Hi,

Usually, i use the WIP section diferently, i mean, this time, the design is already ready to sub, and i alrady worked on it maybe too much lool but anyway, i always found WIP useful...so here we go!



It's obviously a special tribute to movies, classics,

and special ones i love. Now, i wanted to express it, but with a different, absurd and cool way. here it is !



Two Things:



First, can you find all the awesome movies? ^^



And i wanted to read your suggestions, about the title, about the whole concept, about the names i gave. My english sometimes betrays me... SO, what do you think? you like, you love, you hate?



THANKS!

Thanks for your comments on mine.Wow this is really cool.Great colour combinations and really creative. I get all the movie references too. I say its ready, although you already know that haha. Maybe shorten to title to 'The be(a)st movies" yours works well too though.Good luck jebs!

Thanks Leo!

congrats about having found all the references (let's say that the species names help :-p )



thanks for your title suggestion, i'll look at oher proposals ;-)



i want to see what people think, and then i'll sub it :)

This is great in concept and execution. This is a kick ass design that could actually get printed. I would like to see more shirt color choices and placement; not everyone can wear orange.



The only edit I might consider is the horizontal font choice; It is not a font I would choose. Yes, it is readable and a little frilly (Classic) I just personally don't like it. Call it a preference.



Please check out my critique when you get a chance.

thanks a LOT Musarter.



Indeed, the color choices, and placement are coming soon with a flash template (let's say tommorow) but i let threadlessers first give nice comments like yours eh eh.



About the font, i take your advice in consideration, what other people think about it? I wanted something classic, reminding of scientific, biological names...



thanks a lot for your comment, i worked on it, so that's pretty cool to read!

Funny concept Jebs! You might consider turning the cows horns outward so they more closely resemble the helicopter/de loren wings. I don't think you need the white dots on the snail and bowler hat, they seem a bit forced, just to pick up on the peace symbol on the helmet. Do you need the symbol and text on the helmet? It's very recognizable without them, I think. I'm not getting lidless eye sheep. Sorry to say this but a bush of hair surrounding a vertical ellipse conveys a woman's private parts no matter what you name it. It might be better to think of something else to put there. Mike from Monsters Inc., Shrek's face, Simba from The Lion King?

Mike

shrek's face

Simba



Since the animals evolve into movie symbols, maybe, "Darwin's Origin of Movies", or "Darwin's Evolution of movies" for a title.



Anyway, good to see you back, love this idea, go, go, go! =]

Well, I don't think this need to spend any longer in the critique space.... SEND IT TO PRINT!... really nice and funny work

Jebs, I forgot to say I'm deleting my critique and subbing it, so don't bother about finding it again. I'm going with B&W because the majority of people that seen the WIP in the blogs preferred it. Thanks for the input though, I'll check back with you on this one. Cheers =]

Nacho G ;-)



quister: hi! First, thanks a lot for your long post, as always, interesting, clever :)

Indeed, about he horns, you are right, i should twist them a little! excellent! About the snail, i like the dots light, and i can't get rid of them, but, about the Full Metal Snail, the text was a funny idea, let's see what people think, "Born To SLime" is too much...or not?



about the eye sheep loool, but in a way, i can't tell you are wrong, but imagination always will play tricks... It's Sauron Eye from The Lord of the Rings! ^^

thanks for the links, i don't think i will draw them, because they won't be as nice as this one imo.

I drew Hannibal Lecter initially too, but Sauron wa ;)

Nacho G ;-)



quister: hi! First, thanks a lot for your long post, as always, interesting, clever :)

Indeed, about he horns, you are right, i should twist them a little! excellent! About the snail, i like the dots light, and i can't get rid of them, but, about the Full Metal Snail, the text was a funny idea, let's see what people think, "Born To SLime" is too much...or not?



about the eye sheep loool, but in a way, i can't tell you are wrong, but imagination always will play tricks... It's Sauron Eye from The Lord of the Rings! ^^

thanks for the links, i don't think i will draw them, because they won't be as nice as this one imo.

I drew Hannibal Lecter initially too, but Sauron wa ;)

oops, Sauron was much more powerful i meant.

BUG ^^



Quister: ok for the WIP deleted, but i really think you should put your tee template in first Frame, it's pretty strong!



thanks again Quister, and cheers ;)

Oh no, I should have gotten the Sauron eye, doh! Maybe label it "Sauron Sheep" like you did "Pulp Sheep" instead of "lidless eye sheep" so there's more of a clue for the viewer?



I see your point about tee first, design second, thanks again for your input =]

Cool shirt - its ready for print!

Yeah Quister, how didn't you find him! ah ah

in fact, i didn't want to use the Sauron Name, as it's too direct, obvious (like i didn't put Death Star Fish for example, but instead Dark Side Fish), i want to give the guy who look at it a little game to play with...for a few seconds of course !



@ piratestroke: lol, so i send it directly to the winning Threadless service, no need to put it on votes eh eh eh

By the Way:

thanks Quister for your titles proposition, i forgot to talk about that!



TITLE PROPOSITION: "The Origin of Be(a)st Movies"

or "The Classification of Be(a)st Movies"



(indeed it's also a reference to Darwin Origin of species, biological classification)

i lovet it - nice artwork and cool idea!

thanks!



i'll sub it this weekend i guess, but before, i want to improve it a little, make the flash template, make a color alternative, choose the final title...and listen to your awesome suggestions !t

here is V2

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THANKS for the great Feedback! Thanks Quister ;-)



So, nice detail add i think, the cow ears, playing much better with the helicopter and DeLorean shapes similarity



I Changed the Horizontal font, with a Typewriter one, and i wrote it smaller, as it should not take all the focus. Typewriter is also, the one that Kubrick and other artists used at the time :-)



i reworked the Species Part, the vertical font is now just written : Fishes, SHeeps, Cows, Snails; instead of the repetition of "species" word.



So, WHAT DO YOU THINK: V1 or v2 Layout, fonts?



thanks in advance

BY the WAY:



Quister suggested this title:



"Darwin's Origin of Movies"

i add: "The Origin of Be(a)st Movies"

or the previous one... which you prefer?

Thanks!



and the score is : V2 Font vs V1 font: 1-0



:-D

v3 is just a better V2 in the font choice. The V2 has some improvments imo, but the typewriter finally didn't make the work done lol



what ya think?

(i am finishing the color and placement mockup)

Looks awesome. Go for it.

Yeah Thank you Musarter, you were the first to point out the Font bad choice :-)

This new version is just for Quister who had "a problem" with my "Lidless Eye" i mean, Sauron's Eye lol



it's better now, no doubt!

Ha-ha! Yes, Sauron's eye is better =]



I think you might want to change the names of the species to fish, sheep, cows and snails. Fishes and sheeps are not the plural for the species, it's fish and sheep. Love the cow ear addition btw. I'm not a fan of "beast" as part of the title because fish and snails are not beasts and sheep are meek and not considered beasts. Also, after thinking about it, the movies are pretty obvious. So, maybe you don't have to refer to it in the title. You could title it, "The Origin of Species", since each animal evolves into another? Anyway, great concept and illo, whatever title you go with =]

Thanks a lot quister :)



just for you Sauron ^^



So I write: Fish - Sheep - Cow - SNail not in plural but in singular...?





in a way, are you telling me that you preferred V1 when i wrote "Fish Species" etc. ?



about the Title. I dunno, i like a few of your titles, now, i don't know what i will choose, i am lost lol :-)

in a way, are you telling me that you preferred V1 when i wrote "Fish Species" etc. ?



No Jebs, I'm just saying fish and sheep are plural, and cows and snails are plural, so I'd say go with those words because it would be grammatically correct. And since you are showing more than one of each species, using the plural would be the right thing to do.

Quister, you are a master :)



thanks a thousand times

my english sucks, OUCH!



that's ok. i am just trying to download Philips Flash Template and i can't, it bugs !!! anyway, patience ^^

I'm still using the first Flash template Manos put up. Nothing could be clearer and easier imo. No hidden tabs or scrolls. It's hereif you want to try it. Just click on "old" and download for free.

yeah thanks quister, i use it too, but i wanted to try Philips one, which seemed pretty awesome !

now it's Flash Time!

so i added the classical Manos flash template (awesome as always), with two alternative colors, Orange and Fuschia Tee Shirt !



My MAIN concern is that since v2, i changed the classification "Fish Species" "SHeep Species" etc. in "Fish" "SHeep" alone, and i don't want people to lose the species concept when they'll see it.



But the repetition "species" was boring and heavy....so should i keep it as it is...and sub it?



Any suggestions? any ideas on names, to be funnier? (like i did for apocalypse cow, instead of apocalypse now eheh)



thanks everybody, and especially to Quister who is as usual, the best ;-)

light! camera! animals!



me likes it!good luck!

Jesus Krist : thanks for all the comments since the beginning :)



Adam antium: yeah! we didn't talk since a looong time, my favorite italian designer :-)

thanks, and by the way, i love the "Lights, Camera, Animals! "

Ok, this afternoon, i will make a WIP version with a better slide 2 (i mean, as fun as the the third slide, or just simpler) and i will rework the lidless eye, more like previous versions, because it seems to play a bad "optic effect" on our eyes whe we look at it !



and thanks Adam antium, you didn't know that your comment would make me find the title ah ah: "Lights, camera, animals ! (the forgotten species)

Awesome go for it. Good Luck.

Will V6 be the final version?



I reworked the Clockwork Snail, with the idea to add the Alex's eyeliner stuff,

that make the snail even more detailed, hope you'll like it!



I reworked slightly the lidless eye, of Sauron, the orange outline is now better, giving not anyamore this "fuzzy" optical effect i didn't want to!



I reworked the presentation with a new 2nd frame too lol



THE TITLE: "Lights, camera, Animals ! (the forgotten species)"



so, suggestions, ready to sub?



THANKS

SUB!!!!

thanks addu ^^

HAHA I din't watched the 2nd slide, i laughed hell out of it. :)



Nice idea, best of luck. :)

ahah addu, it was the surprise slide, i hade fun making it in fact

and thanks a lot again ^^

that's so nice man....

the yellow shirt is my favorite.

I like a lot the graphics, although I didn't get a couple of them (but probably it's because of my poor english LOL!)



anyway, that's good enough to submit!

lol at born to slime! :)

Yeah Thanks a lot Letter Q!



I've just looked at you designs already submitted, that's a shame you've not be printed yet, but anyway, that WILL be for sure, no doubt!



and my english is also not perfect at all lol

do u mind checkin this one in the running? sorry to spam u, but you seems to like my artwork.....



http://www.threadless.com/submission/268001/Rusty_Gears



good luck with this one!

oh....... we wrote at the same time..... thanx dude!!

loooool, i did it while you were writing this comment , so it's not even a spam, just a comment and vote i wanted to make on my own eh eh :-)

;) cheers!!!!!

The idea is great, I think it's ready to submit. I'm not too sure about a couple of them, like the Sauron eye and the helicopter, I think those go a little too far off topic, but overall it's very strong. Maybe you could have the eye looking down so the transparent part is in the same spot as the faces, instead of being centered. And with the helicopter maybe the post connecting the rotors to the body could be less visible, so it looks more like the transparent parts of the cow.



Can you check out my new version?

http://www.threadless.com/critique/66324/Kumquat_Squat#v4

mmm i'm liking it

@ Falloutgear: Thanks a lot! i think your suggestion about the helicopter is excellent, i will try to work a little on it.

ABout Sauron eye...i am no sure, if i make it like you said, we won't recognize it at all...anyway, i'll think about it.

and thanks for the others ;)

THE TITLE: "Lights, camera, Animals ! (the forgotten species)"



i reworked slightly the helicopter upper part, especially the post connecting the rotors to the helicoper. Now it looks a bit more like the cow horns. Thanks FalloutGear for the feedback.



i think this is the FINAL version.

Thank you SO MUCH for all the nice suggestions, you rock!



Time to SUB? Ultimate Suggestion? :-)

Like the Tee1 version with the goat :)

Nice addition to the Clockwork Snail (although I've never seen the film I recognize the symbols).

You should go on for sub !

thanks a loooooot !



@Modano: i love your avatar eheh, "eh what's the matter with this dishwasher chico" ^^. glad you like the clockwork rework too.



@ jesus Krist: you rock! thanks for all the time you took to comment my wip, in fact, me too, i thought i would sub v1, but threadlessers never stop to surprise me with their awesome ideas.

The style of the design is really cool and I appreciate the connections you made visually but the concept as a whole seems like a stretch. The solution for me would be to maintain more of the original animal in each version instead of completely losing it by the second frame in each.

thanks ibyes for your comment, but i dont understand honestly what do you mean, maybe my english is too limited... can you explain it differently?

I'm trying to think of another way to explain it, but I can't;)

Its ok, my comment would alter the design too much anyway.



I'm sure it will do well as is.

I really think you should go for sub; it's ready! The references are clever and strong, and the graphics are well executed. Well done!

Can you check out mine? I think I am almost ready to sub, but I want to make some final fixes... Cheers!

When_Dairy_Goes_Bad

that's ok ibyes, no problem, i just went to look at the meaning of "feel like a stretch" and i understand better your point of view :-)



this design is after all something to play with, interacting with the viewers, finding the connections, the movies, the play of shapes...



anyway, i will send it as it is and hopefully, people will loooove it ah ah



thanks averiarose, i'll check yours when i have time

JUST SUBBED :-)



MANY THANKS to everybody who participated, it was a pleasure as always, to make a WIP with you ;-)



i tell you when it's on the running

love it!



check mine

I sort of have no idea what is going on here.

hi bio-bot 9000,

i don't understand what are you meaning?



and thanks graf

and the version subbed, with a better title, is waiting approval here: click to see the subbed designt

It's UP FOR Scoring! you can vote here if U want



Thanks again and again and again, cheers ;-)

Hey Jebs, so is that template that Manos gave you what alows you to do that little menu on the bottom of the image so that you can have multiple images in the same submission? I'm quite new here so i don't know all the tips and tricks just yet... But if you could help out with how to do that it would be greatly appreciated =) and if its not too much trouble could you post your advice on my critique? Thanks in advance! =D



http://www.threadless.com/critique/64950/Think_Outside_of_the_Box

schweet, submit it, http://www.threadless.com/critique/66831/flamingHO

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