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mamaGiraffe on Nov 07 '09
With the holiday season coming up soon, I'm hoping I can get some good feedback to get this ready to submit. Any suggestions for how I can improve it? Do you like the text? Without it, there's just a big oval on your chest...it needed something without being distractingly busy.
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lizsmithson on Nov 08 '09
I'm not sure you need the plate at all, just the crumb outline and him are enough if you do it on a different colored shirt and make the crumb outline more noticeable. I like the artwork of the gingerbread man!! I don't much like the text though. Keep working! I like the idea :]
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 08 '09
Hmmm, never thought about leaving out the plate. That would solve the problem of having a big oval on your chest and needing the text to fix that. I'll try getting rid of both. Thanks.
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sjem on Nov 08 '09
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 08 '09
OK, got rid of the plate and the text. And I tried it on pretty much all the colors. This is probably a bit of overkill showing all the colors I liked it on. Either that, or my complete inability to make a decision.
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ryangoestoschool on Nov 08 '09
I seem to think that the plate actually got the message across more clearly. I think what it needs is an indication that it was a girl gingerbread that was there--maybe a head bow or something? And maroon for the win!
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lizsmithson on Nov 08 '09
It's hard for me to tell mamaGiraffe...I think if you defined the outline of the girl just a bit more it might still be good without the plate...but I know I'm a bit of a minimalist, so wait for other people's opinions...the majority rules anyway since they're the voters :)
I like maroon and creme the best. I think the design is more calming and Christmas-y on those colors and on the pastels it crosses the chasm into cutesy, you know? Bottom line. wait for other people's opinions, because they're gonna tell you what it needs. I love the idea! So make sure you keep this bumped enough so people can guide you into making the execution great. :] |
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 08 '09
Thanks for the input. You guys are very helpful!
I can easily add more crumbs to enhance the outline of the girl. There are a couple of pink squiggly frosting pieces there, but maybe not obvious enough. I hadn't thought about a bow. |
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lizsmithson on Nov 08 '09
What if you just take away the divot in her legs so it looks like a dress outline.
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RoeeSch on Nov 08 '09
I think that the point will get across better if you give the ginger man a fat belly. Nice Idea and illustration.
Care to critique mine: link ? |
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sjem on Nov 08 '09
I prefer it without the plate or text.
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 10 '09
OK, so I'm thinking I need to add more crumbs around the girl, and leave out the plate and text, and put in on a maroon shirt. Sound good?
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aklubisz on Nov 10 '09
on my opinion,its better with the plate, and love the idea! :)
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 11 '09
OK, mixed reviews.... Plate or no plate.... I've posted here with both.
Also, I've added a handbag....too cheesy? ryangoestoschool suggested a hair bow or something to make it more obvious it was a girl. I thought a handbag might be fun, but maybe too much now. |
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 11 '09
Oh, and I tried adding more crumbs around the girl, but then it was starting to get TOO obvious. I guess I could still do that if I added more crumbs all over the place too, not just around her.
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elliemaybe on Nov 11 '09
I like it better without the plate, personally. And it's kind of hard to tell what the handbag is... maybe a high-heeled gingerbread shoe or something instead?
I'm a little thrown by the expression on gingerman's face. Perhaps he should look more worried or guilty? |
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 11 '09
I added a pair of pink frosting heels. I changed the handbag a bit. And I changed the boy's eyes and eyebrows....is this a better expression of relief that she was eaten and not him? Or does it look more like guilt now?
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Frickendoodles on Nov 11 '09
The eyebrows do look a lot more relieved, and I don't think it looks like guilt. I think it would be funny if he was crying instead of feeling relieved though...but thats just me
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ryangoestoschool on Nov 11 '09
I actually see more relief too. Apart from a few minor things which dont bother me, but others may point out, I think this is ready for submission!
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domicici on Nov 12 '09
I think the message must be much more clear. For me it took a few second to understand the story. First I thought that the trace was made by the cookie guy, after that I saw the girl's shoes and I get it but still don't understand that small piece on the right side, it is also a shoe? I think it would be ok to leave a few pieces of cake from the girl's body AND you can insert maybe a shadow of a human hand so the story will have more drama, and the guy can look in the viewer's eye.
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domicici on Nov 12 '09
and that red in the background is totally not good, in my opinion
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angeluzend on Nov 12 '09
i agree with domicici, even with the fact that tghe background isn't good.. anyway it could be very cool working on it!
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textal on Nov 12 '09
It's adorable. I would probably do the hairbow idea instead of the shows because gingerbread girls don't usually wear shoes, and I couldn't tell that was a purse at first. Just a bow, and you're done, I'd say.
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heretik studios on Nov 12 '09
great idea you've got going here. It's a little ambiguous though, in some smaller ways. Specifically, it's hard to tell what the things left on the plate are supposed to represent. I couldn't tell that was a handbag until I read the description. Maybe leave a more recognizable piece of her behind, like the legs or something.
A little more clarity would really take this one to the submit level. Hilarious idea! Please take a moment to leave some feedback on my piece: "The Muse 3" |
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 15 '09
OK, I've taken critiques into account and adjusted things a bit more. I've added more crumbs. I swapped out the heels and handbag for a head bow. And I even tried adding a piece of the girl to the plate....an arm, complete with a pearl bracelet. I've shown it with and without the arm because I'm not so sure about it. Sorry, I just couldn't do the one with the severed arm on a red shirt....it's morbid enough already.
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 15 '09
I don't have flash on my computer, and I don't know of any other way to show more than one image per submission. So I'm uploading two versions right in a row, but this is just a closer view than the previous image.
Please take a look at the previous version to see other variations---plate or no plate, arm or no arm, shirt colors. |
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JCMaziu on Nov 15 '09
Jejeje...o understand how he's feel.
Second version is best for me...plate and arm. Maybe you can improve a bit the character's expression of relief. Plz, if you have time score this. Thanks. |
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azarello on Nov 15 '09
LOL, cute & funny.
with arm pls..ppl easily gets it with the arm in it. i dont disagree with the plate, but try add some cookie crumbs on the plate's outer ring ;) best of luck! |
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Giraffix on Nov 15 '09
So, I looked at your older versions and I think this one is the best. If you haven't subbed it yet, you def. should.
Can you help me out? I've got your back! Thanks! |
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Giraffix on Nov 15 '09
P.S. - nice screen name.
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Karnivala on Nov 15 '09
I like the one with the plate and with the arm, very cute.
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Magpie_king on Nov 15 '09
I really like it.
Not sure if I would change anything. Tis good. I really need help on this - I like it and want to submit, but I keep getting different contradictory advice . http://www.threadless.com/critique/56470/Henry_the_80_s |
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b12345 on Nov 15 '09
wow its cool.
have sum time plz check mine.http://www.threadless.com/profile/997187/b12345 |
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textal on Nov 15 '09
Reall cute. Only suggestion I can think of is maybe adding tongue, like he's licking his lips. Nice work!
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olandrobo on Nov 15 '09
Aaah, this is soo cool! I would put some more effort to the plate though, it doesn't feel finished. Maybe add some pattern to the rim or something, like flowers.
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weefee on Nov 15 '09
oooh yeah, repeat flower pattern will make it swit swoo alright. I like it!
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 16 '09
Well, what do you think? What I gathered from various feedback I've recieved....With the severed arm, on the red, with the plate, more crumbs around the edge, and a flower border on the plate. (is the border too busy?)
It was also suggested to work on the facial expression a bit. I'm going for relieved--relief that she was eaten instead of him. The top one is the way it's been the last few versions. The bottom one has the eyes looking more at the viewer, as was suggested by domicici. It makes him look more scared than relieved. But still works. Any thoughts? |
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olandrobo on Nov 16 '09
I think the flowers works great but maybe try and use the pink color you have to make it less prominent. Also the shadow color of the plate look a bit strange if you're going for a dark red shirt color.
I first thought that he had eaten her, which to me was a funnier. :) Plz look here: http://www.threadless.com/critique/56512/Tank_Stroller |
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olandrobo on Nov 16 '09
Btw, I think the title is superb. Try putting it in with the style of his blue lines. :)
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elliemaybe on Nov 16 '09
Definitely like him looking at the viewer better.
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Fonus on Nov 16 '09
This is absolutely great.
Have you experimented with having him looking to the right, at the spot where the other cookie was? Got any ideas for my stuff? Banana-skateboard accident |
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iamalaayy on Nov 16 '09
love the red and flowers, this looks great! sub it now :D
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It's funny because it plays into sexist stereotypes of women!
Art-wise, it's improved a lot. Concept-wise, I'd submit it with a title that plays to his relief that he wasn't eaten, not that she was. "That was a close one!" or something like that. |
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 16 '09
Hey guys, thanks for all the feedback. I guess I've got a few more things to think about here. Hopefully it'll be done soon and I can submit.
I like the title, but I also like mismonaut's suggestion to change it to "That was a close one!" It does seem to make more sense. Fonus, I may try having him look where the other cookie was...I hadn't thought about that. As far as the plate shadow goes, I was using the same color as the cookie's eyes and mouth. Not exactly the color of a shadow on a dark red shirt, but I don't remember how many colors I can use on Threadless and I may be at the limit. I'll have to check I guess. |
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simcha123456 on Nov 16 '09
cute i like this !!!!!!!!! :) chk mine :)
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 16 '09
OK, I tried it using the pink for the flower border, to see if it would make it less prominent. Personally, I like the red flowers better.
And I tried moving the eyes so they're looking over where the girl cookie was....but then he almost looks afraid of the severed arm or something. I don't know. Any thoughts? Maybe I'll just submit the bottom version....but I still don't mind the eyes looking up to the left, as in the previous version. Aaarrggh, I'm so horrible at making decisions! Oh, and another decision....mismonaut suggested changing the title to "That Was a Close One!" or something like that. Makes more sense, but the original title seems funny to me. Thoughts on that? |
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ryangoestoschool on Nov 16 '09
I say submit version 7.
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iamalaayy on Nov 16 '09
ya def go with 7, i love how this turned out.. and i will def give it a 5! good luck :D
critique me? :D |
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brainrust on Nov 16 '09
That's quite a list of revisions! I like the maroon background, and the plate makes the whole design more immediately eye-catching. What about dark blue for the flower pattern? A cool colour might add variety as well as making the flowers recede a bit visually. "She Talked Too Much Anyway" adds an extra layer of humour, but "That Was a Close One" matches his expression better. If his expression was more ambiguous I'd go with the first title. I guess find the funniest expression to look at and choose a matching title after.
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Michaelhlee on Nov 17 '09
Very funny. I'd like to see it on a tee since there hasn't been an example since version 2.
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guimo on Nov 17 '09
I think yer lookin good bud..
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Pyros82 on Nov 17 '09
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surreal_blue on Nov 17 '09
It looks good. The burgundy floral pattern I think is the better of the two versions. However, I have one minor thing to add... the bow looks a little flat (even for an icing bow). Maybe you could add a dropped shadow on it? Other than that, it's an adorable idea and it has a good chance. Talk about timing you smart person you! Best of luck!
http://www.threadless.com/critique/56516/LifeandDeath |
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eponymon on Nov 17 '09
Cool design! Probably the pink hair-band could be a bit more plastic and glossy...?
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 17 '09
Thanks for all the feedback, guys!
Yeah...good idea on the drop shadow for the bow, surreal blue...thanks. I thought it needed something. Pyros82, I tried taking out the pupils a few days ago....I thought it looked funny, but maybe that was only because I'm so used to it the way it is. I'll try it again. Anybody have any thoughts on the direction his eyes are looking?...at the viewer, at the spot where she was, or up to the left (as seen in previous version). And I'll put it on a shirt next time too. Title: "she talked too much anyway..." or "that was a close one!" ??? |
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ryangoestoschool on Nov 17 '09
that was a close one!
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surreal_blue on Nov 17 '09
-Wow I didn't notice the difference in the eyes until you pointed them out. It's interesting that you can change such a small detail and the mood of the work shifts entirely. I think the one on the bottom says, "that was close" letting the audience in on the gag. While the one atop makes it look like he is longing for his nabbed cookie wife. On a side note: Thank you for saying your piece to MagPie.
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Algi on Nov 17 '09
Ha. Like it. A lot. Yeah, I want to see a version without the white highlights on the pupils. Ooh, and my title suggestion is, "Well, That's How The Cookie Crumbles!"
Help me out? |
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punkybruiser on Nov 17 '09
red flowers for sure!
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DaRobinBot on Nov 17 '09
Ohhh. I thought the joke here was the gingerbread man ate the gingerbread lady. Him just being glad that he didn't get eaten isn't that funny.
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 17 '09
This idea originated as a play on the word "gladiator"....glad he ate her. As in the gingerbread boy is glad the cookie consumer ate the girl instead of the him.
I guess "glad he ate her" could also be interpreted in a cookie-cannibalistic sort of way, but I never thought about it like that until I got some comments implying that people thought that was what was going on. If this gets rejected, I might as well try to re-work it that direction. |
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MechaMew2 on Nov 18 '09
Haha, "gladiator." Likewise, I think version 7 is the way to go. It's a really clever concept, and I like the gingerbread cookie design.
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MegsBanana on Nov 18 '09
Well done! Submit!
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*mouse* on Nov 18 '09
yeah I would go with 7 for sure!
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Alteredair on Nov 18 '09
love it great conceipt also maby I can eat mine out of the house
give mine a look if you would any help would be app.. how do you do the link thing at the bottem alteredair ??? |
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TimmyBlaze on Nov 18 '09
I like the scared eye placement personally, but it's such a minor detail I wouldn't worry about it. Red border for sure and otherwise this it really good!
Crit mine! |
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elizabethsoandso on Nov 18 '09
red plate!
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 18 '09
I added some depth to the bow.
I got rid of the white spots in the eyes. Went with the eyes looking at the viewer, but can be easily changed to either of the other two eye directions (see versions 7 and 8.) I put it on a shirt to show placement. I don't see a way to change the title on here. I guess I'd have to do that when I submit? Any more thoughts? Is it ready? |
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 18 '09
My husband just walked in and said I did the wrong eyes. He likes the ones looking up and to the left better---as seen in version 7 (top one.)
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scmonteagudo on Nov 18 '09
Great illustration...and I agree the version 7 with the eyes looking to his right is better.
Please critique mine also... Heart of Gold |
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Fonus on Nov 18 '09
The eyes without pupils are a great improvement in this version. Despite where he is looking.
Take a look at this if you have a moment to spare. |
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Kit Kit on Nov 18 '09
Beaut! Submit!
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iamalaayy on Nov 18 '09
yes perfect! sub this now!
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 18 '09
OK, the only difference between this one and the previous one is the direction his eyes are looking. My husband says this one is the obvious choice. But that's his opinion and, while I definitely respect his opinion, I think the others are good too. What do you guys think?
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Algi on Nov 18 '09
I vote for this one as well. I really like your presentation. I think this'll score well! Submit it!
Help me out? |
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elliemaybe on Nov 19 '09
The presentation is great; you're ready. Sub it!
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brainrust on Nov 19 '09
Yep, the eyes are better on this one. Little things can make such a big difference!
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 19 '09
OK, gonna submit. But I can't push it through from here because I need to change the title. I'll have to submit from scratch.
I'm working on a little write-up for it. What do you think of this? Good? Or just lame. Here it is: He knew it was "that time of year". He had heard about what was coming for them. He hoped it would not take him. Then he saw it....a giant hand...somehow attached to that drooling mouth behind it. He began to sweat. His heart was pounding so hard he thought it might pop one of his blue buttons. He wanted to run, to scream out, but it was no use. His legs would not move....like they were baked that way. It felt like hours, but it was only seconds, and then it was over. He was safe. She was gone....she was gone!! Oh well, she talked too much anyway. |
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 19 '09
Oh, and changing the title to "That Was A Close One!"
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 20 '09
Ok, I submitted it. Now I just have to wait and hope they accept it.
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Algi on Nov 20 '09
Yay! I can't see threadless not accepting this! The current version is ver well done! You should be proud! Congrats!
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mamaGiraffe on Nov 20 '09
Thanks Algi, and thanks to everyone else too! You've all been so helpful and supportive. I really appreciate it! :)
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