:11pm
I am concerned about the new prices.

I'm also wondering about the sale prices.
Ian Leino
   Ian Leino on Feb 18 '08 at 2:12pm
This is excellent in every way possible. Threadless has always had great designs from some amazing artists, and now they will ALL be printed on shirts that feel as good as they look. Huzzah!
angelito
angelito on Feb 18 '08 at 2:49pm
Round of applause for the Threadless crew! :)
Sgt.Dobad
Sgt.Dobad on Feb 18 '08 at 2:56pm
hooray!
pb4ugoha
pb4ugoha on Feb 18 '08 at 2:58pm
The product pages dont say "plenty in stock" or "Few in stock" any more. I liked that
artdrops
   artdrops on Feb 18 '08 at 3:09pm
oh don't mind a few more dollars for a good quality shirt and now that you 3xl I think i will be buying more!
Answerthatandstayfashionable
Answerthatandstayfashionable on Feb 18 '08 at 3:13pm
I'm 14, I don't have a job, I don't have a lot of money.
I haven't tried the new shirts yet, though... maybe I'm just saying this because the old shirts fit me terribly, and I don't want to pay more for something that fits bad.
telaine
telaine on Feb 18 '08 at 3:17pm
hip hip!!

and for those worried about the new shirts, just wait for the sale then to try them out first ... they really are much better than AA imo but I can understand the concerns too
Electrospecter
Electrospecter on Feb 18 '08 at 3:20pm
Is it weird that I actually liked FOTL?

I'm sure the new shirts are better, but I didn't think the old ones were terrible...
darkdog
darkdog on Feb 18 '08 at 3:35pm
hope small fits me lol
SEVEN-HUNDRED
SEVEN-HUNDRED on Feb 18 '08 at 3:41pm
Splendid
prinnyoverlord
prinnyoverlord on Feb 18 '08 at 3:49pm
Finally! Burn those FotL shirts! Send them back to the underworld inwhich they belong!! I'm happy that the new Custo shirts are fully in effect (correction: very happy), but like everyone else, pricing does concern me. Although yes, it makes perfect sense, but that still doesn't mean I can't pout over it. Nevertheless, I can actually buy shirt again now that those dastardly FotL are gone!
SteveOramA
SteveOramA on Feb 18 '08 at 4:26pm
sweet!
perfect!
Gazza7
Gazza7 on Feb 18 '08 at 4:40pm
reprints are still on FOTL... dang
disillusioned
disillusioned on Feb 18 '08 at 5:20pm
Just did a quick interview with Ross about the changes:
The Inside Skinny on Threadless’ New Prices
ir0cko
   ir0cko on Feb 18 '08 at 5:23pm
nice, chris
Coat
Coat on Feb 18 '08 at 5:26pm
I am so happy that there is an XS small now.
SO HAPPY.

Tiny people, FTW!
starr226
   starr226 on Feb 18 '08 at 5:41pm
so the submission kit HAS been updated?
dacat
   dacat on Feb 18 '08 at 8:08pm
Does anyone know if these shirts SHRINK a lot? I was told to buy one size larger from FOTL because they shrink....is that true?
viralVISUAL
   viralVISUAL on Feb 18 '08 at 8:53pm
That seems to be the million dollar question, dacat
happy tofu
happy tofu on Feb 18 '08 at 9:20pm
I'm with chelly, where are the new shirts made?
Torakamikaze
   Torakamikaze on Feb 18 '08 at 9:22pm
the one tless tee i own shrunk a bit more than i wouldve liked and im tempted to buy a size up for my next purchase
colorstoobright
colorstoobright on Feb 18 '08 at 9:29pm
I'm willing to fork out more money for better fits, definitely.
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Feb 18 '08 at 9:51pm
The tags say Bangladesh.
disillusioned
disillusioned on Feb 18 '08 at 9:57pm
Um, in the picture from the link in this post they say Made in USA...
SageSaget
SageSaget on Feb 18 '08 at 10:03pm
Yipee skipee!
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Feb 18 '08 at 10:57pm
Is it possible they've changed locations already? My Mr. Choppy says Made In Bangladesh
CreativeCat1313
CreativeCat1313 on Feb 19 '08 at 1:00am
Yay! New colors! Yay new sizes! Maybe I can buy a few girl tees now instead of having to wear guy clothes all the time!!! Excitement!
MarkLud12
MarkLud12 on Feb 19 '08 at 1:07am
thank you so much threadless!!! the new shirts are so much better than FOTL, folks, trust me...those things were so uncomfortable and I stopped buying shirts for a little while as a result. A few bucks more for a much better product is well worth it!! Well done.
psherman42
psherman42 on Feb 19 '08 at 1:18am
I heart my I
psherman42
psherman42 on Feb 19 '08 at 1:19am
I heart my I Heart Threadless tee so I don't mind paying a little extra if my new Threadless tees feel that good (hmm, my original comment got cut off due to the SHIFT+ comma bracket)
Tuppe
Tuppe on Feb 19 '08 at 3:00am
I quite liked the 50/50 cotton/polyester mix. Easy to wash, quick drying and if you hung them up neatly they came off the line perfectly without any crinkles. Cotton won't be as low-maintenance...
trindli
trindli on Feb 19 '08 at 4:39am
where are they made now? Bangladesh or US? I would really like to hear a staff member answer that..
beanie-o
beanie-o on Feb 19 '08 at 9:42am
The shirts are a mix from the US and Bangladesh. The hoodies, long sleeves, Custom color Select tees, and Kids/Baby items are all made in the US. Most of the short sleeve tees are made in Bangladesh. We know that overseas brings up concern of the working conditions, but we are not using sweatshops. The manufacturer we are going thru is a part of several Bangladesh labor groups like:
Garment Manufacturers and Exporters Association (http://www.bgmea.com) and
Worldwide Responsible Apparel Production Group (http://www.wrapapparel.org)
trindli
trindli on Feb 19 '08 at 10:10am
thanks very much for this answer!
looks like I can keep on shopping here :) (well, besides the fact that my carbon footprint will be higher.. but one can not have everything unfortunately..)
ArtsyLydia
ArtsyLydia on Feb 19 '08 at 11:33am
no tags, please.
MsHardc0r3toU
MsHardc0r3toU on Feb 19 '08 at 11:40am
i think this sucks, all your shirts are much smaller now and they fit perfectly before, comfortable length and width, i've always bought your XL and now your 2XL isnt even as big as your old L, so you've really not added a 2XL you've just compensated for all your shirt sizes running smaller. Guess i will not be shopping on this site anymore, too bad cause i buy a lot of shirts on here
phoenixphire24
phoenixphire24 on Feb 19 '08 at 12:07pm
I guess I'll have to drive down to the store to try on sizes. I usually wear a small, but have always worn medium threadless shirts. I'm not sure if I will still need to order medium or if the new smalls will fit.

I don't mind the new pricing so much, but I do hope they still have $10 sales. I buy a majority of my shirts then.
Dr. Elusis
Dr. Elusis on Feb 19 '08 at 1:25pm
I'm glad to see a girly 2XL added, but with all the feedback we gave on the fit of the old shirts versus the suggested fit of the new shirts, I was hoping for something better than 1) an XL that is almost identical to the AA XL (which fits nothing like an actual extra-large girly shirt), and 2) a 2XL that is still less than 40" in the bust. I wish I could go back and tell Fatshionista and other fat fashion communities that Threadless had listened to our feedback and had a real option for bigger women, but the new girly shirt size will barely accomodate a size 14, never mind anyone bigger.

I'm bummed. I haven't bought a shirt for myself in almost a year - everything I've purchased has been for gifts because I got sick of stuffing my 38DD rack into an ill-fitting shirt.
PussyTourette1
PussyTourette1 on Feb 19 '08 at 1:27pm
"I'm glad to see a girly 2XL added"

Now fat cunts can be nerd chic too!
shakethesheets
shakethesheets on Feb 19 '08 at 1:47pm
Girly 2XL is smaller than a guys M. You call most people who wear a size smaller than guys medium fat cunts?
snaggle tooth
snaggle tooth on Feb 19 '08 at 2:44pm
DBH did it, why not Threadless...why not?
musiclover35
musiclover35 on Feb 19 '08 at 3:50pm
Oy Vay!
I love the new colors.
But the prices seem to be trying to match other common T-shirt companies.
danqueca
danqueca on Feb 19 '08 at 3:59pm
I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but i bought one of the new shirts, and it had side seams, that i really didn't appreciate, from now are all of the tees going to come like that?
kismetnz
kismetnz on Feb 19 '08 at 4:19pm
Will all the tees eventually be available in all the new sizes???? Or only tees from now on?
Flying Toaster
Flying Toaster on Feb 19 '08 at 4:19pm
The maximum price will still be 26$ for a select and 17$ for a normal right?
I'm a bit upset because it took me a while before figuring out what size I was in American tees but I guess I'll get used to it. I'm glad Threadless moves on a bit with colours and the sizes :)
macgruder
macgruder on Feb 19 '08 at 4:46pm
looks like i will be buying less than. 95% of the shirts i see here are cool but not for me, and now with the price increase, I will be buying even less. I guess they need to compensate for all the money they give in prizes.

Mathcub
Mathcub on Feb 19 '08 at 4:53pm
noice! I'll be able to start buying tee's again with the new sizes :)
MrDomino
   MrDomino on Feb 19 '08 at 4:59pm
The Faesthetic shirt I bought fits all funky after the wash. I'm sure it's the side seams that are doing it, the back billows out in sort of a cape-ish way. I think I'm going to cut the seams and restitch them with a couple inches of fabric removed on both sides. I'll upload images if it works out. If not I'll just stretch the shirt over a canvas frame and throw it up on a wall.
sonomono
sonomono on Feb 19 '08 at 5:02pm
arghh...do you know an International System of Units exists? inches?!?what the hell... We should love the metre...
mrwright
mrwright on Feb 19 '08 at 5:24pm
I appreciate that the Bangledesh made (boo) t-shirts are from a "responsible" company, but the actual name is noticeably absent. What factory are these made in?
cliffdogg
cliffdogg on Feb 19 '08 at 5:43pm
I don't see what the big deal is, FotL and the new Custom Tees are (according to the size chart) the same size. Is there something I don't know about?
kimicheese
kimicheese on Feb 19 '08 at 6:15pm
how EXCITING!!! i can't wait. there are so many people i can order shirts for now. hey, chefs need love too, and they can't get it without hot t-shirts to wear when they're done. so there.
yamile
yamile on Feb 19 '08 at 7:41pm
Ok, I would like to know if there's a difference between the girly XL that we had before (last year) with the new girly XL (this year)?

Because I only see difference in length.

Thanks!
lizzykai
lizzykai on Feb 19 '08 at 8:17pm
Being on a budget, I really miss $15 tees... when it said girls and guys would be equal, I thought that meant girly-tees going down to $15, not guys up to $17...

I also think the whole "artists can use whatever techniques they want" idea will get canceled out when there's a price penalty.

For me, at least, if there's a design I love, I don't care about the extra added foil effect or gold shimmering ink. It's not worth an extra $9 dollars (Wizard Rock). If only there was a plain and simple option for each tee, so that those of us willing to live without wouldn't have to spend extra on features we don't care about.

With the blog interview, btw, I think $7 dollars off for sales would make more sense, since the new average is definitely not looking like a $15 tee.
lizzykai
lizzykai on Feb 19 '08 at 8:18pm
Although, I suppose we'll see if less people start buying these more customized shirts...
saharawi
saharawi on Feb 19 '08 at 8:40pm
Wait, you're not using American Apparel anymore? THAT explains why the last shirt I got fits so terribly.

Goodbye, Threadless, I shall miss you.
sonomono
sonomono on Feb 20 '08 at 2:33am
Hey I do not like this new econo-politic...I want back 15$ dollars tees...
sonomono
sonomono on Feb 20 '08 at 2:34am
I would never buy a 26$ tee!!!
pyr4lis
pyr4lis on Feb 20 '08 at 3:28am
Again size wise.. I personally had to go up a full size in the Girls shirts from the AA to the Threadless custom tees. I don't know if I just got unlucky or if others have had this issue too. I do however still wish the custom tees were a little longer.
vicopus1uk
vicopus1uk on Feb 20 '08 at 4:58am
im all for better fits and better quality shirts, but the threadless tees are almost tipping into being more expensive than shirts in the uk when you add tax and shipping. still at around $30 I will probs still buy threadless as i love the designs!
karyngcarter
karyngcarter on Feb 20 '08 at 9:46am
AA girly shirts were just fine (perfectly fitting for me in M size)... i'm not sure i'm gonna buy new custom shirts since a lot of people are telling they don't fit like AA.

I don't like the new prices either, 17$ for a girl shirt was already high enough...

Changes are not always for the best...
Emerald772
Emerald772 on Feb 20 '08 at 10:07am
I am really disappointed in how small the width of the girls sizes are. I'm with Dr. Elusis on hesitating to buy any more shirts as the bust just isn't spacious enough.
electrobix
electrobix on Feb 20 '08 at 10:57am
Really dissapointing move, the prices are much higher, and you're not really getting anything extra. Design winners have been so dull lately, printed on dull colours, can we get the bright, fun $15 shirts back?!

wavesofcolor
wavesofcolor on Feb 20 '08 at 1:35pm
So, every single one of the shirts released this week are $17 and up...real nice Threadless
/sarcasm
Very few of the designs released I would even wear, and if they're costing even more than before that just lowers the appeal for me that much more...I by no means think it is worth it to pay $15+ for a t-shirt.
All that aside, I like my Burn shirt very much.
Flying Toaster
Flying Toaster on Feb 20 '08 at 1:54pm
I was just browsing and...20, 21, 26$...so question. WHERE DO THE PRICES STOP? Is there a limit or are we gonna see 30$ tee in the future?
spires
   spires on Feb 20 '08 at 2:18pm
Great choices on the sizing! XS mens is something I constantly whined about and I'm glad it's here.

On the other hand, you seemed to toss the best colors away, and went with the safe, boring, ugly, easy, ones. Instead of olive green, try AA's evergreen. Get away from the natural palette and get into jeweltones. Olive and army? What's the point?

Where's mint, teal, seafoam, lime, sangria? A rich blue/green mix color? I'm disappointed that there's no red/fuscia mix color. How about a coral? There's no pastel or forest green, just midtones. Can't we get a 50/50 grey that's solid, and not heather?

Fuschia should be redder, like my icon.

When designing a new t-shirt line, you have the great opportunity to change minds about the colors used, and it seems like you guys just did the same (safe) old thing.
MichelleRichard
MichelleRichard on Feb 20 '08 at 4:01pm
Where are the Girly 2XL's??
fatheed
   fatheed on Feb 20 '08 at 4:05pm
They did a survey, and apparently, nobody wanted them any more.
lizzykai
lizzykai on Feb 20 '08 at 5:18pm
How are sales going to work?? I heard someone suggest $5 off... although now to move things it's going to have to be more like $7 off... or even $10. Or get into percentages..... my head is spinning!!

I guess we'll see if anyone is willing to buy the over-priced shirts.
Sgt.Dobad
Sgt.Dobad on Feb 20 '08 at 5:29pm
with all these people moaning about the price increases it seems like a great time to print one of the 1nk submissions *wink, wink*
Jonny Freedom
Jonny Freedom on Feb 21 '08 at 9:19am
does this mean the end of the threadless $10 sales?
himself1939
himself1939 on Feb 21 '08 at 6:11pm
Got lotsa Threadless T's @$15 and luved it. My budget didn't just go up like your prices. Why not offer more value and sell more T's. With my 50 or maybe 70 t's, I'll make do. Now I have to look around more, and certainly buy less from Threadless. Instead of two or four today, I got one at $15. Bummer! The market will speak, and you may make room for competition down at the low, more value for buck end.
--Ah, for the good old (low cost) days. (Sigh, ponder, wistful look)
pooner
pooner on Feb 22 '08 at 2:07am
haha i like how you say starting at 15 dollars with that nice exclamation point, cuz if this week is any example 17 is pretty much the minimum.

i think it's really cheap of you guys to do this, i'm going to designbyhumans now.
pooner
pooner on Feb 22 '08 at 2:08am
i mean seriously that "how many licks" shirt is 2 colors, and isn't even like much ink used at all, yet it's 17 dollars to start. what the heck constitutes that "$15!" starting price.
dear_lea
dear_lea on Feb 22 '08 at 6:19pm
WHERE ARE THE SHIRTS MADE?
American Apparel is awesome because they are sweatshop-free, made in the USA by employees who are paid decent. and they make great t's.
is everyone only concerned with saving $2?? why dont you just go walmart.
pooner
pooner on Feb 22 '08 at 6:21pm
these tee's are made in a 3rd world country (i forgot which one), however threadless maintains that the working conditions are equal or better than some here.
Dr. Elusis
Dr. Elusis on Feb 22 '08 at 9:31pm
http://youthoughtwewouldntnotice.com/blog3/?p=829
sp3nca
sp3nca on Feb 23 '08 at 12:54am
why not combine everything? make shirt price like they were back when you could only use 5 colors?

5 colors and under- $15
6+ colors/use of special inks- tailored prices due to ink cost/printing methods
cassiepaige
cassiepaige on Feb 23 '08 at 1:04am
I just received my first custom tee (Secret of Mensa) today. Here are my thoughts:
-The color is awesome
-The stitching is a lot neater and looks nicer
-The fit is about the same as FOTL.
-They are very thin, thinner than my AA shirts. Good thing in the summer, early fall and late spring, not a good thing the rest of the year.
-Worth $18? I am not sure yet, I need to wash it a few times.

The only thing I really don't like is the tags. I don't like having the tag sewn in and then printed on the back as well. I'd like to see the tag made a bit larger (like tags on store bought tees) with all the info on there and without the picture.
luis_91_nj
luis_91_nj on Feb 23 '08 at 1:05pm
Wow.
The prices are only gonna go higher now.
Soon we'll be paying for $40 shirts.
If it really costs money to do the ink, etc,
then why werent the prices of the shirts boosted up before ?
Makes you think. And its def NOT because certain shirts "need more material" or "involve more ink".
Sad.
morozco420
morozco420 on Feb 24 '08 at 4:54pm
Higher prices always have hidden costs, either by the cost of some supposed added value, whethe it's the type of shirt or style of ink, it's all passed along to the consumer..

suck.
morozco420
morozco420 on Feb 24 '08 at 4:55pm
Higher prices always have hidden costs, either by the cost of some supposed added value, whethe it's the type of shirt or style of ink, it's all passed along to the consumer..

suck.
ScoilerMontgumery
ScoilerMontgumery on Feb 25 '08 at 5:40pm
I am really really upset about this raise in prices. I feel like one of the things that Threadless was known for was its affordable prices for really cool shirts, but i honestly had no issue with the FOTL shirts and would rather have them instead of paying the extra couple dollars per shirt. A couple dollars may not seem like a lot but when ordering an average of 3 shirts or more a month it really does add up. I know personally my number of orders will decrease due to this. i guess i shall be nude again... *sigh*
spires
   spires on Feb 25 '08 at 6:18pm
i don't mind the prices, but I do mind the preponderance of boring colors. Sizes are better, and printing options are better. Just have to get some new colors in there.
J-Ray
J-Ray on Feb 25 '08 at 6:25pm
I counted 16 exclamation marks. This must be exciting news.
quoperate
quoperate on Feb 26 '08 at 2:49am
Are you serious? I Do Not Buy 100% cotton! I have not bought 100% cotton in Years, because I inevitably let one slip into the drier by accident or impatience with line drying... and my lovely shirt cannot be worn. :( This is very upsetting to me because I Love the designs and the community aspect of threadless... but my building's dryer does not have a cold or low setting, and I am not shelling out more money for your raised-price shirts AND extra coins for a laundromat with cold setting. PLEASE don't do this! I'm begging you. You will lose at least one frequent customer! IF however you chose a cotton blend with 10-50% non-cotton, or preshrink the 100% cotton fabric I would pay up to $50 per shirt! 'Cause I could actually wear it more than 3 times. ...what a concept.
Please don't make them in only shrinking fabric! Please let me keep buying from you!
Also I would much prefer that they were made in America.
The way I see it your in for an over all profit loss with this move due to the sudden inflation in prices, the mystery of which size is going to fit us, the potential of supporting unethical labor practices, and the guarunteed shrinkage of your product. More fabric colors and more sizes Might let you stay even if you're lucky. Losing some customers and gaining some.
very sad, formerly yours,
Laura
vancakes
vancakes on Feb 26 '08 at 3:26am
Ah, this is truly sad news for me because in all honesty, some of these shirts are not worth 21 dollars!! coughitsamountainwithgreyredandwhitestripescough and other works. I know nothing about inking or what it costs to do these t-shirts but if it's true on what others have said, if it's always been a problem, why now? And why not then? I also had no problem with FOTL, it was snug and fit comfortably. Oh well, for every customer gained, one will be lost. I'll have to wait and see for the sales to see how these new tshirts will work and if they're really worth the price increases. ( ; _ ; )
squatterjohn
squatterjohn on Feb 26 '08 at 3:38am
quoperate: The girly shirts have been on 100% cotton for years. Also, they've cost $17 which is the price of every regular shirt this week so I don't know what there is for you to complain about. If you think you're going to shrink your shirts, why not buy a size bigger in the future?

vancakes: The shirt you are referring to is a Select shirt, which previous to this change would have cost $25, which actually represents a saving of $4 to the customer.
Pop-Monkey
Pop-Monkey on Feb 26 '08 at 9:00am
Okay, it's been asked a couple of times already with no apparent answer. I figured it might have been updated, but a new download of the submission kit templates shows that the new colors are not yet present, despite the information given above. Where are the new colors?
Vaporize
Vaporize on Feb 26 '08 at 9:24am
Make it $10 :P
sp3nca
sp3nca on Feb 26 '08 at 11:23am
"and I am not shelling out more money for your raised-price shirts AND extra coins for a laundromat with cold setting. PLEASE don't do this! I'm begging you. You will lose at least one frequent customer! IF however you chose a cotton blend with 10-50% non-cotton, or preshrink the 100% cotton fabric I would pay up to $50 per shirt!"

way to contradict yourself. don't even try for a rebuttal now.
ScoilerMontgumery
ScoilerMontgumery on Feb 27 '08 at 1:13am
everyone should stop attacking each others opinions. Secondly it also upsets me how threadless tries to spin the new prices as just making it fair for the girls... weak.
quoperate
quoperate on Feb 27 '08 at 1:43am
squatter john: fyi none of the (previous) girly sizes even fit me, so I've been buying guys medium, which used to cost $15. Finally they now have a propper female size to fit me "girly 2XL" which is the largest female size - so yay now I can buy the feminine color option - but not if I have to buy it one size larger, 2XL is as high as girly goes. And I dont want a shirt thats too big and then let it shrink because the seams usually go wonky and who knows what happens to the print.
sp3nca: shirts that are soft AND wont shrink AND come from threadless would be worth that to me. But since thats not an option, I'm not going to even bother.
ScoilerMontgumery
ScoilerMontgumery on Feb 27 '08 at 4:54pm
HOORAY FOR ATTACKING EACHOTHER!
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lizzykai
lizzykai on Mar 05 '08 at 7:34pm
On a different subject, my friend just got one of the brand new Threadless tees and she said she hates the new sizing, and that the fabric is much thinner.

:(
passname
passname on Mar 05 '08 at 7:39pm
eyyy on another brand new subject, this is more pointed at the threadless staff although im guessing if there is one its under wraps...shall there be a sale anytime soon

i.e. next week :P
?
pooner
pooner on Mar 05 '08 at 7:49pm
i'm probably not gonna buy shirts from here anymore. the higher prices coupled with the fact that everyone says the same two things about the shirts (bad fit, and too thin) doesn't make me too confident about this place.

so i'll probably post the pictures of the shirts i have for the stp's and then buy like one more shirt, then i'm finished.
madruga
madruga on Mar 06 '08 at 5:15am
If there are this much issues going on with the new brand, I hope Threadless fix them soon.
I really love some designs that come up here, and would hurt to leave the community, but I'm not buying crap fabric!
squatterjohn
squatterjohn on Mar 06 '08 at 6:52am
But everyone is not saying the same things about the shirts. Some people like the new fit and don't think it's thin at all. I guess maybe it depends where you're from. I have no desire to wear thick polyester in Summer so I think FOTL is hideous. I'm also of the opinion that 100% cotton, no matter how thin, can never be called "crappy" fabric when compared to the artificial nightmare that is polyester.

Are we all losing sight of the positive aspects of the t-shirts though?

* Colour options are now identical for guys, girls and kids. No more wishing for the other gender's "better" colour, no more selling out of the smaller guys sizes because girls don't like creme etc.

* Selects are cheaper. Notice how every blog complaining about the price "increase" is on a Select tee? And this doesn't just affect the Selects. In the past, we had to pay $25 for a gimmick like flock, superglow or even 8 colours because Selects were the only place you'd see this stuff. The new pricing structure reflects the reality of the cost of these techniques. It was in the past that we were getting "ripped off." So what if now we have to pay $19 or $21 for such things when in the past we had to pay $25?

*By opening up all these new printing techniques to all designers we get better designs.

* The most common price is still $17 which is what [thin] girls have been paying forever.

I'm really happy with the new shirts and I'm happy for those aforementioned reasons as well as I, personally, prefer the fit and fabric.
steven218
   steven218 on Mar 06 '08 at 7:08am
bloody hell some people moan a lot about money.

come to the uk, where the grass is green, the trees are tall, and a tshirt costs AT LEAST $40.

if threadless do ever hit a $30 shirt, it's still cheaper than what i would normally pay. some people couldn't see a bargain if it ran up and kicked you square in the bollocks.
madruga
madruga on Mar 06 '08 at 8:53am
squatterjohn: 100% cotton CAN be crappy! believe me! sure you've never seen the fabric that you get around here if you buy custom printed shirts provided by small printing shops... that's almost toilet paper! cheap bastards!
but ordinary shirts around here can be as cheap as $10 (or reach $50 depending on the brand) with enough quality to last years, and always 100% cotton. Anything partially synthetic is hard to find (yay!)
I really doubt Threadless would go for crappy fabric... just haven't seen the new brand myself yet. And as long as quality is good and prices don't skyrocket, I'm fine! Paying twice as much I'd pay in a mall and for a shirt that is so exclusive, make me feel happy, may amuse others and look absolutely nothing like anything you see in the streets... that's such a bargain! =D
spires
   spires on Mar 06 '08 at 8:58am
T-shirts shouldn't be thick and heavy. If the shirts are 'flimsy' then bravo Threadless. You can't wear a heavy t-shirt in summer. Why would you want to wear a canvas bag for a shirt?

If you rely on t-shirts as a source of warmth, you're doing it wrong.
squatterjohn
squatterjohn on Mar 06 '08 at 9:06am
But some Threadless designs are so great you've just got to show them off, even in sub-zero temperatures!
spires
   spires on Mar 06 '08 at 9:14am
This is all a damn shame, because all the best colors went out the window.

Who needs both army & olive? One of those could be swapped to a color that doesn't resemble baby scat. This nature palette thing needs to evolve.
Framble
Framble on Mar 06 '08 at 9:36am
I like the new shirts. They feel good.
CreativeCat1313
CreativeCat1313 on Mar 07 '08 at 12:26am
I'm still looking for an updated submission kit. What's the point in designing new t's if I can't pick colors to match the new shirts?
squatterjohn
squatterjohn on Mar 07 '08 at 3:42am
The kit has been updated. I think the colour selection will improve though. Threadless are no longer restricted to what FOTL or AA want to make, they can produce whatever colours they want. We as customers and designers just have to demand it.
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Yourhero
Yourhero on Mar 10 '08 at 10:18am
$5 price hike is a bit excessive. Most prints this week are $20, definitely not cool.
3 days later
Pop-Monkey
Pop-Monkey on Mar 14 '08 at 12:23am
Squatterjohn, I'm not seeing how the kit has been updated. It's still labeled as submission kit "version 1" folder, and it has the same colors and photos as it had before. 'Splain yourself.
squatterjohn
squatterjohn on Mar 15 '08 at 9:24am
lol, it was update before you joined!

They updated the kit before making the switch so that designers could submit designs on the new colours, as by the time they were printed, they would possibly be on Threadless tees.

The former submission kit contained colours like Dakota Slate and did not have silver.

You can tell if your kit's new because it should have a pdf about the new printing methods.
8 days later
Intoxikate
Intoxikate on Mar 23 '08 at 11:15am
I'm happy that girly 2XL is now being offered! However the design selection is VERY limited.

Does anybody know if all designs will eventually be offered in this size???

....cause that would be super.
8 days later
millax
millax on Mar 31 '08 at 6:24pm
The whole point of buying shirts online is that they are much cheaper than what you can find in stores around the city..

Now they are pretty much the same price, so unless there is something I desperately want, I won't be making any purchases.. What exactly was wrong with the old way things were done? I've never had any issues with my threadless shirts..
berrynoir
berrynoir on Mar 31 '08 at 6:41pm
I can't really agree with you there, Millax - Threadless represents individually designed, limited edition t-shirts that we, the consumers, have a vote towards printing. It's a lot more for most people than a cheaper-than-stores shirt. Besides, for the basic shirts, it's $17 instead of $15...for the guys. $2. That's really going to convince you to buy mass-produced t-shirts at the mall instead of these lovely things crafted by talented designers? I'd much rather support the artists and hell, I end up with a pretty fucking great shirt for $17.
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mspaintdotexe
mspaintdotexe on Apr 05 '08 at 6:33pm
The fruit of the loom shirts were perfect. PERFECT. Why'd you have to go and change?

I just got one of the new threadless brand tshirts, and its way too long. I checked the size chart and it says it's the same length as the old FOTL shirts, but it feels much longer. I feel like I'm almost wearing a dress in this thing. It should be at least 2 inches shorter than it is.

I'm considering returning the shirt, and possibly not buying from here any more due to this new shirt brand.
30 days later
bangshedies
bangshedies on May 06 '08 at 9:32am
how long before threadless tees are thirty bucks a pop?
keep buying from amer app and they'll be forty.
68 days later
kookie21
kookie21 on Jul 13 '08 at 2:15pm
no nobody likes change... ever.

anyway.

i just got some of the new style t shirts recently. I don't hate them or anything, but i do prefer the AA ones that used to be used. Wasn't so keen on the FOTL t shirts, but the AA, to me were perfect. They fit nice, and the length was great when i was wearing them with low slung jeans, they didnt hug around my fatty fatty stomach too much in that case in point either.

The new ones are ok, still fit well, and if anything are longer, alot longer, they just aren't *quite* as flattering and "i love this t shirt!" as before. The material and look around the neck looks a little cheap to me too.

I will probably continue to buy, and realise that this is the way things are now, my whining won't stop it.. but that's just my 2 cents worth.
22 days later
ChelsG
ChelsG on Aug 04 '08 at 4:59pm
As my first purchase from this website I was excited to get them, but I am no longer happy and will be returning all three shortly.

I bought three X-Large shirts knowing they will shrink, but honestly the shirts I received felt like a medium on me! Shoddy sewing on the hems and shoddy tie-offs of the threads. I have never had such poor quality shirts before.

This has really soured my view of this site for allowing such shoddy craftsman ship to be passed on to customers.
chlobo107
chlobo107 on Aug 04 '08 at 5:02pm
I've never had any trouble with any t-shirt or brand or fabric or fit or length or wash on this website. Keep it up Threadless!
18 days later
missbhavens
missbhavens on Aug 22 '08 at 7:29pm
After much apprehension regarding the new sizing, I upsized (a stab to my inner size-conscious girly self) to a large, and I'm SO glad I did!

I actually really like the new shirts and think they're a huge improvement over the AAs. These new Tees are cut longer and slimmer and have a more narrow un-ribbed collar all of which adds together to make a cleaner look.

YES, they are "thinner" fabric. But they have a nice stretch to them and they hold their shape better. And whoo! Talk about soft.

I made a crude size comparison set on flickr with a couple of new tees and my old favorite one. Hope it helps anyone with sizing issues.

Mochou
Mochou on Aug 23 '08 at 3:20am
what a good news to all of us... keep going threadless there more to go.
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